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KRudd tells Labour to expect poll hit

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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 28 Jun 2009 15:34 GMT
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html

PRIME Minister KRudd expects Labour will take a hit in the opinion polls because
of the OzCar affair.

Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of the mud thrown
by the coalition during the past week would stick - even though the email at the
centre of its claims was a fake.

"'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things easier for
this guy to get access to a government finance program ... and he based it all
on this email which was a complete forgery,'' he said.

"You know what happens when people throw mud, some of it sticks.

"I'm sure in the opinion polls we will see some damage.''

The coalition had accused Mr Rudd of trying to use his influence to help
Queensland car dealer John Grant, who gave the prime minister a ute in 2007.

Police have confirmed the email crucial to the coalition's claims is a fake.

On Sunday night, Mr Rudd made his second appearance on the popular variety
program - his first as prime minister.

His first appearance was during the federal election campaign in 2007.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

^Tems^ - 28 Jun 2009 15:54 GMT
> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
>
> PRIME Minister KRudd expects Labour will take a hit in the opinion polls
> because of the OzCar affair.
>
> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained

Wow news.com.au is now reporting 'news' from a program where the host
called the Prime Minister of the country 'dude'

Look out Malcolm 'Never will be PM' Turnbull, news.com.au may soon start
reporting that you didn't flash your lights with Rove said to.
Neil Gerace - 28 Jun 2009 15:58 GMT
> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
> and he based it all on this email which was a complete forgery,'' he said.

If Swan gave the man special treatment by seeing him in his office, and Rudd didn't prevent this, then doesn't that mean
Rudd is negligent - even if the email was a fake - by failing to oversee Swan properly?
DavidW - 29 Jun 2009 01:20 GMT
>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> negligent - even if the email was a fake - by failing to oversee Swan
> properly?

You obviously have not been following this story. It has never been stated or
alleged that Swan met Grant in his office.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 29 Jun 2009 01:59 GMT
>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> You obviously have not been following this story. It has never been stated or
> alleged that Swan met Grant in his office.

Tanner admitted yesterday that Swann lied to parliament over OzCar.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

Sir Kevin Rudd - 29 Jun 2009 03:08 GMT
>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Tanner admitted yesterday that Swann lied to parliament over OzCar.

No one gives a sh.t what you think fuckwit.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25705582-601,00.html

MALCOLM Turnbull's backers say he will recover from today's crushing
Newspoll results.
Malcolm Turnbull's position as Opposition Leader is in jeopardy after his
approval rating crashed.

The Liberal leader's bungled OzCar attack has lead to the biggest drop in
support in Newspoll's 25-year history, with his satisfaction rating crashing
from 44 to 25 per cent in just a fortnight.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 29 Jun 2009 03:16 GMT
>>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> No one gives a sh.t what I think because I am a fuckwit.

I corrected your typos, FlangesBum. No need to thank me for this free service.

BTW, how are your BHP shares doing? LOL!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

Sir Kevin Rudd - 29 Jun 2009 03:23 GMT
>>>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I corrected your typos, FlangesBum. No need to thank me for this free
> service.

Now now, don't be snipping news of importance. Make sure you read it this
time fuckhead.

Remember what I said about smears putting people off the Lib Party? Perhaps
they should start writing.... uno... POLICIES?

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25705582-601,00.html

MALCOLM Turnbull's backers say he will recover from today's crushing
Newspoll results.
Malcolm Turnbull's position as Opposition Leader is in jeopardy after his
approval rating crashed.

The Liberal leader's bungled OzCar attack has lead to the biggest drop in
support in Newspoll's 25-year history, with his satisfaction rating crashing
from 44 to 25 per cent in just a fortnight.
DavidW - 29 Jun 2009 03:26 GMT
>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Tanner admitted yesterday that Swann lied to parliament over OzCar.

Off topic.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 29 Jun 2009 03:29 GMT
>>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Off topic.

Yes, lying is always off topic.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

Sir Kevin Rudd - 29 Jun 2009 14:24 GMT
>>>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Yes, lying is always off topic.

So why did you lie then if you knew it was off topic?
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 29 Jun 2009 14:33 GMT
>>>>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> So why did you lie then if you knew it was off topic?

What's the matter, FlangesBum? Can't handle Tanner telling the truth about
Swann's lying?

P.S. How are your BHP shares doing? LOL!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

Denz - 29 Jun 2009 08:36 GMT
>>>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>>>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Tanner admitted yesterday that Swann lied to parliament over OzCar.

Complete rubbish. Tanner did no such thing.
The only thing I saw Tanner say was that Turnbull would have been better off
focussing on Swann. To say this is any kind of admission of a lie is absurd.
Dyna Soar - 29 Jun 2009 09:14 GMT
>>> You obviously have not been following this story. It has never been
>>> stated or alleged that Swan met Grant in his office.

>> Tanner admitted yesterday that Swann lied to parliament over OzCar.

> Complete rubbish. Tanner did no such thing.
> The only thing I saw Tanner say was that Turnbull would have been
> better off focussing on Swann. To say this is any kind of admission
> of a lie is absurd.

The liar here, as usual, is that cowardly poster and master of bullshit "Dr.
Sir John Howard".  If he had a nose like Pinocchio's, it would almost reach
right across the country by now.

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fasgnadh - 29 Jun 2009 01:21 GMT
>> "'(They basically said) I'd been corrupt, I'd tried to make things
>> easier for this guy to get access to a government finance program ...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Rudd didn't prevent this, then doesn't that mean Rudd is negligent -
> even if the email was a fake - by failing to oversee Swan properly?

You just keep WISHFUL THINKING, the people see this quite differently;

"Utegate savages Malcolm Turnbull's credibility, poll shows"
    - The Courier-Mail June 29, 2009 12:00am

"THE Utegate affair has run over Malcolm Turnbull, with more
than 50 per cent of voters accusing the Opposition Leader of
 being dishonest or deceitful in his handling of the forged
email scandal.

The latest Galaxy Poll, conducted for The Courier-Mail at
the weekend, finds Mr Turnbull's credibility is in tatters.

