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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / February 2005End of a era V6
Another engine goes to heaven, they are killing off a big-hearted legend in the V6 field, for what is rapidly becoming one of the biggest lemon V6's ever made, looks like the Fiat/GM divorce was a little late to save it... http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/cars/alfa_romeo/02/arese/2302.html http://tinyurl.com/3qrm5 Regards G.B > Another engine goes to heaven, they are killing off a big-hearted > legend in the V6 field, for what is rapidly becoming one of the biggest [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > G.B Greybeard?? - this post could only have been made by the long lost Hatzolah ! >Another engine goes to heaven, they are killing off a big-hearted >legend in the V6 field, for what is rapidly becoming one of the biggest [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >G.B One good thing is the co operation with Maserati which should see their sweet V8 make it's way into Alfas 16/02/2005 Alfa Romeo And Maserati To Work On New Products Alfa Romeo & Maserati to co-operate technically and commercially Fiat announces that the ownership of Maserati, currently wholly owned by Ferrari, will be transferred as soon as practicable to Fiat. The move forsees that Alfa Romeo and Maserati will co-operate closely technically and commercially - particularly in important international markets. Maserati will, however, continue its co-operation with Ferrari - especially in industrial, technical, engine and sales network terms - which has helped re-vitalise the marque. "This is a significant step forward for both Maserati and Alfa Romeo. The synergies between the two marques will bring benefits to both and will allow us to strengthen our portfolio offering in the sports car market" said Luca Cordero di Montezemolo, Chairman of Fiat and of Ferrari. "Maserati is now at a significant point in its development. In 2004 it achieved substantial sales growth to 4,600 cars and received tremendously positive international acclaim of its Quattroporte model." "This move is essential to the future development of Alfa Romeo" said Sergio Marchionne, CEO of Fiat. "We believe that as part of the re-launch of Fiat Auto, we need to devote great attention to the distinctiveness of our brands. The technical and commercial collaboration between Maserati and Alfa Romeo will give the latter the necessary impetus to re-establish itself as a leading contender in its segment and to expand its presence in international markets, as has occurred for Maserati." Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > One good thing is the co operation with Maserati which should see > their sweet V8 make it's way into Alfas Geez, it's a nice motor, but you wouldn't want it driving through front wheels surely? Brett > Geez, it's a nice motor, but you wouldn't want it driving through front > wheels surely? Lancia had a FWD V8 not too many years ago, and I think Cadillac still does. > Lancia had a FWD V8 not too many years ago, and I think Cadillac still does. Back a few years ago, Oldsmobile had the Toranado with a 455ci V8 in FWD and Cadillac had a 500ci V8 using the same FWD auto. It seems that the FWD platform was popular with stretch limo builders because they didn't have to make axtended drivelines with multiple tailshafts. Worryingly, the Toranado was promoted as a "sports coupe"... They were calling a FWD 455ci V8 _in auto only_ a performance vehicle! Remarkably, both of these vehicles had a longitudinal engine with the torque convertor and pump of the auto behind the engine, then a triplex chain driving to the rest of the gearbox, which was located under the left (right when viewed from the front) bank of the engine. The rear extension of the gearbox was a diff housing. The box was derived from the T400. IIRC, it was called the T425. It was also used in GMC motorhome chassis with the 455 Olds. Even more trivia. The Weigert Vector "supercars" used this same gearbox, but fully manualised and converted to transverse by replacing the right-angle drive diff with a parallel drive unit. This setup was fitted to a twin turbocharged 350 chev.  SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > Even more trivia. The Weigert Vector "supercars" used this same > gearbox, but fully manualised and converted to transverse by > replacing the right-angle drive diff with a parallel drive unit. > This setup was fitted to a twin turbocharged 350 chev. I still have a tape of Beyond 2000 and had an thing on about the Vector also you could dial in the boost to make it pump around 1000 hp as well. But the led electronic dashboard was crying out for a rethink. SignatureRegards Dan "In all of us there is a lawless side like a wild beast, that peers out during sleep" - Jim Steinman > Remarkably, both of these vehicles had a longitudinal engine with > the torque convertor and pump of the auto behind the engine, then > a triplex chain driving to the rest of the gearbox, which was > located under the left (right when viewed from the front) bank of > the engine. The rear extension of the gearbox was a diff housing. Compicated! Wonder why they did not reproduce the system had in the 30's Cords and Auburns. Ron >> One good thing is the co operation with Maserati which should see >> their sweet V8 make it's way into Alfas [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Brett Probably not, but AWD would be nice now that Alfa is moving in that direction. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. ... > AWD would be nice now that Alfa is > moving in that direction. ... They've been making AWD cars for years, I guess they were just considered too exxy to bother to bring many here. The last of the Alfa 33's were available in AWD form here, but that didn't help when the likes of Corollas were outperforming them. Not to mention the fact that your Corolla-sized $40k new car was just as likely to catch fire & burn to the asphalt on the drive home from the dealership ... :) Signature--- Forg! -DUH#6- ---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- Brought to you by DUH!Inc. DUH!Inc; Building Synergistic Wellness For All >... > > AWD would be nice now that Alfa is > > moving in that direction. >... > >They've been making AWD cars for years, Yep, and pretty soon they'll have an AWD in every model.. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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