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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / April 2004Oi Hatz. Did you miss this one?
http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=44137 Quote -- AUSTRALIA: Toyota Australia chief frets over China plant effect on exports 19 Apr 2004 Source: just-auto.com editorial team Article Summary: Toyota Australia, which just built its 2,000,000th car Down Under, is worried about exports after the parent Japanese group's new Chinese production plant starts making the Camry in 2006, president Ted Okada has said. End Quote -- Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! > Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! WTF is wrong with Chinese built Camry? Asian car made by asian, so? >> Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! > > WTF is wrong with Chinese built Camry? > Asian car made by asian, so? Quality. I understand Toyota would put in quality control measures but seriously, they're playing games with their name in quality terms. You should have seen some of the sh.t that came in containers from China when I worked at a PC accessory place. Really shithouse build, not to mention they ignored just about every standard set in the computer industry at the time. >>> Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > mention they ignored just about every standard set in the computer > industry at the time. Key phrase there being "at the time". The Chinese advance at an astonishing rate. We still tend to consider Japanese made as the best, but the rest of Asia really isn't that far off. Besides, the camry could do with a bit of "character".  SignatureBen Thomas Apparently less than 10% of accidents are caused by drivers exceeding the speed limit. =?ISO-8859-15?Q?BenOne=A9?= <nosp@m.thanks.mate> wrote in news:m9hm6c.4m6.ln@192.168.11.2: >>>> Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > We still tend to consider Japanese made as the best, but the rest of > Asia really isn't that far off. I have never considered Japanese as best! However I do remember way back, when anything that was made in Japan was cheap and nasty. Ron >>> Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > not to mention they ignored just about every standard set in the > computer industry at the time. They maybe cheaper though, unless Toyjo decide to keep the profits :-) Practice also makes perfect. > WTF is wrong with Chinese built Camry? > Asian car made by asian, so? They all look the anyway huh? No offence, some things the Chinese do really well, but quality is not usually one of them. "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message news:408e2665 > No offence, some things the Chinese do really well, but quality is not > usually one of them. They make Chinese food better than anyone else :) Regards, Noddy. > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message > news:408e2665 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. never been there have you ?. what we know as Chinese food isn't and your still a short arse , Ive 9 year old grand kids your height , but they are much better looking , ( trollyeoll ) > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message > news:408e2665 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. The Peking Duck we had in Shanghai was sh.t compared to here, but then it may have been more authentic. Plus a lot of the dishes were drowned in oil. Certainly not to my western (married to Chinese) tastes. SignatureBen Thomas Apparently less than 10% of accidents are caused by drivers exceeding the speed limit. BenOne? <nosp@m.thanks.mate> wrote in news:ichm6c.4m6.ln@192.168.11.2: >> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message >> news:408e2665 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > it may have been more authentic. Plus a lot of the dishes were drowned > in oil. Certainly not to my western (married to Chinese) tastes. In that case, ask your wife about Chinese food. I lived in Singapore for 2 years. Highlandese (sp?) make the best western type food and Cantonese the best asian type food. Over here food is a better quality with more herbs and spices added to appeal to our tastes. Ron "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in news:408e2665$0 $4547$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au: >> WTF is wrong with Chinese built Camry? >> Asian car made by asian, so? > > They all look the anyway huh? > No offence, some things the Chinese do really well, but quality is not > usually one of them. It won't matter, people will still buy them :-) >>Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! I think Toyota Australia are concerned about the Chinese Camry eating into their export markets, not competing with them inside Australia. > WTF is wrong with Chinese built Camry? > Asian car made by asian, so? By that reasoning, a Malaysian built Proton should be just as good as the equivilent Japanese built Mitsubishi? And a South African BMW or Mercedes is just as good too? Graham W <zebedee@alphalink.au> wrote in news:408fd4db$1 @news.alphalink.com.au: >>>Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And a South African BMW or Mercedes is just as good too? Yes, they are all perfect :-) > http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=44137 > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Chinese built Camry's???? Farrrkk offff! Thanks for the old info. 1/What is wrong with China?Don't you think they can build quality? 