And senior Liberals believe there could be moves within
the party to remove him as Opposition Leader within days
or weeks, The Australian reports.

Only 7 per cent of Australians believe the embattled Liberal
leader has been open and honest and part of the backlash has
been from Coalition supporters.

While 34 per cent of all Australians, and 29 per cent of
Coalition supporters, believe he has been somewhat deceitful,
17 per cent of all voters, and 10 per cent of Liberal/National
supporters, go further and say he has been dishonest.

    He's f.cked!  He can't recover from widespread assessment of
    his dishonesty and lack of judgement.

    I predicted the outcome of the next election before the polls;

# From: fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
# Subject: "Malcolm Turnbull in a china shop" - Laurie Oakes
#          explains the damage to Turnbull's credibility
# Message-ID: <TSz1m.1289$ze1.463@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:41:07 GMT
#
#
# Malcolm Turnbull in a china shop
#     -  Laurie Oakes, Herald Sun June 27, 2009 12:00am
#
# FROM the moment the news broke last Monday that the now
# famous forged email had been found on the Treasury official's
# home computer, Malcolm Turnbull and those around him knew a
# whole lot of embarrassing stuff would come out."
....
#     Rudd has them on the run....
...
#    Rudd has navigated through the GFC, putting Australia in a far
#    better position that the rest of the world, brought Highrate
#    Howard's interest rates DOWN, limited the impact of the GFC on
#    unemployment, and has the lead on the US in policy areas which
#    could position us to move forward on alternative energy and
#    the associated jobs and export markets from that technology..
#
#     and all the tories have is sh.t AND MUD ALL OVER THEMSELVES
#
#     FROM DOING DONUTS IN THEIR CLAPPED OUT UTE!!!
#
#     tories... always spinning and going nowhere, just
#     round in circles!
#
...
#    Rudd has navigated through the GFC, putting Australia in a far
#    better position that the rest of the world, brought Highrate
#    Howard's interest rates DOWN, limited the impact of the GFC on
#    unemployment, and has the lead on the US in policy areas which
#    could position us to move forward on alternative energy and
#    the associated jobs and export markets from that technology..
#
#     and all the tories have is sh.t AND MUD ALL OVER THEMSELVES
#
#     FROM DOING DONUTS IN THEIR CLAPPED OUT UTE!!!
#
#     tories... always spinning and going nowhere, just
#     round in circles!
#
# The problem for the liberals is
#
#  "Apart from anything else, with Peter Costello
#   out of the picture, there is no one else.
#
# The next lot of Liberal leadership hopefuls are nowhere
# near ready."
#
#     That must make them UNELECTABLE!  Anything could happen
#     with a Turnbull in the China Shop, and as the Liberals
#     have no alternative if he has a heart attack or chokes
#     on his own bullshit, they are NOT an alternative government!
###################################################################
#     I'm going early and calling the next election for the ALP.  #
###################################################################
#    I know this is exceptionally gutsy, to make a prediction
#    so far out is unprecedented. As they say, a WEEK in politics
#    is a long time, but the tories simply have not reformed
#    and jettisoned the Howard-era concepts and deadwood, and
#    I have a history of being right.    ;-)

---------

Dobby offering Malcolm Turnbull the WitchHunt Ring of Power;

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/take5/slideshow/realornot/img_11.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200906/r388434_1814314.jpg

   [with acknowledgement to the Insiders for running yet another
    piece of hilarious political satire from 'sources unknown' ;-)

---------

    We always thought that the Liberal's Deep Throat was this
    cocksucker;

    http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/deep-throat.htm
----------
Marty - 28 Jun 2009 17:37 GMT
> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
>
> PRIME Minister KRudd expects Labour will take a hit in the opinion polls
> because of the OzCar affair.

Don't you have anything important to do with your remaining time on this
planet?

The bottom line is that it doesn't matter if they are Liberal, Labor,
Greens or whatever, they are all a bunch of self serving c.nts.
Doug Jewell - 28 Jun 2009 22:48 GMT
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> The bottom line is that it doesn't matter if they are Liberal, Labor,
> Greens or whatever, they are all a bunch of self serving c.nts.
The difference is Liberal are self serving c.nts who know
how to manage an economy. Labor are self serving c.nts who
wreck the economy. I'll take the former please.

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Don't blame me - I didn't vote for Kevin Rudd or Anna Bligh!

Jeßus - 28 Jun 2009 23:39 GMT
In article <4a47e519$0$2574$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you says...

> >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> how to manage an economy. Labor are self serving c.nts who
> wreck the economy. I'll take the former please.

So you're deluded enough to think that /any/ Australian govt can have
any tangible influence over our economy?

Why do 'you lot' (one-eyed Labor/liberal troglodytes) willfully delude
yourselves this way? I just don't get it. If you want to barrack for a
team or side, watch the footy, or whatever.
Horry - 29 Jun 2009 07:21 GMT
> In article <4a47e519$0$2574$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> 01.iinet.net.au>, ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you says...
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> So you're deluded enough to think that /any/ Australian govt can have
> any tangible influence over our economy?

Are you deluded enough to think that governments /can't/ tangibly
influence the Australian economy?

Just about everything they do affects the economy.
Ron - 28 Jun 2009 23:49 GMT
>>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> how to manage an economy. Labor are self serving c.nts who
> wreck the economy. I'll take the former please.

Exactly!
Dyna Soar - 29 Jun 2009 00:10 GMT
> Doug Jewell <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in

>> The difference is Liberal are self serving c.nts who know
>> how to manage an economy. Labor are self serving c.nts who
>> wreck the economy. I'll take the former please.

> Exactly!

The majority disagree...
http://www.smh.com.au/national/turnbull-hammered-by-voters-20090628-d1at.html

MALCOLM TURNBULL'S darkest hour as Opposition Leader is upon him with a new
poll showing his standing has been dealt a hammer blow by the OzCar affair.

The latest Herald/Nielsen poll also shows that despite Peter Costello
announcing he is quitting politics, the former treasurer remains by far the
most preferred Liberal leader, well ahead of Mr Turnbull and Joe Hockey, who
are in a statistical dead heat for second place.

