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Stef - 30 Nov 2005 13:52 GMT
just got an audi a6 its my first audi and i wish i had got one long ago but
can anyone answer a couple of questions please..
there are 2 rear fog light lenses either side of the number plate but only
one light comes on is this correct the garage tell me it is.
what is the asr how and when should it be used..
its the 2.5 tdi v6 1999 how often should i change the oil and get a service
done..

is there anything i should watch out for or should do to keep this car in
good condition.
unfortunatley i never got a user manual with it so also if anyone as one i
would be will to but it off you
thanxs stef
Juan Hunglow - 30 Nov 2005 14:33 GMT
> just got an audi a6 its my first audi and i wish i had got one long ago
> but
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> would be will to but it off you
> thanxs stef

only one light should work, possibly something to do with clashing with
brake lights.

asr.......no idea what does it stand for

oil every 6k (diesel)

service, check manual (once you get one)

keep it garaged 100% of the time only take out to dust off or clean.

keep an eye on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-Owners-Manuals-and-Wallet-for-Audi-A6_W0QQitemZ459417
9064QQcategoryZ18334QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Wolfgang Pawlinetz - 30 Nov 2005 16:02 GMT
> oil every 6k (diesel)

15.000 km if it's not longlife. 35.000 km if it's longlife.

Wolfgang
Steve Sears - 30 Nov 2005 14:42 GMT
Stef,
The rear fog light on the driver's side should be the only one that turns on
with the switch - I don't know the logic behind it but that's the way it is.
I would suggest that you get an owner's manual from either your local
dealer, or eBay or somewhere else on the net - it will answer your asr and
maintenance intervals - I doubt that anyone here with one wants to have you
"but it off" them ;-).  You might want to hang out in the A6 forum on
www.audiworld.com (not sure if there's a .co.uk version) - there will be
lots of advice and BTDT's on there.  Since your car has a turbo, make sure
you use synthetic oil  and cool the turbo down after hard driving before you
shut down.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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> just got an audi a6 its my first audi and i wish i had got one long ago
> but
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> would be will to but it off you
> thanxs stef
Wolfgang Pawlinetz - 30 Nov 2005 14:47 GMT
> there are 2 rear fog light lenses either side of the number plate but only
> one light comes on is this correct the garage tell me it is.

I think they're right, I never checked on mine. Strange, hmm?

> what is the asr how and when should it be used..

Anti Schlupf Regelung
The ASR powers down the engine if the wheels loose grip on slippery
surfaces. Combined with the Electronic Differential lock (brakes the
spinning wheel using the brakes) it acts as a helper to get you moving
on snow. You don't have to switch it on. It's on all the time and if you
press the button it's OFF! An orange triangle will come on in the dash,
warning you about this. It's reset to ON automatically when you start
the engine the next time.

> its the 2.5 tdi v6 1999 how often should i change the oil and get a service
> done..

Uh well, depends. If it's on longlife service it should tell you. You
find out if it's on LLS either by asking a dealer to check up the car ID
(questionable, depending on the honesty of the dealer?) or by just
starting the engine and press the left knob in the instrument cluster
(car must be at standstill, otherwise you'll set a speedwarning
threshold with this action). A LLS car would report the remaining milage
to service (depending on the drivers driving habits).

> is there anything i should watch out for or should do to keep this car in
> good condition.

Check: MAF, front suspension and oilfilm on the engine.

For all three of them there is a service bulletin at Audi.
MAF: powerloss => replace MAF and disconnect post-shutdown heating of
the MAF
front suspension: some creaking because of increased play in the
bushings => dealer should check.
oilfilm on the engine: some series of the 2,5 150HP engines had the
crankshaft vent sized too small. There is a sieve in there which can get
 clogged by oilslug and then the pressure in the engine increases,
blowing oil out the seals. => Dealer can check, there's a service
bulletin and that should have been done quite early.

Once this is done IMO the car is rock solid and cheap to maintain, even
at the (austrian) dealer.

> unfortunatley i never got a user manual with it so also if anyone as one i
> would be will to but it off you

Sorry, mine is in german and I still need it :-)

regards

Wolfgang
Peter Bell - 30 Nov 2005 22:30 GMT
> there are 2 rear fog light lenses either side of the number plate but only
> one light comes on is this correct the garage tell me it is.

