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Car Forum / Audi Cars / August 2008

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Need Receipts for Warranty

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jlandon78@gmail.com - 07 Aug 2008 17:41 GMT
Hi Everyone...

I am in desperate need of some help. I own a 2004 Audi A4 1.8 Turbo
that is currently in need of new engine. The engine hasn't been
receiving the oil properly and therefore should be covered under my
extended warranty for a replacement. I have provided my dealer with
the appropriate receipts showing that I had oil changes done every
10,000 miles but they are also requesting receipts for the oil and oil
filters I purchased.( I supplied these items to my mechanic). Of
course I paid cash for the oil and filters and no longer have the
receipts and of course without them I will not be covered under the
warranty. Therfore, I need HELP!!

Anyone out there have receipts of oil and oil filters that I can
use???? I will pay for them, I just need them imdiatley so I can get
my car back!! I am a single mom and have no idea how I can even
possibly come up with the $9000 they are asking for to repair my
engine. Any receipts will help! Please contact me!

Thank you!!!
Bill - 07 Aug 2008 17:59 GMT
Sounds like a scam to me...

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> Thank you!!!
Mike - 07 Aug 2008 18:42 GMT
> Hi Everyone...
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> Thank you!!!

I presume they require those receipts to prove you used the correct
grade of oil and changed the filter.

Mike
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 08 Aug 2008 00:50 GMT
Hmmm if you are in CA and the receipts seem to come from all parts of the
country or the world, that would seem weird!
Also you would need to include the dates that you claimed you had the oil
changed or purchased the oil.
Where did you purchase the oil and filters from?
Try to remember when you bought the parts and where.  Maybe that store can
get you some receipts.
Your mechanic should be able to produce all of the receipts that you need.
The dealer WILL check out your evidence!

This is a harsh lesson that everyone needs to pay heed to!  :-(
ALWAYS KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS!!!!  PAY WITH CREDIT CARDS OR CHECKS!!!

BTW 10,000 miles between oil changes seems a little too long to me.

JMHO

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Steve Daniels - 08 Aug 2008 00:59 GMT
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:50:51 -0500, against all advice, something
compelled "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nospam@pleasehotmail.com>, to
say:

>    BTW 10,000 miles between oil changes seems a little too long to me.

Me too, but my Audi dealer says that's the service interval for
my '04 TT.  I stared at him is slack jawed amazement and asked
him if he was kidding, but no.  Ten grand between changes.

Ich libe mine Audi.
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"The ABS system can not overcome the laws of physics."

Audi Owner's Manual

dave AKA vwdoc1 - 08 Aug 2008 04:11 GMT
But your TT is slightly different and holds 0.5 quarts more AFAIK since the
engine is transversely mounted.  ;-)
With the sludge problems the 1.8t engine has had, I am surprised the oil
change interval is 10K miles.
AND if you can't prove the oil changes that have been done when you need
them...................Well  8^o
You have to use the proper oil too!
I bought my A4 with a bad engine due to the oil cooler seal blowing.
Today I see another 1.8t engine gone bad due to the improper oil,
non-synthetic.  Now the owner has to sell his '01 Passat for whatever he can
get since engines cost too much $$$$ for the average person.  SAD!
Signature

later,
(One out of many daves)
1997 Red A4 1.8tq auto

> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:50:51 -0500, against all advice, something
> compelled "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nospam@pleasehotmail.com>, to
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> Ich libe mine Audi.
Steve Daniels - 08 Aug 2008 06:02 GMT
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:11:56 -0500, against all advice, something
compelled "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1nospam@pleasehotmail.com>, to
say:

>    But your TT is slightly different and holds 0.5 quarts more AFAIK since the
>    engine is transversely mounted.  ;-)

My TT is way different, as it is constructed entirely out of sex.

>    With the sludge problems the 1.8t engine has had, I am surprised the oil
>    change interval is 10K miles.

Maybe.  I held out for the 3.2.

>    AND if you can't prove the oil changes that have been done when you need
>    them...................Well  8^o
>    You have to use the proper oil too!

I'm having then all done at the dealer.  I don't care if it costs
a little more.  I mean, come on.  There's a reason I didn't get a
Toyota.

>    I bought my A4 with a bad engine due to the oil cooler seal blowing.
>    Today I see another 1.8t engine gone bad due to the improper oil,
>    non-synthetic.  Now the owner has to sell his '01 Passat for whatever he can
>    get since engines cost too much $$$$ for the average person.  SAD!

If I had a 1.8 engine, I'd probably be real careful about keeping
up with the maintenance, and I'd leave no record unrecorded.
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Ronny - 08 Aug 2008 15:51 GMT
> But your TT is slightly different and holds 0.5 quarts more AFAIK since
> the engine is transversely mounted.  ;-)
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>> Ich libe mine Audi.