The nationwide poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to
Saturday. This was in the wake of the OzCar affair, in which Opposition
attempts to accuse Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan of doing favours for a car
dealer friend backfired when an email linking Mr Rudd to the affair proved
to be a fake.

The monthly poll shows Mr Turnbull's personal approval rating slumped 11
percentage points to 32 per cent, while his disapproval rating soared 13
points to 60 per cent.

"Mr Turnbull now has an approval rating similar to that of Brendan Nelson on
his way out and a disapproval rating similar to that of Simon Crean on the
way out," said the Nielsen pollster John Stirton.

Support for the Coalition also nosedived. Labor led on a two-party preferred
basis by 58 per cent to 42 per cent, up 5 points in a month.

The Coalition's primary vote slumped six points, to 37 per cent, while
Labor's edged up 2 points, to 46 per cent.

More than half the voters surveyed - 53 per cent - had a less favourable
opinion of Mr Turnbull after the OzCar episode.

The affair was preceded by Peter Costello's announcement he was leaving
politics, thus ruling himself out as a leadership contender. Despite this,
37 per cent of voters still prefer him to lead the Liberal Party, followed
by 21 per cent for Mr Hockey, the shadow treasurer, and 18 per cent for Mr
Turnbull. The resurgent Tony Abbott is fourth at 10 per cent.

Among Coalition voters, 44 per cent prefer Mr Costello, compared with 23 per
cent each for Mr Hockey and Mr Turnbull and 7 per cent for Mr Abbott.

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Doug Jewell - 29 Jun 2009 09:12 GMT
> The nationwide poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to
And 1400 voters is supposed to be a "nationwide" indicator??
That's 200 from each state.
Less than 10 per electorate.
Statistically it is irrelevant.
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Dyna Soar - 29 Jun 2009 09:26 GMT
>> The nationwide poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to

> And 1400 voters is supposed to be a "nationwide" indicator??

You don't know too much about opinion polling and statistical surveying, do
you?

> That's 200 from each state.
> Less than 10 per electorate.
> Statistically it is irrelevant.

Strange how similar polls over the past few days by different pollsters have
come up with similar results.

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Ron - 29 Jun 2009 10:15 GMT
Doug Jewell <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in news:4a487778$0$2625
$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

>> The nationwide poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to
> And 1400 voters is supposed to be a "nationwide" indicator??
> That's 200 from each state.
> Less than 10 per electorate.
> Statistically it is irrelevant.

Just killfile the slug, he is as thick as sh.t and just hangs around hoping
to bait Peter Lucas.
Oxygen thief comes to mind!
Atheist Chaplain - 29 Jun 2009 10:32 GMT
> Doug Jewell <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in news:4a487778$0$2625
> $5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> to bait Peter Lucas.
> Oxygen thief comes to mind!

yep that's the way Ron, if you don't like the news, shoot the messenger :-)

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Ron - 29 Jun 2009 21:46 GMT
>> Doug Jewell <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in
>> news:4a487778$0$2625 $5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> yep that's the way Ron, if you don't like the news, shoot the
> messenger :-)

Actually, you and that fool are peas in a pod.
Atheist Chaplain - 29 Jun 2009 23:29 GMT
>>> Doug Jewell <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in
>>> news:4a487778$0$2625 $5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Actually, you and that fool are peas in a pod.

if by that you mean we will now make it our life's work to point out every
time you say something stupid (A full time job I might ad) then yes :-)

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Ron - 30 Jun 2009 00:32 GMT
>>>> Doug Jewell <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in
>>>> news:4a487778$0$2625 $5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> yes :-)

I'm glad you agree...
Atheist Chaplain - 30 Jun 2009 04:50 GMT
>>>>> Doug Jewell <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in
>>>>> news:4a487778$0$2625 $5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> I'm glad you agree...

your really not that bright are you Ron, I'm sure in your mind that was
cutting wit, but the rest of us are shaking out heads in wonder at how
someone with the IQ of a turnip can keep living. Do you hold your breath
before you start to type because its obvious to many here that you would
have trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time.

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Dyna Soar - 29 Jun 2009 10:35 GMT
> Doug Jewell  wrote :

>>> The nationwide poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to
>> And 1400 voters is supposed to be a "nationwide" indicator??
>> That's 200 from each state.
>> Less than 10 per electorate.
>> Statistically it is irrelevant.

> Just killfile the slug, he is as thick as sh.t and just hangs around
> hoping to bait Peter Lucas.

Oh?  I don't remember making a post to or about Peter Lucas in around four
years or so, except for one time when I defended Ruth from some vicious
slagging by some of Lucas's "enemies".  Lucas, to his credit, actually
thanked me for that.
You, on the other hand, I'll continue to bait and point out your many
failings.

> Oxygen thief comes to mind!

Cowardly, bigoted, and racial POS comes to mind when I think of you,
McGrice.

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Don H - 28 Jun 2009 23:09 GMT
> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> His first appearance was during the federal election campaign in 2007.

# Well, maybe not.
  Today's Press says otherwise, and it is Turnbull and the Coalition which
has slumped.
  "Polling smashes Turnbull", says today's "Australian" - "Senior Liberals
believe there could be moves to remove Malcolm Turnbull as Leader within
days or weeks".
fasgnadh - 29 Jun 2009 01:09 GMT
> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of the mud
> thrown by the coalition during the past week would stick - even though
> the email at the centre of its claims was a fake.

That was basically just Rudd taking one more opportunity to
remind the listening public about what LYING BASTARDS Malcolm
Turdball and Eric Aids'n'Abetz criminal activity, are!   B^D

He needn't have worried, the voters have sussed that out for themselves!

"Turnbull takes big hit in new polls"
   - AAP June 29, 2009 - 8:39AM

"Three new polls show the OzCar scandal has slashed support for
Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull and the coalition.

The latest Newspoll, conducted for The Australian, shows Mr Turnbull has
suffered the biggest drop in voter support in the poll's 25-year
history, with voter satisfaction crashing from 44 per cent to 25 per
cent since mid-June.

