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1993 Audi 80 front wing removal

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Grooove - 18 Apr 2007 20:28 GMT
I'm considering replacing the r/h front wing on my 80. It's the only part
with rust breaking through and also has a nasty dent that stops me
refitting the indicator moulding..

Could anyone point me to information about removing/refitting a wing
panel please?

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TonyJ - 18 Apr 2007 20:47 GMT
For those of us less familiar with the King's English: What is a wing panel?

> I'm considering replacing the r/h front wing on my 80. It's the only part
> with rust breaking through and also has a nasty dent that stops me
> refitting the indicator moulding..
>
> Could anyone point me to information about removing/refitting a wing
> panel please?
Bart Oleksy - 18 Apr 2007 20:57 GMT
> For those of us less familiar with the King's English: What is a wing
> panel?

Quarter-panel, perhaps?

>> I'm considering replacing the r/h front wing on my 80. It's the only
>> part with rust breaking through and also has a nasty dent that stops
>> me refitting the indicator moulding..
>> Could anyone point me to information about removing/refitting a wing
>> panel please?

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Alf.F - 18 Apr 2007 23:38 GMT
>For those of us less familiar with the King's English: What is a wing panel?
>
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>> Could anyone point me to information about removing/refitting a wing
>> panel please?

Let me guess.. rust .. old car ... wing ..
Where does rust mainly occur on old cars? Wheel..No.  Hood..No
Another clue was the dent. Where do these mostly occurs?
Indicators.. check your dad's car.
Front - the part in driving direction.
R/h - Indicates which side of car. Opposite of l/h.
To many clues and you was not able to do a clever guess?
English is not my native language either, but I have basic knowledge
about old cars, dents and rust. Wing panel seems to be a good
description of the actual part.
Hang on and you will learn a lot here.

/Alf
TonyJ - 19 Apr 2007 00:08 GMT
>>For those of us less familiar with the King's English: What is a wing panel?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> /Alf

Alf ...
Really. You haven't read your clues or history very well before responding. I
have been posting on here for about five years. I am 61 years old and my dad
doesn't drive anymore at 91 years old.

I have owned six Audis since 1986 and worked on them all. I also help a number
of friends on their Audis in addition to offering advice here and on AudiWorld
forums. I have replaced several front fenders on them. I have the information to
help the OP but wanted to be clear on  what part was been referred to.

At this point I will let you handle the reply. Hope you have the correct
experience for the reply.

You missed on your poorly thought out reply!
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 19 Apr 2007 02:00 GMT
After a very brief search on google.com...............
The front wing is sometimes called the front fender.  I learn something new
everyday!  <g>

http://www.nicedeals.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=74&osCsid=4b94901ee2ccfd
3ef4ee171317f078bf

or
http://tinyurl.com/2r6ulm

I think my '83 Audi 4000S could stand new R/H and L/H front wings too!  ;-)
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later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

Alf.F - 19 Apr 2007 04:19 GMT
>>>For those of us less familiar with the King's English: What is a wing panel?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>Alf ...
>Really. You haven't read your clues

I wrote them.

> or history very well before responding. I
>have been posting on here for about five years. I am 61 years old and my dad
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>forums. I have replaced several front fenders on them. I have the information to
>help the OP but wanted to be clear on  what part was been referred to.

I did belive you was joking. My english is poor but I had no problem
to understand very clear.

>At this point I will let you handle the reply. Hope you have the correct
>experience for the reply.

No experience at all but basic knowledge. Do not understand why you
hope that I should have experince.
I sold my garage 1980 due to allergy. Not against cars but most kinds
of soap and some kinds of oil. Dirty cars and no soap is not any good
combination. Have since not even repaired a bicycle.

My first reaction to the original posting was that if help was needed
for that simple thing, does he have any tools, knows anything about
needed rust coating, what type of gaskets to use, what to do with
bolts that gets broken and so on. It is a simple job but for a good
job is some experience and good tools needed.

A quick instruction how to replace front fender:
It is very simple, remove front wheel, direction indicator, inner
fender  and bumber in that order. It is possible to do the job without
removing bumber but it is a lot more complicated.
After that remove the fender. Just common tools needed, a metric
wrench set or a socket set (most bolts in the fender have 10 mm head,
if I remember right) and a big screwdriver. No hidden bolts but there
are some bolt behind the door that is a bit tricky to reach.
Hardest bit can be to make the new fender to fit nice. I prefer to
paint the fender before mounting but any mistakes during mounting can
be very visible.

>You missed on your poorly thought out reply!

Agree.

/Alf
Grooove - 19 Apr 2007 09:15 GMT
> A quick instruction how to replace front fender:

Wow, quite a discussion I sparked off there. Didn't expect that at all..

I guess the problems arise because of the different terminology in
different countries. The 'boot' in the UK is the 'trunk' in the USA.. etc
etc.

Thanks for the quick guide. I'm no auto engineer (actually I'm a plumber
who also builds computer systems) so I'm trying to find out if the job is
manageable by someone with reasonable technical skills.

Thanks for the info so far. Much appreciated.

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Grooove - 19 Apr 2007 09:17 GMT
> Thanks for the info so far. Much appreciated.

Oh yes, just to be absolutely clear. What we call the front wing in the
UK is the side panel over the front wheel.

:)

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TonyJ - 19 Apr 2007 21:38 GMT
>>Thanks for the info so far. Much appreciated.
>
> Oh yes, just to be absolutely clear. What we call the front wing in the
> UK is the side panel over the front wheel.
>
> :)

AKA >> fender.

I have changed several on T44 series and like mentioned before it is really
quite easy. The other post said that you do not need to remove the front bumper
but on the T44 series it need to be removed and I would think on your 80 as
well. Removing the bumpers is quite easy with two Allen bolts up from the bottom
of the bumper (again if the 80 is like the T44s and B5/B6 A4s). After these are
out disconnect turn signals and any plastic ducting and slide forward. Having a
friend help to hold it make it easier.

You might find one brazed connection in the front door hinge area that you will
need to cut with a chisel or dremel. this is not important to fasten on the new
one as it is probably used to improve the electrical ground to reduce corrosion.

Lining up the new fender is likely to be quite easy because Audi parts seem to
hold close tolerances.

Not counting any painting is necessary I would guess the job to take two hours.
Alf.F - 19 Apr 2007 21:35 GMT
>> A quick instruction how to replace front fender:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>who also builds computer systems) so I'm trying to find out if the job is
>manageable by someone with reasonable technical skills.

Then you probably already have needed tools. The replacement is done
in less then an hour.

/Alf
 
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