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Car Forum / Audi Cars / November 2007

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Audi A1 might come to USA

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sjmassey - 10 Nov 2007 01:52 GMT
Audi has announced that the 2009 A1 might come to the North American
market, even if the other compact A3 sport wagon does not sell that
well in here. "There is absolutely a potential for that kind of
vehicle in America,"

Read More: http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/audi-a1-might-come-to-usa-ar46960.html

I keep reading that petrol (Gas?) is getting expensive in the states.
But how much has it gone up in the last couple of years or so?

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Ronny - 10 Nov 2007 10:07 GMT
> Audi has announced that the 2009 A1 might come to the North American
> market, even if the other compact A3 sport wagon does not sell that
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> Audi NewsHub: Auto news sourced from websites, portals and blogs
> http://www.carshops247.co.uk/news/Audi.html

Well Petrol in the UK is now £1.02 a litre, that means it now costs to fill
up my  A4 £67

That is approx $140 per tank, when i last went to the states I think it cost
around $20 to fill up.
G-man uk - 10 Nov 2007 13:21 GMT
>> Audi has announced that the 2009 A1 might come to the North American
>> market, even if the other compact A3 sport wagon does not sell that
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> That is approx $140 per tank, when i last went to the states I think it
> cost around $20 to fill up.

I think it would probably be about double that now ($40).  All depends
on size of tank etc.

However, you might think you're hard done by on fuel, but the cost of
other basics such as electricity are very much higher than the UK.

Swings and roundabouts really.  Grass is not always greener etc etc
Ronny - 10 Nov 2007 23:08 GMT
>>> Audi has announced that the 2009 A1 might come to the North American
>>> market, even if the other compact A3 sport wagon does not sell that
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>
> Swings and roundabouts really.  Grass is not always greener etc etc

Very much higher?

Explain....

Our price for a "small" house is £600 a year for electicity, remember we
dont have stuff like swimming pools and air con, big fridges etc, so thats
over $1200 a year, how much do you pay?

We also pay £1500 / $3000 a year in council tax, Car Tax £200 / $400 a year.

I was just looking at the price Audi are going to charge us for the R8,
which looks like £77,000 for the base model, this compares to US price of
$102,000

With the current exchange rate, that is $154,000 an increase of some $52,000
and we live closer so it should cost less to import, especially as we are
part of the European Union.

So you pay $40 for gas, I fill up every week so 52 x £70 = £3640 / $7300 a
YEAR just in fuel to get to work

It sucks to live here lol, but hey someone has too :)

Oh and just on a side note, a house in the UK for a small 2 bed shitty
terraced is £130,000 which means alot of  people here now pay nearly £1000 a
month just in mortgage payments alone.
G-man uk - 11 Nov 2007 19:35 GMT
>>> Well Petrol in the UK is now £1.02 a litre, that means it now costs
>>> to fill up my  A4 £67
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> dont have stuff like swimming pools and air con, big fridges etc, so
> thats over $1200 a year, how much do you pay?

Actually, I'm in the UK not the US, but I can tell you though, that a
friend of mine in Texas pays around $1000-1200 a *month* for electricity
and I don't believe this is unique.  He doesn't have a swimming pool but
air-con is a must.  The house is about the size of a 4 bed detached here.

> We also pay £1500 / $3000 a year in council tax, Car Tax £200 / $400 a
> year.

Your council tax is really a payment for bin collections, sewage charges
etc.  Americans have a similar tax too.

> I was just looking at the price Audi are going to charge us for the R8,
> which looks like £77,000 for the base model, this compares to US price
> of $102,000

The base model is more like £70k or at least it was on the price list I
saw.  There are other taxes to add to the $102k, much the same as we
have here, although you are right, it is a bit more expensive here.
Great car though.