Some senior Liberal Party members have told The Australian that if
parliament had been sitting this week there would have been moves to
replace Mr Turnbull with coalition Treasury Spokesman Joe Hockey.

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA  I told you so!   B^D

# From: fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
# Subject: "Malcolm Turnbull in a china shop" - Laurie Oakes
#          explains the damage to Turnbull's credibility
# Message-ID: <TSz1m.1289$ze1.463@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:41:07 GMT
#
#
# Malcolm Turnbull in a china shop
#     -  Laurie Oakes, Herald Sun June 27, 2009 12:00am
#
# FROM the moment the news broke last Monday that the now
# famous forged email had been found on the Treasury official's
# home computer, Malcolm Turnbull and those around him knew a
# whole lot of embarrassing stuff would come out."
#
#      And there is clearly still a cloud hanging over Turnbull
#      and Abetz's meeting with Dobby in the days before the Senate
#      Inquiry played out the oppositions charade, where Abetz
#      'questioned' Dobby and Dobby revealed what he had already told
#      the tories in secret, and waved around the Stinkfish Email of
#      tory lies and slander.
....
#        The question for Turnbull and the Lieberals is simple:
#
#        What have they got to HIDE!???
#
...
# This, too, would have emerged eventually as a result of police
# questioning of Grech.
#
#       A police inquiry the tories initially promised FULL Co-OPERATION
#       with, and then backflipped ..  WHAT ARE THEY HIDING????   B^[
#
#    Tuesday night on Lateline Joe Hackney was assuring us,
#    as Malcolm had done during the day, that the Opposition
#    Leader would be "Co-Operating FULLY" with the Police Inquiry
#    into the forged email he and Abetz had been touting
#    round the place.
#
#
#    Now we find that was another tory lie, a NON-CORE promise,
#    and they will NOT be co-operating fully with THE POLICE!!! 8^o
#
#    "Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull will not fully co-operate
#    with police investigations into controversial public service
#    leaks." - The Age 25/6/2009
#
#
#      We know Dobby was a tory tool, what are they hiding about the
#      secret relationship with Turnbull and Abetz?
#
#   The six week break from the harsh glare of Parliament will not
#     remove the stain on Malcolm Merchantbankers suit, it will just
#     fester and putrefy...
#
# "The key question is where the affair goes from here. Voters may
# not be as fascinated as politicians and journalists are by the
# ins and outs of fake emails and Senate committee hearings and
# police investigations.
#
# They are more likely to see competence as the issue. And the
# take-out almost certainly will be that Turnbull was incompetent."
#
#     And that is fatal for Turnbull's leadership, even his own
#     Party members have been questioning and criticising his
#     judgement;
#
http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/06/24/mb_cartoon_2506_gallery__5
40x400.jpg

#
#
# "Many in his own party are saying it quite openly. He overreached.
# His driving ambition got the better of him."
#
#     Impetuous, ill-judged, over-the-top, lacking integrity, brittle,
#     refusing to take responsibility and the Hallmark of tories: UNABLE
#     To SAY SORRY!!!
#
# "When he learned of the alleged email he got so excited that he
# failed to act with the due diligence a sensible political leader
# would have realised was necessary."
#
#     We can't have a political aspirant who wets himself at the chance
#     to blacken the reputation of Australia's leadership based on
#     LIES!!!
#
#     We can't have a man who might get an email saying Indonesia has
#     invaded W.A. and we must retaliate by bombing Jakarta, WITHOUT
#     CHECKING THE FACTS!!
#
#   But the government has been progressing their agenda,
#     it is the opposition who can't come up with a policy
#     on Climate change and has now BACK-FLIPPED on the
#     Alco-pops tax..  we will see more tory cave-ins as the
#     Double Dissolution draws nearer.    B^)
#
#     Rudd has them on the run....
#
...
#    Rudd has navigated through the GFC, putting Australia in a far
#    better position that the rest of the world, brought Highrate
#    Howard's interest rates DOWN, limited the impact of the GFC on
#    unemployment, and has the lead on the US in policy areas which
#    could position us to move forward on alternative energy and
#    the associated jobs and export markets from that technology..
#
#     and all the tories have is sh.t AND MUD ALL OVER THEMSELVES
#
#     FROM DOING DONUTS IN THEIR CLAPPED OUT UTE!!!
#
#     tories... always spinning and going nowhere, just
#     round in circles!
#
# The problem for the liberals is
#
#  "Apart from anything else, with Peter Costello
#   out of the picture, there is no one else.
#
# The next lot of Liberal leadership hopefuls are nowhere
# near ready."
#
#     That must make them UNELECTABLE!  Anything could happen
#     with a Turnbull in the China Shop, and as the Liberals
#     have no alternative if he has a heart attack or chokes
#     on his own bullshit, they are NOT an alternative government!
###################################################################
#     I'm going early and calling the next election for the ALP.  #
###################################################################
#    I know this is exceptionally gutsy, to make a prediction
#    so far out is unprecedented. As they say, a WEEK in politics
#    is a long time, but the tories simply have not reformed
#    and jettisoned the Howard-era concepts and deadwood, and
#    I have a history of being right.    ;-)

Meanwhile, the latest Nielsen poll, published in Fairfax newspapers on
Monday, also shows a sharp decline in voter support for Mr Turnbull.

His approval rating sank from 43 per cent to 32 per cent, while Mr
Rudd's approval rating rose three points to 67 per cent.

And a Galaxy poll, published in News Ltd newspapers on Monday, found 51
per cent of people questioned believed that Mr Turnbull had been
dishonest or somewhat deceitful over the controversy.

However, 61 per cent of voters believed Mr Rudd had been open and honest
or, at worst, economical with the truth.

Mr Turnbull earlier this month called for Mr Rudd's resignation over
allegations he provided assistance for a Brisbane car dealer and Labor
donor to access the tax-funded OzCar scheme.

An email leaked to the media allegedly linking Mr Rudd to such actions
turned out to be a forgery.

Meanwhile, Liberal Tony Abbott says Mr Turnbull is not facing a
backbench revolt and his leadership is secure."

