>Thanks Dave. I was not asking about the difficulty. I wouldn't try to do
>something like that myself. I was only asking if it was possible and worked
>well. I know that for my Mom's car, a Ford, the dealer recommends against
>remote start. I don't recall why.

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Wolfgang writes:
>) I don't want the engine of my car running when I'm not near.
>.) That means I can't have first gear engaged in a stick shift car
>.) all alarms immobilizers et al get switched off/overridden, making
>the car an easy target for thiefs
Wrong. All alarms are still active. The car is no easier to steal than it was
before the remote was installed. It takes the ignition key in the ignition to
drive the car. Friends have one installed in their RS6 and checked with their
insurance company before installation. Insurance company okayed it.
>Oh, and alarms and such remain on.
The alarms remain on in the installations I am familiar with. The car is no
easier to steal than before. As far as fuel - I don't believe three - five
minutes of idle is going to use much fuel.
I do not have one installed in my RS6 because it sits in a relatively warm
garage, but I have family and friends that use them and swear by them.
The original question was can they be installed in 2002 - 05 Audis, and the
answer is yes, but it is best done by a professional installer. Different
strokes for different folks, Wolfgang.
Dave
AustinMini.OsiTech.Net - 06 Feb 2005 01:26 GMT
There is nothing worse than the uneducated opinion on a subject Wolfgang.
None of your points are valid and are all untrue.
Spend some time on the subject matter first before engaging keyboard in the
future.

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> Dave
Wolfgang Pawlinetz - 06 Feb 2005 07:47 GMT
>There is nothing worse than the uneducated opinion on a subject Wolfgang.
>None of your points are valid and are all untrue.
I admitted that Dave corrected me on the alarm issues, maybe you can
elaborate on the other items?
>Spend some time on the subject matter first before engaging keyboard in the
>future.
I will surely continue to do that.
Gruß
Wolfgang

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Petri Rehtonen - 06 Feb 2005 09:41 GMT
>>There is nothing worse than the uneducated opinion on a subject Wolfgang.
>>None of your points are valid and are all untrue.
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> I will surely continue to do that.
Now this was civilised answer from you Wolfgang to not so civilised
posting and thank you for that. Furthermore, I really think that there
are better ways to pre-heat the car and it is never good idea to let the
engine run without observation. I have a suspicion that these kind of
devices (remote start) are forbidden atleast here in Finland (were the
need is true) as I have never heard anybody using them.
To the original poster: evaluate other choices.

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AustinMini.OsiTech.Net - 06 Feb 2005 15:09 GMT
Petri, civility is relative. I have no patience for dissemination of wrong
information and thus have no obligation to be civil to you but yes Wolfgang
respond admirably but you are a flame fanning moron. There are no better
alternative. The original poster wasn't asking for your sermon he was merely
asking for how it should be done to an A6.
If you don't want to do it to your car that is fine, some of us are using it
for years with no issues.
Get your head out of your arse. Now how is that for uncivility - lol.

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>>>There is nothing worse than the uneducated opinion on a subject Wolfgang.
>>>None of your points are valid and are all untrue.
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> To the original poster: evaluate other choices.
Wolfgang Pawlinetz - 06 Feb 2005 07:37 GMT
>Wolfgang writes:
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>drive the car. Friends have one installed in their RS6 and checked with their
>insurance company before installation. Insurance company okayed it.
I stand corrected. I must have misunderstood your comment referring to
"After 2002, Audi put a chip in all keys and you need to be able to
over-ride that by using the valet key in the installation"
>I do not have one installed in my RS6 because it sits in a relatively warm
>garage, but I have family and friends that use them and swear by them.
I don't argue that they don't work. I just think there are better
options but..
>The original question was can they be installed in 2002 - 05 Audis, and the
>answer is yes, but it is best done by a professional installer. Different
>strokes for different folks, Wolfgang.
..that is correct :-)
Gruß
Wolfgang

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