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Fraser Johnston - 24 Apr 2004 08:30 GMT
With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
So GTR was sold on Thursday night at 6pm and by 8pm had found my new car.  A
1994 Subaru WRX wagon with a load of mods and a dyno sheet for 149kw at all
four.  Can't wait to pick it up.  The family sub 13 second wagon. ; )

Fraser
Firthy - 24 Apr 2004 12:34 GMT
its not a real wagon, its 2 matchboxes glued together with a firecracker up
their a.s...
HTH

Buy a V8

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> With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
> So GTR was sold on Thursday night at 6pm and by 8pm had found my new car.  A
> 1994 Subaru WRX wagon with a load of mods and a dyno sheet for 149kw at all
> four.  Can't wait to pick it up.  The family sub 13 second wagon. ; )
>
> Fraser
Fraser Johnston - 24 Apr 2004 14:08 GMT
> its not a real wagon, its 2 matchboxes glued together with a firecracker up
> their a.s...
> HTH
>
> Buy a V8

I'd love to but unfortunately I like fast cars that can handle.  Moron.

Fraser
Dan-- - 25 Apr 2004 00:29 GMT
> > Buy a V8
>
> I'd love to but unfortunately I like fast cars that can handle.  Moron.

What you saying no V8 powered cars can handle?
That's a bit far fetched.  
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All the best
Dan.
... and tonight on the Jerry Springer show "farmers who abuse their
hoes"
Fraser Johnston - 25 Apr 2004 03:40 GMT
> > > Buy a V8
> >
> > I'd love to but unfortunately I like fast cars that can handle.  Moron.
>
> What you saying no V8 powered cars can handle?
> That's a bit far fetched.

True.  There is plenty.  BMW M5 is a good example.  I was just being a
troll. ; )

Fraser
Dan-- - 25 Apr 2004 07:57 GMT
> True.  There is plenty.  BMW M5 is a good example.  I was just being a
> troll. ; )

Yeah the M5 is awesome got to drive one! :-)

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All the best
Dan.
... and tonight on the Jerry Springer show "farmers who abuse their
hoes"
Toby Ponsenby - 25 Apr 2004 09:08 GMT
<| Dan-- |> did write on  25Apr2004 at 4:57:50 PM

>> True.  There is plenty.  BMW M5 is a good example.  I was just being a
>> troll. ; )
>
> Yeah the M5 is awesome got to drive one! :-)

You have to gain temporary w.nker status to test drive any BMW.
The application forms are available from the dealers, but are only
available to those wearing ostensibly expensive watches, so you may have to
purchase, borrow or better yet, test-wear the watch.
This is not too difficult as the temporary w.nker applications at the
jewellers merely require the wearing of designer jeans.
Of course, if you already have the required watch - no problem.

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Fraser Johnston - 25 Apr 2004 16:18 GMT
> <| Dan-- |> did write on  25Apr2004 at 4:57:50 PM
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> jewellers merely require the wearing of designer jeans.
> Of course, if you already have the required watch - no problem.

Looks like I must be a w.nker.  My watch cost more than some of my cars.
But they were pretty sh.t cars.

Fraser
Noddy - 26 Apr 2004 02:42 GMT
"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
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> Looks like I must be a w.nker.  My watch cost more than some of my cars.
> But they were pretty sh.t cars.

How does an expensive watch that keeps good time do anything better than a
cheap watch that does the same thing?

Regards,
Noddy.
atec - 26 Apr 2004 02:55 GMT
Enhances a poofters appearance ?

> "Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
> news:c6gkss$brc7j$1@ID-
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Regards,
> Noddy.
Fraser Johnston - 26 Apr 2004 15:21 GMT
> Enhances a poofters appearance ?

Thanks for the offer but I'm not gay.  I'm flattered all the same.

Fraser
Jagwire - 26 Apr 2004 21:37 GMT
"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in news:c6j5sv$cje7n$1@ID-
201168.news.uni-berlin.de:

>> Enhances a poofters appearance ?
>
> Thanks for the offer but I'm not gay.  I'm flattered all the same.
>
> Fraser

Go on, get out of the closet FFS :-)
Serialprick ans Ozfool would be very happy :-)
Dan-- - 26 Apr 2004 03:17 GMT
> How does an expensive watch that keeps good time do anything better than a
> cheap watch that does the same thing?

I have a rolex but it does not keep time well because its broken.
:-)

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All the best
Dan.
... and tonight on the Jerry Springer show "farmers who abuse their
hoes"
Fraser Johnston - 26 Apr 2004 15:24 GMT
> > How does an expensive watch that keeps good time do anything better than a
> > cheap watch that does the same thing?
>
> I have a rolex but it does not keep time well because its broken.
> :-)

And the bastards weigh a ton.