  So it is being talked about in the Lieberal Parety..   Of course..

  THEY HAVE NO ONE ELSE!    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA

Mr Abbott said the bad polls were to be expected following a tough week,
but the coalition was standing behind its leader.

"We had a very tough week last week and when you've had a tough week you
tend to get bad polls," he told ABC radio.

"But just as Malcolm didn't flinch last week it's important that the
party doesn't flinch this week.

"We have a good leader, he's going to lead us through to the next
election, and we've got to get behind him."

Mr Abbott dismissed speculation that opposition treasury spokesman Joe
Hockey was positioning himself for a tilt at the leadership.

"Anyone who saw any of the senior people in the party last week would
know that we were all doing our best to prosecute the case against
(Treasurer) Wayne Swan," he said.

People were only human, he said, suggesting there may be some rumblings
within the ranks, but "the fact is you can't respond to bad polls".

Labor threw everything but the kitchen sink at Mr Turnbull last week.

"The smear campaign that they waged has had an impact," he said, but
that didn't mean Mr Turnbull's leadership was mortally wounded.

The leader could rebuild his standing by doing what oppositions always
do - pointing out the government's flaws and weaknesses, Mr Abbott said.

ABC radio reports that Mr Turnbull is planning a broad reshuffle of his
frontbench to try to strengthen the coalition's stocks.

Mr Abbott laughed off questions about his own leadership ambitions.

He also played down his performance in parliament last week.

The senior Liberal was widely praised for his

work directing tactics in the absence of opposition manager of business
Christopher Pyne.

"I'm very conscious that I made a couple of mistakes in parliament last
week," Mr Abbott said.

"What I take out of last week is that I'm pretty rusty and need to go
back and read the standing orders."

© 2009 AAP

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Dobby offering Malcolm Turnbull the WitchHunt Ring of Power;

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/take5/slideshow/realornot/img_11.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200906/r388434_1814314.jpg

   [with acknowledgement to the Insiders for running yet another
    piece of hilarious political satire from 'sources unknown' ;-)

---------

    We always thought that the Liberal's Deep Throat was this
    cocksucker;

    http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/deep-throat.htm
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Ron - 29 Jun 2009 03:33 GMT
>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of the
>> mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would stick - even
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> He needn't have worried, the voters have sussed that out for
> themselves!

Rubbish!
Retard!
Atheist Chaplain - 29 Jun 2009 10:07 GMT
>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of the
>>> mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would stick - even
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Rubbish!
> Retard!

just because your a retard is no reason to expect that the rest of Australia
is, well except for your LIEberal friends :-)
Isn't it pleasant to see Turdballs popularity right down there with little
Johnny Howlers numbers before he lost his seat while Prime minister
(something that has only ever happened once before) :-)
And I noticed that as soon as Turdballs lies were exposed the LIEberals
immediately got behind the alcopop tax and removed the trigger for a double
dissolution of both houses of Parliament, why do you think that was, surely
it count be because they thought that they would lose even more seats if an
election was called................. nah it was just coincidence, surely :-)

The funny thing is I didn't vote for Kev but its nice to see the sac full of
sh.t that is the Australian LIEberal party finally getting it back in spades
:-)

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Ron - 29 Jun 2009 10:13 GMT
>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of the
>>>> mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would stick - even
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> back in spades
>:-)

I doubt you would have the brains to understand any party.
Anyone who thinks Ozone has some credibility is truly a fool!

I did at one stage think you have some form of intelligence, obviously I
was wrong.  You can't even spell Liberal, Turnbull or Howard.
I guess like most of your followers, education was not a priority :)
Atheist Chaplain - 29 Jun 2009 10:31 GMT
>>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of the
>>>>> mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would stick - even
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> was wrong.  You can't even spell Liberal, Turnbull or Howard.
> I guess like most of your followers, education was not a priority :)

And to expect you to understand sarcasm in my deliberate spelling of
Turdball, Howler and LIEberal would be stretching the bounds of reasonable
assumption on my part, after all your the retard that thinks Kev 747 has
anything to do with handing out Car dealerships. Are you sitting down Ron, I
have some bad news for you, Little Johnny Howler not only lost the last
election in a landslide but he also lost his seat, in related LIEberal land
fantasy news, Santa Clause is not real and my dog ate the Easter Bunny.

Oh and I will put my education and achievements up against yours any day
Ron, for a start I actually finished year 5 and beyond while I understand
that you failed kindergarten little lunch and still have trouble with
colours.

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Ron - 29 Jun 2009 21:46 GMT
>>>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of
>>>>>> the mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would stick
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> Oh and I will put my education and achievements up against yours any
> day Ron, for a start I actually finished year 5 and beyond

What a waste of taxpayers money, you obviously learn't nothing!
However, I'll give you full marks for ignorance and stupidity.
Atheist Chaplain - 29 Jun 2009 23:26 GMT
>>>>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of
>>>>>>> the mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would stick
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> What a waste of taxpayers money, you obviously learn't nothing!
> However, I'll give you full marks for ignorance and stupidity.

getting full marks from someone as ignorant and stupid as yourself is no
real achievement, after all a dog's fart has more awareness and intelligence
than you Ron.
Oh by the way, the Taxpayer didn't pay much for my education as I went to a
private school on an academic scholarship.
and why did you snip the part about your failing Kindergarten little lunch
Ron, cut a bit close to the bone there ??
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Ron - 30 Jun 2009 00:36 GMT
>>>>>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of
>>>>>>>> the mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> no real achievement, after all a dog's fart has more awareness and
> intelligence than you Ron.

I had no idea you knew me that well!

> Oh by the way, the Taxpayer didn't pay much for my education as I went
> to a private school on an academic scholarship.

Oh really.... ROTFLMAO :)  It sure shows... LOL :)
School of hard knocks was it?

> and why did you snip the part about your failing Kindergarten little
> lunch Ron, cut a bit close to the bone there ??

If you think so!
Kindergarden was not around before I went to school.
Do try and keep up!
We are not all (over educated... LOL ) young self centred pups like you..
Atheist Chaplain - 30 Jun 2009 04:47 GMT
>>>>>>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some of
>>>>>>>>> the mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
>
> I had no idea you knew me that well!

