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Uncle Bully - 26 Feb 2005 07:00 GMT
Bog standard 98 Commy Exec
124,000kms
12 months rego
Regularly serviced at Holden dealer.
Good mechanical cond but cosmetic damage (scratches and a few minor dings)
Silver
Will throw in sheepskin seat covers
I'm going to check with the insurance company to claim on some of the dings
so I may be able to remove most of those before sale.

A dealer has offered a tad below $10k as a trade-in so I'm offering it at
this price to anyone who wants it.
Will have photos available soon when my new camera arrives (last one got
pinched)

Car is in Sydney Nthn Beaches but will consider delivery anywhere in
mainland Aus for cash.

email: wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE
Serialpest - 26 Feb 2005 07:13 GMT
On 26/2/05 5:00 PM, in article 38al4tF5huia1U1@individual.net, "Uncle Bully"
<wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:

> Bog standard 98 Commy Exec
> 124,000kms
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> email: wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE

Jesus, and the commodore drivers always go on about magna resale value!
Ziggy Switkowski - 26 Feb 2005 07:16 GMT
that's 7 years old.

How old is a $10,000 magna ?

> On 26/2/05 5:00 PM, in article 38al4tF5huia1U1@individual.net, "Uncle
> Bully"
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Jesus, and the commodore drivers always go on about magna resale value!
Serialpest - 26 Feb 2005 07:27 GMT
On 26/2/05 5:16 PM, in article
42202247$0$21884$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au, "Ziggy
Switkowski" <Ziggy@telstra.com> wrote:

> that's 7 years old.
>
> How old is a $10,000 magna ?

1998
OzOne - 26 Feb 2005 07:28 GMT
>that's 7 years old.
>
>How old is a $10,000 magna ?

May '96.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
maxfli** - 26 Feb 2005 08:05 GMT
>>that's 7 years old.
>>
>>How old is a $10,000 magna ?
>>
> May '96.

bwawawa   .

1996 MITSUBISHI MAGNA

TE Sedan Executive 4dr Auto 4sp 3.0i (Apr onwards)

     Trade in price guide* $3,800 - $5,400

regards
maxy
OzOne - 26 Feb 2005 08:36 GMT
>>>that's 7 years old.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>regards
>maxy

Yep, he was talking tradein prices.
Just before Xmas I was offered $9500 on my TE Magna as a trade on the
SV6.
NRMA inspected the vehicle and have insured it for $11,000.
Yes, it is an exceptional vehicle in virtually showroom
condition....it's easy to keep it taht way because of the excellent
build quality ;-)

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
maxfli** - 26 Feb 2005 09:32 GMT
>>>>that's 7 years old.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> condition....it's easy to keep it taht way because of the excellent
> build quality ;-)

Rarely started and rarely driven hey ,  sounds about right :-)) onya oz !
My old neighbour once had a landcrab 1800 that was  showroom - that is how
often the thing ran :-))

regards
maxy
OzOne - 26 Feb 2005 09:46 GMT
>Rarely started and rarely driven hey ,  sounds about right :-)) onya oz !
>My old neighbour once had a landcrab 1800 that was  showroom - that is how
>often the thing ran :-))
>
>regards
>maxy

Nah, actually it's a daily drive for my 18yo son.
Washed when ever it's dirty, and AutoGlymed every month.

Still as tight as the day it rolled off the showroom floor....though
not as tight as my SV6 which wouldn't rev, and had to be turned
straight after corners because the steering was so stiff.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
dvk - 27 Feb 2005 07:14 GMT
> bwawawa   .

HEH
Ziggy Switkowski - 26 Feb 2005 08:18 GMT
as a rough as guts estimation on auto trader, $10,990 gets you a '98 - '00
magna in mint condition. The $990 no one would pay anyway as its all
dealerships and that's negotiable. Perth prices.

at the stealership, $10,990 gets you a '97 commode with close to 200,000k's
on the clock, or if your a dickhead, an '89 VN SS private sale  with
300,000k's on the clock. Bargain.... ;)

>>that's 7 years old.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
OzOne - 26 Feb 2005 08:46 GMT
>as a rough as guts estimation on auto trader, $10,990 gets you a '98 - '00
>magna in mint condition. The $990 no one would pay anyway as its all
>dealerships and that's negotiable. Perth prices.

Oh right, 10990 over a 2 year range?
Bwaaahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaaaa!
Wanna buy a bridge?

>at the stealership, $10,990 gets you a '97 commode with close to 200,000k's
>on the clock, or if your a dickhead, an '89 VN SS private sale  with
>300,000k's on the clock. Bargain.... ;)

Jesus, they devalue fast eh?
What's a '97? Last of the VS...no wonder!

Who in their right mind would pay $11k for a 16 year old taxi with
stickers on it?

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
Ziggy Switkowski - 26 Feb 2005 21:44 GMT
> Who in their right mind would pay $11k for a 16 year old taxi with
> stickers on it?