As others have said, this is correct - only the offside rear foglight is
functional.  This is, supposedly, safer because the brake lights should
be more obvious when there's only a single fog.

> what is the asr how and when should it be used..

anti-slip regulation (or the German equivalent, which Wolfgang has
given.  It's a simple form of traction control - it reduces engine power
when the driven wheels start to lose traction.  It is always on by
default - you turn it off by pressing the button and a light comes on
in the instrument console to warn you that it is disabled.  The only
time you might need to turn it off is when there is almost no traction
at all, and the only way to make progress is to keep the wheels
spinning.

> its the 2.5 tdi v6 1999 how often should i change the oil and get a service
> done..

A 1999 car probably isn't equipped for long life service.  Long Life
service came in with the 2000 model year, construction of which
started during 1999.  This will be determined from the VIN - if the
VIN is 4BYN 002888, or later, then it is eligible for long life service
(although this is not necessarily activated).  A 4BX.... VIN would
definitely not be long life.

You should find that the legends 'In1' or 'In2' come up in the odometer
(or is it the digital clock?) when a service is due. As far as I can
tell, the service interval should be 9,375 miles(15000kms) or 1 year.
If you email me the VIN I should be able to confirm the details.  

> is there anything i should watch out for or should do to keep this car in
> good condition.
> unfortunatley i never got a user manual with it so also if anyone as one i
> would be will to but it off you

In my experience, the Audi dealer price for printed manuals is very
reasonable (I bought a 230 page manual for the newer Nav system for less
than £6) - assuming that the manual is still available!

It might be worth trying VAG Parts (http://www.vagparts.co.uk).  They
usually offer a signifiacnt saving over dealer prices, although they do
have to charge postage.

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Juan Hunglow - 01 Dec 2005 07:08 GMT
>> there are 2 rear fog light lenses either side of the number plate but
>> only
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> usually offer a signifiacnt saving over dealer prices, although they do
> have to charge postage.

as for their pricing, I replaced both heated wing mirrors and bought them
from my local Audi dealer at £40 the pair.............vagparts want £60 +
postage.
Ronny - 30 Nov 2005 23:22 GMT
> just got an audi a6 its my first audi and i wish i had got one long ago
> but
> can anyone answer a couple of questions please..
> there are 2 rear fog light lenses either side of the number plate but only
> one light comes on is this correct the garage tell me it is.

You will most prob be able to just remove the cover on the back and fit a
bulb in, instantly giving you 2 x fog lights :)

You may have to open up the rear cover a little with a dremel to accomodate
the bulb, but it is a simple job, all the wiring and connectors should be in
there :P
Peter Bell - 30 Nov 2005 23:35 GMT
> You will most prob be able to just remove the cover on the back and fit a
> bulb in, instantly giving you 2 x fog lights :)
>
> You may have to open up the rear cover a little with a dremel to accomodate
> the bulb, but it is a simple job, all the wiring and connectors should be in
> there

I was certainly able to do this on my A4 (B5), but as far as I can tell,
the cabling just wasn't present on my old A6 (my2000) and isn't on my
current RS6 or wife's A2.

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Jone Tytlandsvik - 01 Dec 2005 08:14 GMT
> I was certainly able to do this on my A4 (B5), but as far as I can
> tell, the cabling just wasn't present on my old A6 (my2000) and isn't
> on my current RS6 or wife's A2.

Why would anyone want to do that?
If you drive behind a car with two foglights (japanese cars used to have
two) you will notice that your side vision does not respond as good as usual
to the brake light. You will have to focus your eyes on the car in front all
the time to notice when the brake lights come on. If there was only one fog
light, or even better; no foglight, you would notice the brake light even if
you looked to the side as you sometimes have to do in traffic. Wrong use og
foglights has probably caused more accidents than correct use has prevented.

Jone T.
Ronny - 01 Dec 2005 15:04 GMT
>> I was certainly able to do this on my A4 (B5), but as far as I can
>> tell, the cabling just wasn't present on my old A6 (my2000) and isn't
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Jone T.

Define correct use?

UK cars have always had 2 x rear fog lights, it's only recently we have seen
cars come with oinly 1 foglight, so we are used to having 2, and why are
most cars still pre-wired for 2.