I'm glad to see you admit to being dumber than a dogs fart Ron, acceptance
of your shortcomings is the first step in getting help.

>> Oh by the way, the Taxpayer didn't pay much for my education as I went
>> to a private school on an academic scholarship.
>
> Oh really.... ROTFLMAO :)  It sure shows... LOL :)
> School of hard knocks was it?

No Kinross initially and then they amalgamated with Wolaroi and became
Kinross-Wolaroi.
And thanks for seeing that I am smart enough to be accepted on an Academic
scholarship, it does show, but then people who rode the short bus to school
are easily able to show you up :-0

>> and why did you snip the part about your failing Kindergarten little
>> lunch Ron, cut a bit close to the bone there ??
>
> If you think so!
> Kindergarden was not around before I went to school.

Sorry, I forgot your a fossil, so when are you going to die again, inquiring
minds want to know ?

> Do try and keep up!
> We are not all (over educated... LOL ) young self centred pups like you..

and in your case it appears that you had no education at all :-)
BTW I'm 48 so not so much a pup anymore and self centered would probably be
the last thing my friends would say about me.
Now are we finished here or are you going to put your stupidity on display
again so we can all laugh at you, because lets face it, your not very good
at this argument thing.

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Ron - 30 Jun 2009 06:14 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some
>>>>>>>>>> of the mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would
[quoted text clipped - 90 lines]
> and in your case it appears that you had no education at all :-)
> BTW I'm 48

Baby!
Atheist Chaplain - 30 Jun 2009 06:50 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>> Appearing on Network Ten's Rove, Mr Rudd explained that some
>>>>>>>>>>> of the mud thrown by the coalition during the past week would
[quoted text clipped - 92 lines]
>
> Baby!

It's all relative Ron :-)

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> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
>
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>
> His first appearance was during the federal election campaign in 2007.

Well turnshit is far from being an angel, and hockey..well he's just
morally corrupt but that's not illegal.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 28 Jul 2009 14:48 GMT
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25704674-29277,00.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Well turnshit is far from being an angel, and hockey..well he's just
> morally corrupt but that's not illegal.

Morally corrupt, eh? Unlike Gareth Evans, for example? Or that cocksucker Collins?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE f.ck UP YOU DUMB c.nt!"
 - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

son of a bitch - 28 Jul 2009 16:19 GMT
The only way the Lie-berals way can win is if they dig up Menzies stick
his head in Jar and stick it on a Podium.

There isn't anyone in the Party that can lead a Horse to Water let alone
lead a Government.
atec 7 7 - 28 Jul 2009 23:11 GMT
> The only way the Lie-berals way can win is if they dig up Menzies stick
> his head in Jar and stick it on a Podium.
>
> There isn't anyone in the Party that can lead a Horse to Water let alone
> lead a Government.
Damn you really are clueless...
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 29 Jul 2009 04:45 GMT
>> The only way the Lie-berals way can win is if they dig up Menzies stick
>> his head in Jar and stick it on a Podium.
>>
>> There isn't anyone in the Party that can lead a Horse to Water let alone
>> lead a Government.
> Damn you really are clueless...

He wouldn't be a son of a bitch if he had a clue.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE f.ck UP YOU DUMB c.nt!"
 - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

Stephen Oakes - 29 Jul 2009 09:57 GMT
>> There isn't anyone in the Party that can lead a Horse to Water let alone
>> lead a Government.
> Damn you really are clueless...

...but right, in this case.

...then again we have seen from the past that if the government keeps
being completely shithouse (as it is in this case) a completely useless
moronic no-hoper can become PM (as in John Howard's case).

It won't happen this election, but it will happen.

- soakes
Mr.T - 29 Jul 2009 13:39 GMT
> ...then again we have seen from the past that if the government keeps
> being completely shithouse (as it is in this case) a completely useless
> moronic no-hoper can become PM (as in John Howard's case).
>
> It won't happen this election, but it will happen.

It happens EVERY election.

MrT.
Stephen Oakes - 29 Jul 2009 13:39 GMT
>> ...then again we have seen from the past that if the government keeps
>> being completely shithouse (as it is in this case) a completely useless
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> It happens EVERY election.

I see your point, but I would argue that even KRudd is an order of
magnitude better than John Howard or anyone currently in line to lead
the Liberal Party.

- soakes
Mr.T - 29 Jul 2009 14:20 GMT
> >> ...then again we have seen from the past that if the government keeps
> >> being completely shithouse (as it is in this case) a completely useless
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> magnitude better than John Howard or anyone currently in line to lead
> the Liberal Party.

Possibly, but *only* because that's not very difficult!

MrT.
Dan----.- - 30 Jul 2009 00:52 GMT
Only a fool that actually trust a politician(s) they are all BS artists!

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Stephen Oakes - 30 Jul 2009 11:26 GMT
> Only a fool that actually trust a politician(s) they are all BS artists!

Nice use of English there.

I think we agreed that no-one trusts politicians, but some politicians
are at least more intelligent than others!

- soakes
atec 7 7 - 29 Jul 2009 19:58 GMT
>>> ...then again we have seen from the past that if the government keeps
>>> being completely shithouse (as it is in this case) a completely useless
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>
> - soakes
better what ?
 fsking worthless ?
 agreed
Stephen Oakes - 30 Jul 2009 11:29 GMT
> better what ?
>  fsking worthless ?
>  agreed

Another delightful use of English.

- soakes
Scotty - 30 Jul 2009 21:57 GMT
: > better what ?
: >  fsking worthless ?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
:
: - soakes

Your new here huh?
Stephen Oakes - 31 Jul 2009 11:56 GMT
> Your new here huh?

My what?

Oh.  I see what you mean.

Yeah, if you call 20-odd years "new".

- soakes
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF - 29 Jul 2009 05:33 GMT
> The only way the Lie-berals way can win is if they dig up Menzies stick
> his head in Jar and stick it on a Podium.
>
> There isn't anyone in the Party that can lead a Horse to Water let alone
> lead a Government.