2/The Toyota plant will be built to Japanese standard in a Japanese fashion,with only the most trained employees being able to be employed,it will be managed by the Japanese too 3/The quality will be equal or very very close to what is built at any other Toyota plant around the world 4/China will be perhaps the largest car consumers on the planet in a decade or so 5/Chinese in general cannot drive all that well CDIHL "TerracottaWarrior®" wrote: > > http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=44137 > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > fashion,with only the most trained employees being able to be employed,it > will be managed by the Japanese too I wonder if China has any emmission standards for cars? A mate just got back from his second visit to China in the last couple of months and says the air pollution is extremely bad around Shanghi. Daryl > I wonder if China has any emmission standards for cars? > A mate just got back from his second visit to China in the last couple > of months and says the air pollution is extremely bad around Shanghi. China does not have any pollution problem that the Gov. would admit to Any type of Greenie folk are taken for a bit of a prison visit or perhaps just shot Look at Chinas miracle economy,perhaps we can learn a lesson from that? CDIHL > Daryl "TerracottaWarrior®" wrote: > > I wonder if China has any emmission standards for cars? > > A mate just got back from his second visit to China in the last couple [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Look at Chinas miracle economy,perhaps we can learn a lesson from that? So its OK if everyone dies from respiratory illnesses or lung cancer as long as the economy is OK? Strong emission standards have been good for the car industry as well as peoples health, if it wasn't for their introduction we would still be driving gutless petrol guzzling old technology crap, emission standards forced the car makers to get off their lazy arses and develop better cars. Daryl > > > I wonder if China has any emmission standards for cars? > > > A mate just got back from his second visit to China in the last couple [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > So its OK if everyone dies from respiratory illnesses or lung cancer as > long as the economy is OK? The old story, like jails,"as long as it is not my neck of the woods" > Strong emission standards have been good for the car industry as well as > peoples health, if it wasn't for their introduction we would still be > driving gutless petrol guzzling old technology crap, emission standards > forced the car makers to get off their lazy arses and develop better > cars. The new cars coming from China will be as clean as any,they are not going to start to manufacture a car with a carby or old technology,esp. if it is to be exported You will find even without government interference the manufacturers will improve and develop its own goods to be more simple,cleaner, easier to build and recycle at its life end Most of the pollution is prob. coming from industry or old shitbox vehicles like 2-stroke motorcycles CDIHL > Daryl <| TerracottaWarrior® |> did write on 30Apr2004 at 1:12:39 PM > You will find even without government interference the manufacturers will > improve and develop its own goods to be more simple,cleaner, easier to build > and recycle at its life end Hmm, I see you have you hear up your arse again today, Hartz. You missed the only matter that without GovCo intervention the manufacturers would do. Which is. Improve profits. Naught else matters. I guess GovCo makes the running on pollution etc, mainly because their taxpayers are shuffling off closer and closer to the officially observed put out to pasture age or worse, opting out. To the extent that they've allowed people to 'not' retire, to make up the numbers. Leaving aside the obvious matter that our current GovCo is *also* doing it to roll back labour movement gains almost half a century old, some of the shite they're pedaling might make the running in the market, and therefore encourage manufacturers to build 'apparrently' cleaner goods. But that'd be an accident. SignatureToby quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Warning: All posts to be treated with a grain of salt. By Order K.K. On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:59:35 +1000, TerracottaWarrior® <hatzolah@hotmail.com®> wrote: > 1/What is wrong with China?Don't you think they can build quality? > 2/The Toyota plant will be built to Japanese standard in a Japanese [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > CDIHL 1. No I don't. I am sure they are capable of doing so, but the purpose of building in China is to SAVE money -- therefore cost cutting in particular areas will have to happen which eventually leads to inferior quality. 2. The plans may require the plant to be built to Japanese standards but why would Toyota build a new plant in China if it wasn't cheap enough? Again, I'm sure the Chinese can build to a high quality but will they when the ultimate goal is to save money? 3. Refer above. No one knows that yet. Quite possible but I've yet to be convinced of this. Just the other day I bought a new right blinker assembly for the TJ magna. It wasn't original Mitsubishi but a Chinese copy. Whacked it in, looks all nice and good but on the first wash, the bloody thing fogged up like f.ck. Old one, or the other ones never did that. Typical. 4. It would be logical for that to happen when they're the most populated. Doesn't mean they'll turn out good cars though. We still consider Hyundai, Kia, etc., to be of a lower quality and how long have they been at it? 5. Common knowledge, which will probably bring a barrage of anti-racist assaults. |
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