If you think the use of no fog lights would allow you too see the brake
lights better then you need to re-take your test.

Foglights are there to allow you to see a car further ahead, when the brake
light is on it would normally be too late, especially in fog.
Steve E. - 01 Dec 2005 21:11 GMT
In the states correct use of foglights I believe occurs when visibility is
less than 100 ft. Common sense would dictate their use when you can's
clearly see the car in front at a reasonable distance

>>> I was certainly able to do this on my A4 (B5), but as far as I can
>>> tell, the cabling just wasn't present on my old A6 (my2000) and isn't
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> Foglights are there to allow you to see a car further ahead, when the
> brake light is on it would normally be too late, especially in fog.
Stef - 01 Dec 2005 16:20 GMT
thanxs for all your eplies they have been a great help  i never meant to
cause an arguement over fog lights though ;o) i do have another question
though the oil indicator on the dashboard goes all the way over to the red
mark i think it on 180 degrees or something is this correct
thanxs stef
> just got an audi a6 its my first audi and i wish i had got one long ago but
> can anyone answer a couple of questions please..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> would be will to but it off you
> thanxs stef
Sami Heikkinen - 02 Dec 2005 16:59 GMT
You mean oil temperature? There is definitely something wrong if yours is
showing 180 degrees celsius. My temperature meter starts from 60 degrees,
and normal is somewhere around 80 degrees when engine is warm, if I remember
correct. Could the oil temperature sensor be faulty? I don't know where it
gets the reading .

Regards, Sami

> thanxs for all your eplies they have been a great help  i never meant to
> cause an arguement over fog lights though ;o) i do have another question
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>> would be will to but it off you
>> thanxs stef
Steve Sears - 02 Dec 2005 19:48 GMT
Sami,
I believe that the normal oil temperature should be over 100 degrees to burn
off condensation and the like.  80C sounds more like coolant than oil temp.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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> You mean oil temperature? There is definitely something wrong if yours is
> showing 180 degrees celsius. My temperature meter starts from 60 degrees,
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>>> would be will to but it off you
>>> thanxs stef
Pete - 02 Dec 2005 21:24 GMT
> I believe that the normal oil temperature should be over 100 degrees to
> burn off condensation and the like.  80C sounds more like coolant than oil
> temp.

It doesn't take 100 deg. C for water to start evaporating.  I mean, leave a
glass of water in a room temperature, and it'll eventually evaporate, too.

FYI, the oil in my 1.8T engine (A4) always ran at about 80-85 deg. C.  I had
the used oil analyzed many times, and it never indicated that water was
present.  I kept asking my dealer and AoA about this temp, and they always
said that this temp falls well in what they consider "normal" operating
range.

Regards,

Pete
Jay Somerset - 02 Dec 2005 23:13 GMT
> > I believe that the normal oil temperature should be over 100 degrees to
> > burn off condensation and the like.  80C sounds more like coolant than oil
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> said that this temp falls well in what they consider "normal" operating
> range.

I don't think so!  This is the normal temp range for coolant, not oil.  Oil
should be significanbtly hotter than your coolant, in ANY 4-cycle gas
engine.  Diesels -- perhaps a bit cooler than gas, but not below the coolant
temp.

> Regards,
>
> Pete

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Jay Somerset - 02 Dec 2005 23:11 GMT
120 C is the normal temp for oil in a fully warmed up engine while being
driven on the highway at 2000-3000 rpm (most vehicles).  This corresponds to
about 250 F.  It should *definitely* be well above 100C (212F)!

> Sami,
> I believe that the normal oil temperature should be over 100 degrees to burn
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> >>> would be will to but it off you
> >>> thanxs stef

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Pete - 02 Dec 2005 23:20 GMT
> 120 C is the normal temp for oil in a fully warmed up engine while being
> driven on the highway at 2000-3000 rpm (most vehicles).

Can you please provide a reputable source for this information?

Thanks,

Pete
Sara4974 - 05 Dec 2005 08:27 GMT
A w e s o m e

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seaspray7@optonline.net - 19 Dec 2005 18:37 GMT
Yes, only one light works - I don not know the logic behind it(maybe
people find it odd and pay more attention) but the left rear light is
the only one that comes on.
 
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