Fraser
Fraser Johnston - 26 Apr 2004 15:23 GMT
> How does an expensive watch that keeps good time do anything better than a
> cheap watch that does the same thing?
>
> Regards,
> Noddy.

It doesn't.  But ever since I was a kid I've collected knives and watches.
The are both tools that you can take with you every day but they can also in
turn be minature works of art.  Every time you look at your wrist to see the
time you get to enjoy something you have worked hard to achieve.

Fraser
Noddy - 26 Apr 2004 22:20 GMT
"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
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> It doesn't.  But ever since I was a kid I've collected knives and watches.

Hairy muff.

> The are both tools that you can take with you every day but they can also in
> turn be minature works of art.  Every time you look at your wrist to see the
> time you get to enjoy something you have worked hard to achieve.

Cool.

I get your point. To me, it's just a watch, but I never cease to be amazed
at what some people get into.

Regards,
Noddy.
Clockmeister - 26 Apr 2004 23:51 GMT
> "Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
> news:c6j60d$cij7q$1@ID-
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> I get your point. To me, it's just a watch, but I never cease to be amazed
> at what some people get into.

I don't wear a watch, deliberately, because I don't want to be constraint by
time ;-)
Charlie - 27 Apr 2004 03:13 GMT
> I don't wear a watch, deliberately, because I don't want to be constraint by
> time ;-)

knowledge doesn't equal constraint :)

Charlie
athol - 27 Apr 2004 03:54 GMT
> I don't wear a watch, deliberately, because I don't want to be constraint by
> time ;-)

I haven't worn a watch in _years_.  I found a watch on my wrist to be very
uncomfortable and downright annoying...

Just about everything electrical has a clock these days.  If II need to
know the time, I'll look at my mobile, computer, wall clock, etc...

If I need to know the time _accurately_, I'll look at the GPS.  :-)

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Toby Ponsenby - 27 Apr 2004 04:00 GMT
<| Clockmeister |> did write on  27Apr2004 at 8:51:58 AM
> I don't wear a watch, deliberately, because I don't want to be constraint by
> time ;-)

Ahhh, but if you have a watch, you're in control of the situation while
it's being worn, whether or not you refer to it.
You have and you own your own time.
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Dan-- - 25 Apr 2004 23:16 GMT
> You have to gain temporary w.nker status to test drive any BMW.
> The application forms are available from the dealers, but are only
> available to those wearing ostensibly expensive watches, so you may have to
> purchase, borrow or better yet, test-wear the watch.

Gee Toby you crack me up! :-) nah its a mates M5 I got to drive. Bastard
moved to Perth now so I can't drive it unless I go up to bloody Perth!
:-)

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All the best
Dan.
... and tonight on the Jerry Springer show "farmers who abuse their
hoes"
Fraser Johnston - 26 Apr 2004 15:20 GMT
> > You have to gain temporary w.nker status to test drive any BMW.
> > The application forms are available from the dealers, but are only
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> moved to Perth now so I can't drive it unless I go up to bloody Perth!
> :-)

I'm in Perth hint hint.

Fraser
Noddy - 25 Apr 2004 01:20 GMT
"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
news:c6dosu$b1i92$1@ID-

> I'd love to but unfortunately I like fast cars that can handle.  Moron.

Never driven one, have you? :)

No disrespect to anyone else intended, but I've found that most of the car
enthusiasts from my generation who "cut their teeth" in bad handling cars
became very, very good drivers with quite impressive skill levels, and I
think the cars went a long way in helping to achieve that.

It was something that really stuck out like a sore thumb a few months ago
when my oldest nephew, who's just turned 21 and fancies himself behind the
wheel, had the opportunity to take a ride in a V8 Manual XR Fairmont.
Obviously compared to his Nissan Sylvia the old Falcon had piss poor brakes
& steering, and handled like a beached whale with plenty of power oversteer
on tap, and he was able to get himself unintentionally out of shape quite
easily (and a lot easier than I expected).

Behind the wheel of his Nissan he does quite a good job, and looks like he
knows his sh.t, but in the old Falcon he was hopeless.

Regards,
Noddy.
Dan-- - 25 Apr 2004 01:37 GMT
had the opportunity to take a ride in a V8 Manual XR Fairmont.
> Obviously compared to his Nissan Sylvia the old Falcon had piss poor brakes
> & steering, and handled like a beached whale with plenty of power oversteer
> on tap, and he was able to get himself unintentionally out of shape quite
> easily (and a lot easier than I expected).

