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Car Forum / Audi Cars / February 2007Worn out A6
I took the 99 A6 in for a recall fix and the dealer found nearly $4000 worth of work that was need on a car with just under 60,000 miles on it. Also, some of the repairs needed to be done before it would pass the state inspection. They said it was just worn out; that some go longer but nothing unusual. The repairs included; lower control arms-$670, tie rods- $490 - Timing belt- $1500, Suction jet pump- $850, Front propshaft seal -$485. My question to you is; can that be right? I wrote to the Audi of America but they did not respond. But I don't think that I could buy another Audi. Larry >I took the 99 A6 in for a recall fix and the dealer found nearly $4000 worth >of work that was need on a car with just under 60,000 miles on it. Also, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >they did not respond. But I don't think that I could buy another Audi. >Larry Have the dealer do *just* the recall. (They are required to do this, and cannot make a recall dependent on other non-warranty/non-recall replairs). Then take it to an honest, independent shop (that is good, and has a good reputation) and ask them to evaluate the other items. Then make a decision. Oh, and find a new dealer. <bg> >I took the 99 A6 in for a recall fix and the dealer found nearly $4000 >worth of work that was need on a car with just under 60,000 miles on it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > but they did not respond. But I don't think that I could buy another Audi. > Larry Lower control arms are a well known issue. Tie rods are possibly also affected. Propshaft seal could go and 60k is not unreasonable. Timing belt is a consumable which should be changed anywhere from 60k - 120k miles depending on engine. Somehow I feel that they are trying to fleece you so as has already been stated, get the recall done but go elsewhere for a second opinion Thanks, I got the wiring recall done and am thinking about getting a new car instead of spending $4000 on this one. Thanks, Larry >>I took the 99 A6 in for a recall fix and the dealer found nearly $4000 >>worth of work that was need on a car with just under 60,000 miles on it. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Somehow I feel that they are trying to fleece you so as has already been > stated, get the recall done but go elsewhere for a second opinion > Thanks, I got the wiring recall done and am thinking about getting a new car > instead of spending $4000 on this one. Yeah, because the new car will cost less than $4000, and have a timing belt that never needs to be replaced... No wonder so many people are in debt up to their eyeballs - if this is the kind of "thinking" that prevails. Of course, the Audi dealer did VAG no service by trying to belt this guy for $4000 of repairs, who knows how many of which were really necessary. The timing belt, yeah. But $1500 is WAY TOO DAMN MUCH to spend on that job. Still, are there people out there who are really this completely brain- dead? The mind boggles. E.P. >I took the 99 A6 in for a recall fix and the dealer found nearly $4000 worth >of work that was need on a car with just under 60,000 miles on it. Also, >some of the repairs needed to be done before it would pass the state >inspection. They said it was just worn out; that some go longer but nothing >unusual. I wouldn't call it worn 'out' After all, the car's almost 8 years old. >The repairs included; lower control arms-$670, tie rods- $490 - Timing belt- >$1500, Suction jet pump- $850, Front propshaft seal -$485. lower control arms and tie rods are common, timing belt is something you have to have done anyway. You can always decide if you want to buy a new car before every timing belt change or just have it done. Guess what's cheaper?. Suction jet pump and prop-shaft seal I don't know about. >My question to you is; can that be right? Yeah, completely right. >I wrote to the Audi of America but they did not respond. Err, well maintenance for an 8 year old car does include the odd bigger repair. For the record, I own a 99 A6 as well, 2,5 TDI, Avant. 100.000 miles on it and owned it since new. Had several lower control arms and tie rod ends, had one timing belt done at 75kmiles for ~700 Euros, thats around 900US$ right now, at the dealer. Had two sets of braking discs in the front and one in the rear. Worst that happened was a failed fuel injection pump a few months ago, meaning after more than 7 years and almost 100kmiles. Ouch on a TDI with those high pressure pumps. Cost me ~2.500 US$ at the dealer. Was still a good deal, bcause 8 weeks later the new pump went again. Obviously the second pump cost me nothing. In both cases I had a decent loaner free of charge, so I didn't worry. Sure, somewhen in the future the dampers need a change. That's most likely then a job for the independent. I need to fix a screw in the rear door lining too :-) I went through the maths that time. By no means it would make sense financially to buy a new car, even with those repairs. The car is mine, no debt. Dealer would offer ~14kUS$ for it if I trade it in. But most important: Every time I get in and drive it, it's a most pleasant feeling. :-) Wolfgang >>My question to you is; can that be right? > > Yeah, completely right. rrrrright... > In both cases I had a decent loaner free of charge, so I didn't worry. Hehehe... "free of charge" - and he thinks what he paid was reasonable. >>>My question to you is; can that be right? >> >> Yeah, completely right. > >rrrrright... Well, maybe not completely right, yes :-) The price for the belt change is quote high. I was mainly referring to the number of repairs. Don't get me wrong, I'd also try to find another dealer, because this one's too expensive, but I wanted to express that the car's not waste just because of those things. >> In both cases I had a decent loaner free of charge, so I didn't worry. > >Hehehe... "free of charge" - and he thinks what he paid was reasonable. Hmm. I think 900bucks including time and material for a V6TDI belt change is VERY reasonable. The independents wouldn't do it for that price. Not with waterpump and tensioner and all. W. >>>>My question to you is; can that be right? >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > W. Sorry mate, I was in a bad mood last night... I appreciate the input but these are items that need to be repaired to be safe. I see the big things like the engine, transmission, etc that will be next. Where does it end? Larry >>I took the 99 A6 in for a recall fix and the dealer found nearly $4000 >>worth [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Wolfgang > I appreciate the input but these are items that need to be repaired to be > safe. Says who? Take it to an independent to see if they even need to be done! Timing belt, yes - you're on-mileage for that one. The rest? Who knows? > I see the big things like the engine, transmission, etc that will be > next. How do you figure that? > Where does it end? When you don't own a car. Seriously. E.P. > > Where does it end? > > When you don't own a car. Seriously. > > E.P. or when you buy a honda civic. but who would do that to themselves? On Feb 23, 5:47 am, "tockeyhoc...@gmail.com" <tockeyhoc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Where does it end? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > or when you buy a honda civic. but who would do that to themselves? I've also heard the myth that Hondas never need repair or maintenance. Considering the number of Hondas I see in a local shop at any given time, I know for a fact that the myth is completely false. E.P. I am thinking Toyota. Thanks for all comments. Larry >> > Where does it end? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > or when you buy a honda civic. but who would do that to themselves? > I am thinking Toyota. Thanks for all comments. Larry Toyotas have very soft, long-travel suspensions. Test drive the car for at least 10 minutes in slow traffic to make sure the forwards/backwards rocking doesn't make you sick. If it doesn't, the Toyotas are generally great cars. > >> > Where does it end? > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > or when you buy a honda civic. but who would do that to themselves? Took the car for a second opinion at a independent garage and they agreed with dealer but would do the work for about half with parts from the dealer. Larry >I took the 99 A6 in for a recall fix and the dealer found nearly $4000 >worth of work that was need on a car with just under 60,000 miles on it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > but they did not respond. But I don't think that I could buy another Audi. > Larry |
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