Hence why I said, if your a dickhead.... about 9K too much as far as I'm
concerned, however, this is Australia, and there is certainly no shortage of
dickheads out there that would consider that fully sick car to be a bargain.
Hugo-a-Gogo - 26 Feb 2005 09:45 GMT
>>that's 7 years old.
>>
>>How old is a $10,000 magna ?
>>
>May '96.

www.redbook.com.au

1996 MITSUBISHI MAGNA

TE Sedan Executive 4dr Auto 4sp 3.0i (Apr onwards)
average kms     150,000 - 180,000
Trade in price guide*     $3,800 - $5,400
National average price - private sale*     $5,100 - $7,300
Price when new (RRP)     $29,650

1998 MITSUBISHI MAGNA
TF Sedan Executive 4dr Auto 4sp 3.0i
average kms     120,000 - 150,000
Trade in price guide*     $5,000 - $6,800
National average price - private sale*     $6,500 - $8,800
Price when new (RRP)     $29,800

I think I found it now.

2000 MITSUBISHI MAGNA
TJ Sedan Executive 4dr Auto 4sp 3.5i (Aug onwards)
average kms     90,000 - 110,000
Trade in price guide*     $9,400 - $11,500
National average price - private sale*     $11,100 - $13,700
Price when new (RRP)     $30,290

1998 HOLDEN COMMODORE
VT Sedan Executive 4dr Auto 4sp 5.0i
average kms     120,000 - 150,000
Trade in price guide*     $9,000 - $11,000
National average price - private sale*     $10,600 - $13,200
Price when new (RRP)     $33,600
Hugo-a-Gogo - 26 Feb 2005 09:48 GMT
>>>that's 7 years old.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>National average price - private sale*     $10,600 - $13,200
>Price when new (RRP)     $33,600

sorry picked the 5L above
1998 HOLDEN COMMODORE
VT Sedan Executive 4dr Auto 4sp 3.8i
average kms     120,000 - 150,000
Trade in price guide*     $7,100 - $9,000
National average price - private sale*     $8,600 - $10,900
Price when new (RRP)     $30,500
OzOne - 26 Feb 2005 10:01 GMT
>>>>that's 7 years old.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>National average price - private sale*     $8,600 - $10,900
>Price when new (RRP)     $30,500

Magna holds it's price well eh...especially seeing no-one paid list
price.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
OzOne - 26 Feb 2005 09:58 GMT
>>>that's 7 years old.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>National average price - private sale*     $10,600 - $13,200
>Price when new (RRP)     $33,600

OK, so the Commodore that cost $4000 more when new now costs $4000
more.

What was your arguement again...Oh yeah, you were going to mention the
discounting that Mitsu has done over the last 5 years which has
steeply devalued the cars....Right?

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
athol - 27 Feb 2005 00:48 GMT
> www.redbook.com.au

> 1998 HOLDEN COMMODORE
> VT Sedan Executive 4dr Auto 4sp 5.0i
> average kms     120,000 - 150,000
> Trade in price guide*   $9,000 - $11,000
> National average price - private sale*  $10,600 - $13,200
> Price when new (RRP)    $33,600

How about these:

1998 MITSUBISHI VERADA
KF Wagon Ei 4dr Auto 4sp 3.5i
average kms     120,000 - 150,000
Trade in price guide*     $7,600 - $9,300
National average price - private sale*     $8,900 - $11,300
Price when new (RRP)     $45,330

1999 MITSUBISHI VERADA
KF Wagon Ei 4dr Auto 4sp 3.5i
average kms     110,000 - 130,000
Trade in price guide*     $7,700 - $9,500
National average price - private sale*     $9,100 - $11,400
Price when new (RRP)     $45,330

Note the _new_ price.  How's that for depreciation!

Then there's this one, which I bought last year from a dealer
for $15,500:  (Mine has ABS and cruise, which aren't in the
base model priced here, but mine has 11x,000km on it.)

2001 FORD FALCON
AU II Wagon Forte 4dr Auto 4sp 4.0Gi (LPG Only)
average kms     75,000 - 95,000
Trade in price guide*     $11,200 - $13,900
National average price - private sale*     $13,400 - $16,400
Price when new (RRP)     $34,758

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Dan--------- - 27 Feb 2005 00:59 GMT
> 1999 MITSUBISHI VERADA
> KF Wagon Ei 4dr Auto 4sp 3.5i
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>
> Note the _new_ price.  How's that for depreciation!

That is pretty bad.

> Then there's this one, which I bought last year from a dealer
> for $15,500:  (Mine has ABS and cruise, which aren't in the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> National average price - private sale*     $13,400 - $16,400
> Price when new (RRP)     $34,758

Here is for my Calais and my 98 Falcon wagon.
2004 HOLDEN CALAIS

VY II Sedan 4dr Auto 4sp 5.7i   
average kms    18,000 - 22,000    
Trade in price guide*    $34,400 - $38,600    
National average price - private sale*    $37,800 - $42,900    
Price when new (RRP)    $55,360   
all prices quoted are GST inclusive

1998 FORD FALCON

EL Wagon GLi 4dr Auto 4sp 5.0i   
average kms    120,000 - 150,000    
Trade in price guide*    $5,100 - $6,900    
National average price - private sale*    $6,600 - $8,900    
Price when new (RRP)    $33,993

The Falcon isn't that great either nor is it the worst.

