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Car Forum / Audi Cars / November 2006

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1990 Audi 100 fuel delivery problem

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dabanfield@hotmail.com - 16 Nov 2006 18:10 GMT
Going crazy here. My Audi 100 will not start after sitting a day or so
in damp weather. Cold weather is okay - it seems to be the moisture
that's killing me. Weird thing is, the ignition spark is fine, but fuel
is not reaching the cylinders. If I put a heat lamp under the hood for
an hour or so, it starts fine. This makes me think it's an electrical
problem related to fuel delivery - but not the fuel pump. I wanted to
try changing out the Engine Control Unit, but don't know where it is
located. Any advice? Thanks!
Tony - 18 Nov 2006 07:05 GMT
My first thought would be that you have a faulty contact in the fuel pump relay.

You might also have a sticky air metering plate. It is located just above the
air filter in the intake manifold. Reach in above the air filter and gently push
the plate upwards if it is sticky it might not move when cold and that will keep
the fuel from flowing to the injectors.

Faulty fuel frequency valve. You may want to look that up elsewhere. I only
suspect it but have no personal experience.

Also search on the differential fuel pressure switch. Located on the front of
the fuel distributor.

Also be sure you are not loosing vacuum from the decel valve located in the
fender beside the air cleaner.

T44s can be fun to find a problem like this but a bit of searching should solve
the problem. Test parts before throwing money at the problem.

You may want to search the history on AudiWorld.com T44 forum:
http://forums.audiworld.com/v8/

TonyJ
Former four T44s (last one '91 100QM)
current '04 A4 1.8TQM

> Going crazy here. My Audi 100 will not start after sitting a day or so
> in damp weather. Cold weather is okay - it seems to be the moisture
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> try changing out the Engine Control Unit, but don't know where it is
> located. Any advice? Thanks!
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 18 Nov 2006 19:45 GMT
I have only worked on one Audi 100 for a crank sprocket problem but here are
my other experiences.....
I have been replacing some faulty ign. coils in 94-98 Jettas.  The original
ign. coils fail due to moisture allowing the spark to short at the coil and
the aftermarket coils fail (quickly too) allowing a weak spark at the plug.
I would want to either see the spark your coil is producing or examine the
spark plugs to see if they are wet or dry?  A wide spark plug electrode gap
along with a weak spark might create problems in either cold or moist
conditions.  AFAIK The spark will change under compression too!
Of course the spark plug wires are also affected by moisture!

Have you replaced anything related to the ign. system recently?  Engine tune
or service?
Spark plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor should get changed
periodically.  ;-)

Also check in the Bentley for proper testing of the fuel delivery system.
I have seen bad or missing fuses cause the fuel not to flow.  ;-)

Moisture might affect the wiring terminals at the Coolant Temperature Sensor
for the Fuel Injection, the Fuel Pressure Regulator or maybe some ground
connections

Does your Audi have blink codes?

later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

> My first thought would be that you have a faulty contact in the fuel pump
> relay.
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>> try changing out the Engine Control Unit, but don't know where it is
>> located. Any advice? Thanks!
Tony - 18 Nov 2006 20:11 GMT
The '90 100 doesn't have coil packs. Main ign coil and plug wires.

He might want to try to test the cold start injector but routing 12V directly to
it while cranking to start.

Tony

> I have only worked on one Audi 100 for a crank sprocket problem but here are
> my other experiences.....
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>>>try changing out the Engine Control Unit, but don't know where it is
>>>located. Any advice? Thanks!
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 18 Nov 2006 20:47 GMT
WHAT???
Coil packs???
Who mentioned coil packs?
Get a rope!  lol

I should have indicated that these are NOT multicylinder coil packs nor
individual coil packs but are the almost regular ign coils you will find on
some of the '94-98 VW 2.0 engines.  These ign. coils should be similar to
what the 1990 Audi 100 is running.
I was trying to say that the spark has to be strong enough to fire the plugs
under compression.  ;-)

Good point on the cold start injector.  Is it powered by the starter or the
ECM/ECU?
This injector should have 2 wires going to it and you should make sure it
also has a ground connection if you are going to "hot" wire it.  ;-)

later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message

> The '90 100 doesn't have coil packs. Main ign coil and plug wires.
>
> He might want to try to test the cold start injector but routing 12V
> directly to it while cranking to start.
>
> Tony
Tony - 18 Nov 2006 22:14 GMT
> Good point on the cold start injector.  Is it powered by the starter or the
> ECM/ECU?

I think it is fired by the ECU if the MFTS indicates that the engine is in a
cold start condition.

> This injector should have 2 wires going to it and you should make sure it
> also has a ground connection if you are going to "hot" wire it.  ;-)
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>>
>>Tony
 
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