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Car Forum / Audi Cars / September 2006

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Program Key Remote

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cnorth@myutahagent.com - 01 Sep 2006 18:37 GMT
Hi guys..

    I was wondering if there was a way to program a key remote if you
don't have  another key.  I have read a couple places that it can
easilly be done with another key, but I do not have one.  Any ideas?

BTW...I have a 98 Audi A4 2.8 if that matters.  Thanks!!!!!!
NUFFSNUFF@AOL.COM - 01 Sep 2006 20:43 GMT
> Hi guys..
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> BTW...I have a 98 Audi A4 2.8 if that matters.  Thanks!!!!!!

I had similar problem when I bought a '99 A3 1.8se which came with just
one 'flip' key remote and no other keys.

It's  easy enough to get a second key mechanically cut: keycutters on
[uk] Ebay can do this from a good digital pic. and can provide the VAG
key code for your own key. Ebay will also provide [eg from Hong Kong]
blaanks of VAG key blades [eg mine was HAA type] which local mechanical
keycutters will cut [cutting an own-supply blank costs.
me GBP 5.00 locally].

This will provide a second mechanical key blank which will unlock your
doors if manually inserted or which can be used as the second
mechanical key you'll need to program a remote 'flip' key to unlock
your central locking. AFAIK this is fairly easy to do if you do have
two keys but you'll struggle if you only have one cut-key.

BUT all the foregoing ONLY works to with the vehicle central locking
and with the ignition switch if you have a compatible key - if you need
a key which will actually work to start and run your vehicle AFAIK you
have no alternative but to get a VAG dealer to reprogram a VAG
transponder-type key to your particular own-vehicles ECU/immobilizer.

Thus, getting keys to work for door/central locking; ignition switch
and vehicle-running/operation are all ver distinct and separate issues
/ projects.

This just reflects personal and UK experience but HTH

David
cnorth@myutahagent.com - 01 Sep 2006 22:27 GMT
> > Hi guys..
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> David

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Hi and thanks for the reply.  Here is my situation.  I lost my key, so
I bought one on ebay.  It is a remote and switchblade style key.  I got
my keycode from Audi and had a local locksmith cut it.  I have tested
it and it works great.  Now I just need my remote to work (lock and
unlock the doors).  This is all I need to program.  My key does not
have a transponder in it.

Does this change anything, or make it easier for me?
daytripper - 01 Sep 2006 22:54 GMT
>> > Hi guys..
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>Does this change anything, or make it easier for me?

Your A4 doesn't sport the antitheft interlock that requires a key transponder.

If you now have two cut keys, one with the remote, the other without, there is
a procedure that you use with the remote key in the ignition and the other key
in the driver's side door lock. I can't remember the details but if you don't
get someone else to step in by the weekend I can read it off my owner's
manual...

/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
NUFFSNUFF@AOL.COM - 02 Sep 2006 09:35 GMT
> I bought one on ebay.  It is a remote and switchblade style key.  I got
> my keycode from Audi and had a local locksmith cut it.  I have tested
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>
> Does this change anything, or make it easier for me?

Hi

Unless you have another 'non-remote' key which will turn in the
ignition-lock, AFAIK you'll need to get another one cut.

Here's the procedure for programming remote[s] using one key ['valet
key' in this case] in ignition + however many remotes you need to
program [itself culled from another discussion forum]
HTH David
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1. Take the valet key, put it into the ignition and turn the key to the
"on" position, just prior to starting the car.

2. Roll down the driver's side window (not required, but a good idea in
case there's a problem).

3. Exit the car and close the door.

4. With a second key, physically lock the doors (don't use a remote).

5. Take the first remote to be programmed, press one of the buttons and
the lights will flash once. Wait 10 seconds and press the unlock
button. The doors should unlock. That first transmitter is now
programmed.

6. Lock the door again (physically) with the key, (not the remote).

7. Press one of the buttons twice, the lights will flash twice. Wait 10
seconds and press the unlock button. The doors should unlock. The
second transmitter is now programmed.

For a third transmitter press the button 3 times and for a fourth press
4 times.
gobraves - 21 Sep 2006 19:07 GMT
I followed this precedure and the locks work but the car will not
start.  Any suggestions?
2002 A6 4.2L

> > I bought one on ebay.  It is a remote and switchblade style key.  I got
> > my keycode from Audi and had a local locksmith cut it.  I have tested
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> For a third transmitter press the button 3 times and for a fourth press
> 4 times.
Peter Bell - 21 Sep 2006 22:42 GMT
> I followed this precedure and the locks work but the car will not
> start.  Any suggestions?
> 2002 A6 4.2L

Yes, you've coded the key transmitters to the central locking module.
Now you need to get the immobiliser transponder added into the table in
the instrument cluster.

Information can be found here:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/faq_4.html#skc

I'm afraid that it's most likely that you will need to go to your Audi
dealer (and pay!) to get this done.

> > > I bought one on ebay.  It is a remote and switchblade style key.  I got
> > > my keycode from Audi and had a local locksmith cut it.  I have tested
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> > For a third transmitter press the button 3 times and for a fourth press
> > 4 times.

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gobraves - 27 Sep 2006 20:50 GMT
Interesting thing is once programmed the car will start (albiet the
dash light for the key stays on) any number of times.  It stops the
first time you use the remote to open the doors or trunk.  Go figure.
I believe I will need to have this done at the dealers.
Thanks all.

> > I followed this precedure and the locks work but the car will not
> > start.  Any suggestions?
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> Peter Bell  (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
 
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