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Regards Dan
"In all of us there is a lawless side like a wild beast, that peers out
during sleep"
- Jim Steinman

Forg - 27 Feb 2005 05:50 GMT
...
> The Falcon isn't that great either
> nor is it the worst.
...

Volvos must come close to winning the "worst" guernsey.  Someone posted
yesterday from Brisbane on another car-related forum that he was
considering a low-km 1998 V70-XC for $17k; they were $78k list-price in
'98.  Also, I was recently looking at immaculate one-owner $5k-$6k Volvo
940GLE's, which is the sort of money that just-about approximates "zero"
in car terms; they were a $50k car 10-11 years ago.

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Dan--------- - 27 Feb 2005 06:07 GMT
> Volvos must come close to winning the "worst" guernsey.  Someone posted
> yesterday from Brisbane on another car-related forum that he was
> considering a low-km 1998 V70-XC for $17k; they were $78k list-price in
> '98.  Also, I was recently looking at immaculate one-owner $5k-$6k Volvo
> 940GLE's, which is the sort of money that just-about approximates "zero"
> in car terms; they were a $50k car 10-11 years ago.

Jesus did Mitsubishi infect them?

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"In all of us there is a lawless side like a wild beast, that peers out
during sleep"
- Jim Steinman

Ron - 27 Feb 2005 06:57 GMT
>> Volvos must come close to winning the "worst" guernsey.  Someone
>> posted yesterday from Brisbane on another car-related forum that he
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Jesus did Mitsubishi infect them?

Don't think so, they already had an "Image". It is hard to shake off an
image. i.e. Jaguar had an "image" from the 'Leyland' years and with the
"Noddys" around, it will be difficult to shake that "image" :-)

Mitsubishi Magna has an "IMAGE" (big one), Mitsi AU should change the
name of the nrxt Magna sized car, to try and shake that "IMAGE",
otherwise they'll go into under!!! :-)

Ron
Ron - 27 Feb 2005 06:53 GMT
Forg <Forg@zip.com.au> wrote in news:42215fb9$0$6162$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au:

> ...
> > The Falcon isn't that great either
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 940GLE's, which is the sort of money that just-about approximates "zero"
> in car terms; they were a $50k car 10-11 years ago.

Simple, DON'T buy a new one :-)
Uncle Bully - 27 Feb 2005 10:00 GMT
> ...
> > The Falcon isn't that great either
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 940GLE's, which is the sort of money that just-about approximates "zero"
> in car terms; they were a $50k car 10-11 years ago.

I heard a story on the radio about a guy who lost $150k on his 2 year old
Mercedes S600. That must hurt.
Toby Ponsenby - 27 Feb 2005 10:05 GMT
> I heard a story on the radio about a guy who lost $150k on his 2 year old
> Mercedes S600. That must hurt.

Aren't they designed to last *much* longer than that?
What sort of w.nker goes out and buys uber-expensive S class, tries to
unload it in 2 years, and has the gall to bitch about it?

Oh, that's right - the same one that buys a block of units under an
airport approach/departure path and beside a freeway and then starts
on about the noise problem.

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Uncle Bully - 27 Feb 2005 20:52 GMT
>> I heard a story on the radio about a guy who lost $150k on his 2 year old
>> Mercedes S600. That must hurt.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> airport approach/departure path and beside a freeway and then starts
> on about the noise problem.

Or the guy who buys a block of land which the coucil has specifically zoned
low density, then takes the coucil to court and wins approval to build high
rise units there.
atec - 26 Feb 2005 09:02 GMT
> that's 7 years old.
>
> How old is a $10,000 magna ?

about 20 minutes ? since rego
Noddy - 26 Feb 2005 09:54 GMT
> A dealer has offered a tad below $10k as a trade-in so I'm offering it at
> this price to anyone who wants it.

Don't hold your breath at that money Bully.

Trade in prices are often pumped up to "do the deal", and that's a fair bit
over what a series one Exec can be had almost anywhere.

Off load it to the dealer and save yourself the hassle.

--
Regards,
Noddy.
Uncle Bully - 26 Feb 2005 13:35 GMT
>> A dealer has offered a tad below $10k as a trade-in so I'm offering it at
>> this price to anyone who wants it.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Off load it to the dealer and save yourself the hassle.

I'm flexible on price as long it is the same or slightly more than what I
already have.
I'd like to at least offer it privately before it gets recycled onto a yard
at $13k. Ebay has free Car Ads next week, so I'll see what happens with
that.
 
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