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Mike M - 16 Dec 2004 22:46 GMT
My wife is interested in a 1.8 A4 AWD. Having experience with Volvo AWD I am
not interested in AWD. How does the Audi AWD system work? Is it better than
other cars?
Thank You
Mike
Peter Bell - 16 Dec 2004 22:58 GMT
> My wife is interested in a 1.8 A4 AWD. Having experience with Volvo
> AWD I am not interested in AWD. How does the Audi AWD system work? Is
> it better than other cars?

I've not driven an AWD Volvo, but having once observed one reversing, on
full lock, on gravel, I don't think I'd want to.  The inside rear wheel
of this car was spinning about half a revolution, about twice a second,
throwing loose gravel all over the place.  The car was making extremely
slow progress.

Rest assured that the Torsen system in an Audi quattro will behave much
better.  I drive an Audi RS6 (450bhp) and I've never been aware of any
wheel spinning in any circumstances.  I can floor the throttle on a wet,
greasy, road and the car just launches forward with great gusto.

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Petri Rehtonen - 17 Dec 2004 05:44 GMT
> Rest assured that the Torsen system in an Audi quattro will behave much
> better.  I drive an Audi RS6 (450bhp) and I've never been aware of any
> wheel spinning in any circumstances.  I can floor the throttle on a wet,
> greasy, road and the car just launches forward with great gusto.

My 1.8t will show excessive wheel spinnig in snow. And that's the way I
like it. The difference between the old Volvo AWD and Audi AWD (torsen)
is that in Audi all the wheels spin contrary to the Volvo. I have heard
that the new Volvo AWD (Haldex) is very good.

Peter, switch the ESP off and DRIVE our car, please. :-)

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Chuck - 17 Dec 2004 02:04 GMT
If you do get the 1.8turbo save yourself some headaches and change the oil
every 3-4thousand miles.
Chuck

> My wife is interested in a 1.8 A4 AWD. Having experience with Volvo AWD I
> am
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> Thank You
> Mike
Petri Rehtonen - 17 Dec 2004 05:36 GMT
> If you do get the 1.8turbo save yourself some headaches and change the oil
> every 3-4thousand miles.

Or better, use proper oil.

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Cam Newton - 21 Dec 2004 18:40 GMT
>If you do get the 1.8turbo save yourself some headaches and change the oil
>every 3-4thousand miles.
>Chuck

Why?

The manufacturer recommends longer distances. I am taking my '04 1.8q
in for its 8K km check in the new year. I will change the oil as
recommnded by Audi.

>> My wife is interested in a 1.8 A4 AWD. Having experience with Volvo AWD I
>> am
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>> Thank You
>> Mike
JPow - 03 Feb 2005 01:12 GMT
Just curious why I wouldn't want to follow the dealers recommendations?  I
just took ownership of a 2005 A4 1.8t quartro and was planning on following
the maintenance schedule.  Should I have the oil changed more frequently?
Also, wouldn't the dealer use the correct oil when they change it?  One of
the attractions of Audi, among others, was that the maintenance was included
free for the first four years or 50k miles.  I'm sure that this has been
discussed but I am new to the boards and am looking for advice.

Jim

>>If you do get the 1.8turbo save yourself some headaches and change the oil
>>every 3-4thousand miles.
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>>> Thank You
>>> Mike
Curtis Newton - 03 Feb 2005 16:26 GMT
>Just curious why I wouldn't want to follow the dealers recommendations?  I
>just took ownership of a 2005 A4 1.8t quartro and was planning on following
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>free for the first four years or 50k miles.  I'm sure that this has been
>discussed but I am new to the boards and am looking for advice.

Audi has had some sludge issues with the 1.8T and the service
recommended 10,000 mile oil change.  I have a 2001 V6 A4 and that was
the interval they followed for mine.  I would do every other oil
change myself.

I would use synthetic oil (such as Mobil 1 0W40 or Castrol Syntec
0W30) and change it every 5,000 miles.  Your engine will be much
happier.

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Alec - 03 Feb 2005 21:44 GMT
No that's quite wrong.
If you live in North America you must change the oil every time you drive
round the block

>>Just curious why I wouldn't want to follow the dealers recommendations?  I
>>just took ownership of a 2005 A4 1.8t quartro and was planning on
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Billy Ray - 03 Feb 2005 23:28 GMT
The link below will take you to the Audi Approved Oil List.  It is
interesting to see which motor oil manufacturers are NOT on the list such as
Redline, Royal Purple and especially Amsoil.

http://www.audiusa.com/common/images/Audi_Approved_Oil_Chart.pdf

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>>just took ownership of a 2005 A4 1.8t quartro and was planning on
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BBO - 17 Dec 2004 09:09 GMT
> My wife is interested in a 1.8 A4 AWD. Having experience with Volvo AWD I am
> not interested in AWD. How does the Audi AWD system work? Is it better than
> other cars?

This little video snippet should put your doubts aside. It features a
test of a range of AWD cars trying to get up a ski slope. The Audi
Allroad continues all the way to the top.

It is with german speech, but the video speaks for it self. The video is
encoded using DivX.

http://www.supercars.de/html/related_link/related.html?link=853

Enjoy,

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Pete - 17 Dec 2004 09:27 GMT
"BBO"

> This little video snippet should put your doubts aside.

If it's the same video I've seen last week, then I'd say it's highly
biased/suspicious.  As much as I'm sure Allroad is capable of getting up the
slope, I'm pretty sure the others are as well, if only the drivers knew what
they were doing and had proper tires.  I mean, why did the Nissan just hit
the brakes and stop?

There was a test a while back that was put together by BMW to show that
their awd system (on 330xi I believe) is better than Audi's torsen.  The
test was set up in such a way, that BMW came out clearly superior.  So, I'd
take all these tests with a grain of salt.

Cheers,

Pete
 
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