Some people may disagree on me with this but I find that some cars
handle too well and it kind of takes the fun out of driving. I'd like a
car to give me a bit of a challenge around corners and straights and
what not. f.ck sometimes I even think my SS is too well set up as it out
handles most HSV and equivalents. This does not go without saying I like
a great handling car though. :-)

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... and tonight on the Jerry Springer show "farmers who abuse their
hoes"
Charlie - 25 Apr 2004 03:06 GMT
> No disrespect to anyone else intended, but I've found that most of the car
> enthusiasts from my generation who "cut their teeth" in bad handling cars
> became very, very good drivers with quite impressive skill levels, and I
> think the cars went a long way in helping to achieve that.

It's a shitload easier to get used to mucking around on the limits in a
car with shithouse tyres, I'll give you that.  

> It was something that really stuck out like a sore thumb a few months ago
> when my oldest nephew, who's just turned 21 and fancies himself behind the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> on tap, and he was able to get himself unintentionally out of shape quite
> easily (and a lot easier than I expected).

funny, I reckon silvia's would have to be one of the easiest cars to get
ridiculously out of shape in... standard ones have far wilder oversteer
characteristics than any falcon I've driven.  the sharp steering I
suppose makes it vaguely easier to deal with.

> Behind the wheel of his Nissan he does quite a good job, and looks like he
> knows his sh.t, but in the old Falcon he was hopeless.

I suspect you'd find the same of any 21 year old who was only used to
flogging falcons around, behind the wheel of something semi competent
they'd probably look retarded.  Certainly took me quite some time to get
to grips with my rx7.  Put me behind the wheel of a falcon / similar
vehicle and I can be retardo oversteer king, but such is the level of
commitment required to get the 7 slithering around like that that (even
in the wet) it'd be fairly rare for it to occur anywhere but a race
track...

Charlie
Toby Ponsenby - 25 Apr 2004 03:29 GMT
<| Charlie |> did write on  25Apr2004 at 12:06:31 PM

>> No disrespect to anyone else intended, but I've found that most of the car
>> enthusiasts from my generation who "cut their teeth" in bad handling cars
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>
> Charlie
[time for a post on 'speed as a spectator sport' post]
Yeah, the level of commitment thing if the big hitter.
You need to be going so fast to get a decent modern car out of shape that
the consequences of failure to get it back with some decorum are pretty
dire. So practising that sort of thing becomes extremely difficult to
arrange. This particularly applies to AWD stuff of whatever torque bias.

Of course, this is why police patrol industrial estates in the dead of
night.
Have to make sure the kids can't learn to drive properly, ya know.  

Meanwhile, houses are plundered in suburbia - where the real crooks are.
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Diesel Damo - 26 Apr 2004 02:19 GMT
> retardo oversteer king

LOL. Can you get that as a bumper sticker?
Clockmeister - 26 Apr 2004 13:24 GMT
> "Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
> news:c6dosu$b1i92$1@ID-
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> Behind the wheel of his Nissan he does quite a good job, and looks like he
> knows his sh.t, but in the old Falcon he was hopeless.

It's time to make way for the new and pull that old crap off the road :-)

(I'm kidding OK!)
Martin Hogan - 25 Apr 2004 12:10 GMT
> With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
> So GTR was sold on Thursday night at 6pm and by 8pm had found my new car.  A
> 1994 Subaru WRX wagon with a load of mods and a dyno sheet for 149kw at all
> four.  Can't wait to pick it up.  The family sub 13 second wagon. ; )

Um, 150kw at wheels isnt going to crack a 12 mate  :)

Id also be throwing the keys back at him if it had a load of mods and only
cracked 150kw/wheels.
Kineso - 25 Apr 2004 13:10 GMT
> Um, 150kw at wheels isnt going to crack a 12 mate  :)
>
> Id also be throwing the keys back at him if it had a load of mods and only
> cracked 150kw/wheels.

Well it all depends on what a stocker puts down on that dyno doesn't it?

Maybe the car has other mods besides engine tuning?  Like brakes and
suspension?
Fraser Johnston - 25 Apr 2004 16:19 GMT
> > Um, 150kw at wheels isnt going to crack a 12 mate  :)
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Maybe the car has other mods besides engine tuning?  Like brakes and
> suspension?

It does.