20,000 mile oil changes sometimes 30k miles, 2003 1.8T quattro A4, I now
have 180,000 miles on the clock and it still drives like new, is this oil
sludge thing an American thing :)
Bill - 08 Aug 2008 16:46 GMT
> 20,000 mile oil changes sometimes 30k miles, 2003 1.8T quattro A4, I now
> have 180,000 miles on the clock and it still drives like new, is this oil
> sludge thing an American thing :)

Yes, we have been programmed to every 3k. Cheaply built motors leaked like
there is no tomorrow.

Since synthetic (majority of Americans fear) the mileage has increased.

I get 10k on my new Avalanche.
Mike - 08 Aug 2008 17:35 GMT
>> 20,000 mile oil changes sometimes 30k miles, 2003 1.8T quattro A4, I now
>> have 180,000 miles on the clock and it still drives like new, is this oil
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> I get 10k on my new Avalanche.

Every car (all European) I have ever owned over the last 20 years have
had 10/12k or 12 mths whichever is sooner.  Not one ever had the
slightest problem with the engine, although a couple made up for that in
other areas!

My 2003 A4 diesel has variable interval which I believe is upto 24k
miles however I favour 12 mthly fixed intervals because of the age and
it's used for mainly town driving.  Audi specify fully synthetic 0w30
for the variable servicing and 5w30 for fixed interval.

They'll want to see the OP receipts for this as a lower specification
could cause engine damage, it's often blamed for sludge build ups in
engines.

Mike
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 08 Aug 2008 17:45 GMT
Yep cheap American motor oil!

>> 20,000 mile oil changes sometimes 30k miles, 2003 1.8T quattro A4, I now
>> have 180,000 miles on the clock and it still drives like new, is this oil
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> I get 10k on my new Avalanche.
Bill - 08 Aug 2008 19:38 GMT
I don't think it was the oil, it was the tolerances the engines were built
to.
Mass produced junk.
I have to admit they have gotten better in the last couple of years.

> Yep cheap American motor oil!
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>> I get 10k on my new Avalanche.
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 09 Aug 2008 03:21 GMT
then why is specific oil needed and most of it is non-American oil?  Most
"common" brand oil, if not all, are European blends such as the Mobil 1
0W-40.
Some oils just can't take the heat from the turbo and the inline 1.8t
engines could use more quantity ( = larger oil filter) along with quality!
IMHO the 1.8t engine is well built as are most of the VW engines I have
worked on!

Why do you think the tolerances are bad?  Oil consumption?

>I don't think it was the oil, it was the tolerances the engines were built
>to.
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>>> I get 10k on my new Avalanche.
Mike - 09 Aug 2008 09:07 GMT
> then why is specific oil needed and most of it is non-American oil?  Most
> "common" brand oil, if not all, are European blends such as the Mobil 1
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> Why do you think the tolerances are bad?  Oil consumption?

I thought bill was refering to american built engines.

Mike
Bill - 09 Aug 2008 11:23 GMT
Yes, American.
Cheaply built engines.

>> then why is specific oil needed and most of it is non-American oil?  Most
>> "common" brand oil, if not all, are European blends such as the Mobil 1
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> Mike
Mike - 09 Aug 2008 12:18 GMT
> Yes, American.
> Cheaply built engines.
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>> Mike

Why do they put up with it?

I have owned 8 european cars over the last 20 years, all bar 1 purchased
use with between 25 and 80k on the clock. None have had any engine
trouble except a fiat with a minor oil leak from the sump gasket.

I had a Rover diesel (peugeot based engine), now driven by my brother
which has 130k on the clock which has had no engine problems in 11
years.  There's only a slight loss of performance & economy from when I
bought it 110k miles and 10 years ago.  These aren't easy motorway
miles, most of it is around town and the A+B roads of the midlands.

With the availability of imports inc Japanese I cannot understand how
the American car manufacturers are still in business.

Mike
dave AKA vwdoc1 - 09 Aug 2008 18:55 GMT
OOPS then I stand corrected and we are all on the same page!  :-)

> Yes, American.
> Cheaply built engines.
Roscoe P Pendoscoe - 20 Aug 2008 12:26 GMT
>Hmmm if you are in CA and the receipts seem to come from all parts of the
>country or the world, that would seem weird!
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>BTW 10,000 miles between oil changes seems a little too long to me.

You might ask your mechanic to provide a statement that you provided
the correct items. Have it notarized. This may be OK, maybe not but it
is your best bet.

An oil change is fairly inexpensive and taking it in to a certified
shop for your future changes might be prudent. Live and learn. And as
others said, I'd change the oil more frequently. Like 5000 max.

Roscoe aka MrShade

Knowledge is like money, the less you talk about it
the more people assume you have.
 
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