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Car Forum / Audi Cars / April 2008

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Audi A6 2000 engine won'e start!

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methead@gmail.com - 21 Apr 2008 02:34 GMT
Bought a 2000 Audi A6 two days ago, with 70,000 miles on it. The car
was running great till a few hours back when I parked it and got out
of the car. I saw a parking spot closer to my apartment so decided to
go back and park the car there. To my astonishment, the car completely
refused to start!! It was working fine 5 minutes ago, and now its not
starting at all. The engine is not even trying to start. There is a
yellow check light on the display with something which looks like a
engine with a slash across it. I have no clue what to do. I have 3
month dealer warranty, would the repair cost be covered by it or would
this be something major?

Are there any buttons/switches in the inside which I could have
pressed to stop the engine from starting??

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
TonyJ - 21 Apr 2008 03:30 GMT
You didn't do anything wrong. There is an error in some component that
the CEL (check engine light) is indicating. You need an OBD2 interface
and computer of device to pull the actual code of the failure to know
where to start.

Its not clear from your description if the engine is turning over but
the engine is failing to start or if the engine is not even turning
over. If the latter, you may just have a battery failure due to an
internal short and it may start after a few hours or the next day. If
the latter, it will happen again and again ... until you get a new
battery. Dealer might cover it.

The problem, minor or major, should be covered by the dealer warranty.
You should call them to see if they will pay towing also. If it is a
quattro DO NOT allow it to be towed like a regular car. It must be
loaded on a flat bed trailer to transport. Towing on a dolly can be
extremely expensive and probably ruin the car.

One thing that you might try is to disconnect the battery for a minute
to reset the system. Do no t do this unless you know for sure that you
have the radio reset code in the owners manual. It is unique to each
individual radio and car.

> Bought a 2000 Audi A6 two days ago, with 70,000 miles on it. The car
> was running great till a few hours back when I parked it and got out
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> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
tpow - 21 Apr 2008 06:52 GMT
> Bought a 2000 Audi A6 two days ago, with 70,000 miles on it. The car
> was running great till a few hours back when I parked it and got out
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> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I think the first thing would be to contact the seller..............let them
sort it out.

Don't change anything yourself, don't spend more money, its their problem.
Dave LaCourse - 21 Apr 2008 11:49 GMT
>Are there any buttons/switches in the inside which I could have
>pressed to stop the engine from starting??

No.

>Any help would be greatly appreciated!

When you try to start the engine, does the starter motor sound normal,
or is it more of a high pitched sound like it is not encountering any
resistance?  If the latter, you have dropped (broken) a timing belt.
I have heard of them breaking as the engine is shut off.  If they
break while the engine is running, the pistons will eat all the
valves.

If you have a good warranty, this repair should be the responsibility
of whomever sold you the car.  If valves are broken, it can be
expensive.  (Been there with a '94 S4 that ate all 20 sodium filled
valves, plus a bent cam shaft when I encountered a big deer one lonely
night!)

Good luck.

Dave
tpow - 21 Apr 2008 18:28 GMT
>>Are there any buttons/switches in the inside which I could have
>>pressed to stop the engine from starting??
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> Dave

My 97 A4 V6 has an inherent problem that I have lived with for a few years.

If I start the engine from cold and then switch it off almost immediately it
just will not start unless,

1. I disconnect the battery for a minute or so.
2. I keep winding and winding while pumping the throttle. It will
eventually, 3, 4, 5 minutes start to fire and pick up.

While doing 2 the engine sounds like there is no compression and to be
honest it sounds like its not turning over at all............but it must be.

I strongly believe its one of the numerous sensors in the system that
requires replacing but knowing any dealership they will change the wrong
ones first so as to get as much dosh out me before they change the culprit.
So much for the OBD system for finding the fault.

I had the timing belt and all other goodies changed out 20K back.

dj
Dave LaCourse - 21 Apr 2008 18:34 GMT
>While doing 2 the engine sounds like there is no compression and to be
>honest it sounds like its not turning over at all..

Bad bendix gear?
TonyJ - 21 Apr 2008 19:14 GMT
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>> While doing 2 the engine sounds like there is no compression and to be
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If it is turning over it might be a bad coolant temperature sensor.
Maybe leaking injectors?
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 22 Apr 2008 04:02 GMT
I listened to a V6 engine that did not start.  It sounded like it had no
compression similar to breaking a timing belt.

The owner was told by the dealer that the engine was flooded.
So I agree about maybe changing that coolant sensor.
Maybe spark plugs also!

>>> While doing 2 the engine sounds like there is no compression and to be
>>> honest it sounds like its not turning over at all..
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> If it is turning over it might be a bad coolant temperature sensor. Maybe
> leaking injectors?
tpow - 22 Apr 2008 06:01 GMT
>>> While doing 2 the engine sounds like there is no compression and to be
>>> honest it sounds like its not turning over at all..
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> If it is turning over it might be a bad coolant temperature sensor. Maybe
> leaking injectors?

Tony, do you know where it is located and what it looks like so I can change
it myself.

and dave AKA conclusion just might be right.

dj
TonyJ - 22 Apr 2008 07:41 GMT
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I am not sure on the V6. but you could visit www.audiworld.com and
search the archives for your year and model. You will probably be able
to find DIY threads and may also have pictures.
TonyJ - 22 Apr 2008 08:01 GMT
Found a link for the coolant sensor DIY:
http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng108.shtml

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> dj
Graz - 22 Apr 2008 16:20 GMT
>Found a link for the coolant sensor DIY:
>http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng108.shtml

It's possible that "tpow" is in the UK and has a 2.6 litre V6 (code
ABC engine) which is different to the 2.8 litre.  I'd look on
vagcat.com for the position of the sensor(s).

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>> dj
tpow - 22 Apr 2008 17:28 GMT
>>Found a link for the coolant sensor DIY:
>>http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng108.shtml
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>>> dj

Thanks Tony and Graz you are correct, 2.4 V6 I will look where you say
Graz - 22 Apr 2008 18:10 GMT
>>>Found a link for the coolant sensor DIY:
>>>http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng108.shtml
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>Thanks Tony and Graz you are correct, 2.4 V6 I will look where you say

I have a similar problem with a V6:  operating temperature doesn't go
above 70 deg C and idle speed in Neutral is around 1000 rpm.   I
suspect one of the temp senders.
 
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