> With the current exchange rate, that is $154,000 an increase of some
> $52,000 and we live closer so it should cost less to import, especially
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> a YEAR just in fuel to get to work
> It sucks to live here lol, but hey someone has too :)

Also, how much do you pay for medical costs?  I for one am very grateful
for the NHS.  If I moved to the US, I wouldn't get insurance because of
pre-existing conditions.  If I did, then for a family of 4 you're
looking at around $400-500+ a MONTH.  I don't think I would be able to
survive without insurance.

> Oh and just on a side note, a house in the UK for a small 2 bed shitty
> terraced is £130,000 which means alot of  people here now pay nearly
> £1000 a month just in mortgage payments alone.

You should be able to get cheaper payments than that, even with the
current UK interest rate.  Probably about 20% cheaper.

Everything has to be taken in perspective, by looking at the big
picture, things are not as one-sided as they may first appear.

Still, the A1 looks a fantastic car and is definitely needed in the "A"
series line up.
Mike Smith - 18 Nov 2007 18:42 GMT
> X-no-archive: yes
>
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> and I don't believe this is unique.  He doesn't have a swimming pool but
> air-con is a must.  The house is about the size of a 4 bed detached here.

Texas is rather an extreme case for electricity, since in many places
air conditioning is required 24/7.  Here in New York, with air
conditioning and electric hot water, I pay about $200 a month on average.

>> We also pay £1500 / $3000 a year in council tax, Car Tax £200 / $400 a
>> year.
>
> Your council tax is really a payment for bin collections, sewage charges
> etc.  Americans have a similar tax too.

Yes, but it's nowhere *near* $3000 a year.  *Maybe* as much as $300.
And there are no "car taxes", in NY there is a registration fee of about
$50 a year.

> Also, how much do you pay for medical costs?  I for one am very grateful
> for the NHS.  If I moved to the US, I wouldn't get insurance because of
> pre-existing conditions.  If I did, then for a family of 4 you're
> looking at around $400-500+ a MONTH.

So?  As you said, things balance out.  Yes, that's probably about what
you'd pay for health insurance.  And maybe electricity is more
expensive.  Meanwhile, you'd probably be paying a top income tax rate
(i.e. only on the highest few thousand dollars of your income) of 28%
(15% on the rest), 0-8% sales tax (depending on which state) instead of
- what, 18% VAT?, land and houses are cheaper, cars are cheaper (both in
price and taxes), food is generally cheaper, just about everything is,
really.

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Mike Smith
G-man uk - 18 Nov 2007 19:00 GMT
>As you said, things balance out.  

Exactly.
Ronny - 18 Nov 2007 19:09 GMT
>> X-no-archive: yes
>>
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> --
> Mike Smith

Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI

As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees

So say £250 a month, that's $500

And tax at 22%
G-man uk - 18 Nov 2007 21:59 GMT
> Don't forget we do pay for health insurance it's called NI
>
> As a contractor I pay 2 lots of NI, so that's Employers and Employees
> So say £250 a month, that's $500
> And tax at 22%

There's lots of different variables when it comes to paying and saving
tax, thats just one situation.  Everyone is different.  Income tax
starts at 10% for example.

When you weigh up all the options, for some it works out cheaper in the
US, for some the UK wins out.  As much as I love the place, I personally
couldn't move to the USA because I wouldn't get health insurance, so I
feel very happy that everything here is free for me, something I'd end
up paying $100's a month in prescription costs for.

Anyway, the original post was about the A1, a very stylish little motor
that I can't wait to see 'in the flesh'.  Of course, it remains to be
seen what will remain of the original concept.  Would be a shame to
stick the UK licence plate across that front grill though!
Mike Smith - 18 Nov 2007 18:33 GMT
>> Audi has announced that the 2009 A1 might come to the North American
>> market, even if the other compact A3 sport wagon does not sell that
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> That is approx $140 per tank, when i last went to the states I think it
> cost around $20 to fill up.

That must have been some time ago.  Filling up my Passat costs about
$55.  Premium (e.g. 98 RON) fuel costs around $3.60-$3.65 in the
metropolitan NYC area.

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Mike Smith
 
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