In your dreams.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
 - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
 - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
 - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
 - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
 - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
 - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
 - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE f.ck UP YOU DUMB c.nt!"
 - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

son of a bitch - 29 Jul 2009 05:43 GMT
>> The only way the Lie-berals way can win is if they dig up Menzies stick
>> his head in Jar and stick it on a Podium.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> In your dreams.

Really, which one can lead a Horse to Water
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times - 27 Jul 2009 15:19 GMT
On Jul 27, 11:41 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:

*> Thank GOD Leo can help
*>
*> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AVpOXG2fYkS8ZGNnazl0N3BfNjZnMm5wbmR...
*>
*> theoldman
*> ========

Dear Mr Kanga,

So it you, mate,  that Theoldman, walking along with Leonardo. Wow,
what 's happening to such bright & open mind ? ... at the time when I,
going on 70, still climb up my trees everyday by roping for fitness,
and run of course  along the Atlantic  sea cliffs overlooking the Isle
of Ré on the West ... ( ran over 2 hours yesterday morning starting at
6 am and returning home at 8 am )
When are you going to put yourself into that "Turcaud Bath"  for the
sake of your health ...remember we are going to have that cuppa tea
one day in the bush ...so look after yourself !

ARE YOU HOOKED ON THAT DIZEAZZEZZZ INDUSTRY & THE FRAUDULENT
DIAGNOSTICS THOSE BED SIDE MANNERED QUACKS ARE SPREADING !

Soon for the sake of you, mate, I am going to give away an immediate
parade to Anthrax infection,  and in your Honour I will call it the
MALCOLM FABIAN NATURAL PARADE TO ANTHRAX  ... and I want you to try it
so easy it is to implement.
I will write it soon,  as a service to Humanity in remembrance of one
of the finest Australia Archeological Pioneer Of All Times : Mr
Malcolm Fabian !!!  The discoverer of the Phoenicians' sources of Tin
& Murex snails

Look after yourself, Brother, and don't forget, never touch that tap
water sh.t they feed you for drinking & cooking, those ignorant
Antipodean criminals

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
kangarooistan - 27 Jul 2009 17:58 GMT
On Jul 27, 11:15 pm, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:
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> On Jul 27, 11:41 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *> Thank GOD Leo can help
> *>
publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_66g2npndcb
> *>
> *> theoldman
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> So it you, mate,  that Theoldman, walking along with Leonardo. Wow,

YEP mate

That is " theoldman Kanga " the   ONLY ever real picture on line EVER
mate , Emily took it at the " Port Pirie Cameleers reunion " a few
months ago
publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_66g2npndcb

http://www.about-australia.com.cn/events/south-australia/flinders-ranges-outback
/events/exhibition-show/afghan-cameleers-and-pioneers-cultural-festival/


http://www.about-australia.com.cn/events/south-australia/flinders-ranges-outback
/events/exhibition-show/afghan-cameleers-and-pioneers-cultural-festival/


> what 's happening to such bright & open mind ? ... at the time when I,
> going on 70, still climb up my trees everyday by roping for fitness,
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> sake of your health ...remember we are going to have that cuppa tea
> one day in the bush ...so look after yourself !

Being old and " crippled "is NOT a disease Sir Jpt

Thats WHY GOD made sons mate

They can do the hard work now and theoldman can sit and watch and
teach

Its whats between the ears that matters ,the rest of the body is only
designed to carry the grey matter around

GOD made sons to do the hard work so " oldmen" can sit and watch and
examine more carefully the things that take time to " unpack "

> ARE YOU HOOKED ON THAT DIZEAZZEZZZ INDUSTRY & THE FRAUDULENT
> DIAGNOSTICS THOSE BED SIDE MANNERED QUACKS ARE SPREADING !
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> MALCOLM FABIAN NATURAL PARADE TO ANTHRAX  ... and I want you to try it
> so easy it is to implement.

Dont think I have had Anthrax , its around but very rare , ,, yet
mate ,had every thing else though , its natures way to build STRONG
resistance , I never catch a cold now

I never get sick , but do use panadol forte for arthritis after a
field trip , my bones are too old now to do more that tiny walks ,
but  sitting looking at rocks can take HOURS and I enjoy watching
insects too , that dont move unless you keep VERY VERY still , most
people never see them

Indeed mate I suspect Geologists will one day be ORDERED to sit down
for a hour every,  km to soak in the Geology under their feet

As you know Sir Jpt every rock contains a complete exact record of it
entire history , recorded for those with the time to learn , they "
READ ' the rocks like a book written by GOD / Nature  and most people
would be amazed to know just how much every rock can tell

I suspect thats WHY I discovered the 3000 year old Gold mine " in
South Australia

When people discover what this is , it will have more visitors per
year than Uluru
publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_6hm5bqkfc

More images of Ancient Iron Tool here
http://picasaweb.google.com/kangarooistan9/KangarooistanOldIronToolProofTurinPap
yrusGoldMineIsInSouthAustraliaTestImages
#
http://www.environment.gov.au/parks/uluru/

In 100 years time more people will visit " Kangas Rock " , than visit
Uluru / Ayers Rock

But future generations will be AMAZED at how long it took the SHEEPLE
to notice the " largest  mine in ALL history " was hiding RIGHT under
their  noses , for thousands of years , HUNDREDS of sq km Coorong /
lower Lakes  is INDEED an ancient mine site from Bronze Age
Phonetician mining enterprise for  over several thousands of years ,
ending over 2000 years ago
publicly viewable at:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_68n74sfjfh

Future generations will quote the COORONG as evidence of the failings
of western education system, they will never believe anybody with eyes
could miss such a MASSIVE mine unless they were " deliberately Blinded
" by closed mind's

How ANYBODY could not notice , THEN even refuse to believe will go
down in History as HY western Empires collapsed , a total combined
blindness has descended on the IQ of all western peoples , they REFUSE
to see anything that does not fit their version of facts

> I will write it soon,  as a service to Humanity in remembrance of one
> of the finest Australia Archeological Pioneer Of All Times : Mr
> Malcolm Fabian !!!  The discoverer of the Phoenicians' sources of Tin
> & Murex snails