Fraser
Fraser Johnston - 25 Apr 2004 16:21 GMT
> > With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
> > So GTR was sold on Thursday night at 6pm and by 8pm had found my new car.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Id also be throwing the keys back at him if it had a load of mods and only
> cracked 150kw/wheels.

Guy had a dyno sheet to prove the 150kw at the wheels.  He said he ran a
12.9 in it but didn't have a timeslip to prove it.  Most of the mods are
pretty mild like unifilter, kakimoto 3" exhaust from turbos back, unichip,
STI intercooler with waterspray, full whiteline suspension, king springs etc
etc.  Drives lovely but has a dodgy front diff but it meant I got it for a
good price.  I will have it for a day then it goes for a diff rebuild.

Fraser
m@w8 - 27 Apr 2004 01:10 GMT
"Martin Hogan" <marty@REMOVE-MEvr4.kicks-a.s.net> wrote in message
> "Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
> > With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Id also be throwing the keys back at him if it had a load of mods and only
> cracked 150kw/wheels.

Hang on.  The average rex gets 100kW or less at the wheels.  An extra 50kW
isn't too bad.
Sure its not enough to crack a 12, but low 13's maybe.
reg-john - 27 Apr 2004 12:18 GMT
yeah i cant imagine it would be getting sub 13's. id be picking 13.2-13.3 as
an absolute minimum.

> > With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
> > So GTR was sold on Thursday night at 6pm and by 8pm had found my new car.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Id also be throwing the keys back at him if it had a load of mods and only
> cracked 150kw/wheels.
Fraser Johnston - 27 Apr 2004 12:53 GMT
> yeah i cant imagine it would be getting sub 13's. id be picking 13.2-13.3 as
> an absolute minimum.

I'll take it to the drags and let you know.

Fraser
Scribble - 28 Apr 2004 12:07 GMT
> > yeah i cant imagine it would be getting sub 13's. id be picking 13.2-13.3
> as
> > an absolute minimum.
>
> I'll take it to the drags and let you know.

On a wednesday night?
Let us know which one it's going to be :)

cheers
Steve
Fraser Johnston - 29 Apr 2004 01:17 GMT
> On a wednesday night?
> Let us know which one it's going to be :)
>
> cheers
> Steve

It will be on a Wednesday.  Probably in a couple of weeks.  A mate told me a
guy he knows with a Ferrari F355 and his mate with a Porsche GT2 are going
down so I will definitely be going to look.  If I have the car by then I'll
do a couple of runs.

Fraser
Martin Hogan - 29 Apr 2004 16:59 GMT
> > On a wednesday night?
> > Let us know which one it's going to be :)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> down so I will definitely be going to look.  If I have the car by then I'll
> do a couple of runs.

Sounds like itd be a good day to go down, can you let me know as well ? :)
Fraser Johnston - 30 Apr 2004 04:21 GMT
> > > On a wednesday night?
> > > Let us know which one it's going to be :)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Sounds like itd be a good day to go down, can you let me know as well ? :)

No worries.  I'll post it here.

Fraser
Alex - 27 Apr 2004 03:56 GMT
>With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
>So GTR was sold on Thursday night at 6pm and by 8pm had found my new car.  A
>1994 Subaru WRX wagon with a load of mods and a dyno sheet for 149kw at all
>four.  Can't wait to pick it up.  The family sub 13 second wagon. ; )

Nice one. What colour?

The kids are going to have strong neck muscles ;)

Cheers,

Alex.
Ernie and bert don't live in my email address.
Fraser Johnston - 27 Apr 2004 05:10 GMT
> >With the baby on the way it was time to move to something more practical.
> >So GTR was sold on Thursday night at 6pm and by 8pm had found my new car.  A
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The kids are going to have strong neck muscles ;)

White.  Kid will have a neck like a bull. ; )

Fraser
Alex - 28 Apr 2004 04:24 GMT
>White.  Kid will have a neck like a bull. ; )

Yeah.. My kids have strong necks too :) Is it a boy or a girl?

Pity about the colour. I don't like my cars to look like my fridge.
But I guess it fits in with your aim to have a sleeper.

Cheers,

Alex.
Ernie and bert don't live in my email address.
Fraser Johnston - 28 Apr 2004 06:14 GMT
> >White.  Kid will have a neck like a bull. ; )
>
> Yeah.. My kids have strong necks too :) Is it a boy or a girl?
>
> Pity about the colour. I don't like my cars to look like my fridge.
> But I guess it fits in with your aim to have a sleeper.

Ideally I would of liked a silver one.  I currently have 7/9ths of a boy and
a very big wife.  Hoping to pick the car up on Friday.

Fraser
 
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