Yes mate the lower Lakes and Coorong are INDEED old mines ,  flooded
and used as Murex Snail farms by ancient Phoenicians once the ' black
sand " was removed , it appears the did indeed harvest the famous
Purple Snails " as dye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple

HOW can Tyrinian PURPLE leather end up in a ANCIENT  gold mine in
South Australia , have a look at this beautiful artifact Sir JPT , a
beauty mate
http://picasaweb.google.com/kangarooistan9/KangarooistanOldIronToolProofTurinPap
yrusGoldMineIsInSouthAustraliaTestImages#5335900216165640418

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/e6VB-qnAAXdbI88aH5z0AQ

The lower water has now exposed several thousands of ancient bitumen
boats they used to carry  the sand to the Sluices setup at the mouth
of the Murray

publicly viewable at
: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_70grv6c2dm

> Look after yourself, Brother, and don't forget, never touch that tap
> water sh.t they feed you for drinking & cooking, those ignorant
> Antipodean criminals

Indeed mate the water is unfit for animals

> Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
> Australia Mining Pioneer
> Founder of the True Geology
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times - 28 Jul 2009 12:17 GMT
>Dear Mr Kanga,

Please note the rage of the Mining & Political Criminals as well as
their criminal inconditional supporters !!!

The Lower Lakes & Coorong are indeed going to be invaded by the
Southern Seas at the Anniversary date of the Massive Telfer Mine multi
billions Swindle & Collective Crimes indeed !

Re that  immediate & easy Antrax cure which I will dedicate to you,
mate, to give you recognition & gratitude for your amazing
Achaeological Discoveries ( a thing of which the Antipodean Convict
Rabble is unable indeed since only recognizing Criminal Geolgoical
Frauds & Mining Swindlers as admirable ) , I had not the intention to
give it away, although it has been effectively developed at the same
time than the Turcaud Bath
BUT thanks to you, I want it to be known to not only effectively
protect Anthrax but as well Flu victims with an immediate cure within
12 hours or overnight indeed !

No need then of Quacks, , of the Dizeazzezz Industry,  of the Bed-
Mannered Hypocritical blood suckers interested really in dollars &
profit : THE MALCOLM FABIAN CURE FOR ANTHRAX & FLU is going to be free
& very cheap to implement !

It will be my contribution to your FAM & your name to be recognized
worldwide ! I of course regret than Mining & Political Criminals will
benefit directly an immediately from such advanced knowledge, will run
away using it with their debased descent, relatives & employees and
this of course not even a thanks in return ! Still this is worth it if
it can save good people of your kind as well as friends of yours !

Of course the amazing cure for Brain tumour & any Cancer in less than
2 days flat without the slightest Quacks ' itntervention is going to
be kept secret ... indeed too many Mining& Political Criminals would
again benefit from it and this is something highly immoral in term of
Divine Celtic Justice ! Indeed one must Love his friends and Hate his
enemies, as of  Our Almighty  God's  teaching clearly implemented in
Natural Laws

With best regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
kangarooistan - 28 Jul 2009 23:28 GMT
On Jul 28, 8:17 pm, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:

> >Dear Mr Kanga,
>
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> this of course not even a thanks in return ! Still this is worth it if
> it can save good people of your kind as well as friends of yours !

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> Of course the amazing cure for Brain tumour & any Cancer in less than
> 2 days flat without the slightest Quacks ' itntervention is going to
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> With best regards

Hi Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
> Australia Mining Pioneer
> Founder of the True Geology

WHY not simply Grow your own vaccine

in your personal "coffee cup"

Kanga grows his own vaccines mate

Same with Cancer Vaccines , the human body cures several caners cells
every day of your life , the human body can cure cancer if you let
it ,WHY pay some expert to do what GOD designed your body to do for
FREE

Everybody gets hundreds of cancers , the body cures all of them ,
except the very last one  , and even the EXPERTS can not cure the last
cancer , they simply RIPP off the other so called " cures  " as being
their work  , when the human body cured the cancer , the EXPERTS
simply send the bill

> Dont LAUGH , remember it was bread mold that saved hundreds of
> millions of people as penicillin grown by accident  in a "petri dish"
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> Staphylococcus plate culture he had mistakenly left open, which was
> contaminated by blue-green mould.

If you intend to read on ,try this link if you can not see pics or
links
publicly viewable at: with pics and links for easy reference
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_81hnq3j8n8
> Permission granted for reprinting this link ,
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times - 29 Jul 2009 05:28 GMT
On Jun 28, 4:34 pm, "Dr. Sore John Coward, AC, WSCMoF"
<bjfoster.is.a.moron> wrote:

I am really sick of your flaming rhetorical ranting which drives me
( and any sane person)  up the wall indeed

Why not fall back on your pilot light and leave the high burner asleep
for say ...the next few ...month or so !

I
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times - 30 Jul 2009 05:17 GMT
NO WAY OUT BUT TO CONVENE THE REQUIRED ROYAL INQUIRY INTO BOTH MOST
ABOMINABLE AUSTRALIAN POLITICS BACKED 's  COLLECTIVE CRIMES :

THE TELFER MINE MASSIVE MULTI TRILLION SWINDLE
THE PORT ARTHUR MASS MURDERS COMMISSIONNED BY THE AUSTRALIA GOVERNMENT
ITSELF

No way out of the Federal & WA Whorehouses indeed but to comply with
the Laws of Divine Justice ... I will stand till Equinox with that
innocent man in Tasmanian Jail condemned to slow death for Crimes of
which Howard, Costello, Anderson have their dirty hands dripping of
100 good people blood

Likewise I  will not stand for Bush & Co getting away with their 9/11
over 3000 mass murders ... stern orders have been issued for all water
resources to Australia & America to peter out to nothing till full
Royal Inquiry is initiated in such Political Criminal leaders
abominable Crimes. In accordance  Lake Mead is to lose 100ft by next
Equinox with all water supplies to Vegas to come to full stop for a
start

Je Commande et la Nature Obeit à ma Voix

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947
 
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