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Car Forum / Audi Cars / November 20082009 Audi's with manual gearbox
I'm in upstate New York. Here, it appears to be impossible to get a 2009 Audi with a manual gearbox. I'm told by the local dealer that the 2--9 A4 with V6 will not be available at all with a manual, and I could get an A5 (I test drove one, with paddles, recently) with a manual only if I was willing to wait 6 months. Nobody around these parts has even a TT with a manual. Is this the same everywhere? Steve > Is this the same everywhere? I don't know about the TT, but it is true that the new B8 A4 debuted here in the States with slushbox only, which is a shame. The 2.0T manual is a few months away from what I hear... Pete Steve Thompson;90395 Wrote: > I'm in upstate New York. Here, it appears to be impossible to get > 2009 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Steve Hey Steve, just go n ask 'www.autopartsway.ca ' (http://www.autopartsway.ca), hope you will get what you want. parts availability and deliver service is good, ihave experienced my self :- -- Mathew > I'm in upstate New York. Here, it appears to be impossible to get a 2009 > Audi with a manual gearbox. I'm told by the local dealer that the 2--9 A4 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Steve Audi is pushing their DSG transmissions. On the positive side, they lack a torque converter so they have none of the power loss or power lag of normal automatics. Sequential shifting is instant. On the down side, random access shifting is very slow. If the control unit thinks 6th is next but you hit the gas for 2nd, the engine idles for a second before kicking in. A hard stop at 30MPH leaves you waiting in neutral while the transmission goes "clunk-clunk-clunk" to reach 1st. There's a sport mode that causes the control unit to assume that the next gear is down. It will drop a gear on the slightest change of speed and it hesitates to upshift. Existing limits still apply - you are in neutral for two seconds after shifting from 'D' to 'S'.  SignatureGoogle is a pro-spamming service. I will not see your reply if you use Google. Sad to say that even in Canada where driving with a manual improves performance in bad weather, Audi does not offer it on any of their A4 and RS4. How come ? I have an Audi 80 with manual in Europe and it is great in any circumstances. This means that there is not enough guys to buy these cars for what they really offer in terms of pure driving quality. Too many people to buy them for the looks (can you be more perfect than an Audi 80 designed after the NSU Ro80 ? Maybe yes would say Citroen with its line of DS, CX and C6) and for the glamour which stupidly inflates the selling price. These cars offer so much more than just looks. The only way around it is to bug VAG with getting their cars with manual gearboxes: - letters of complain to VAG - telling all dealers - prepare a petition and send it to the USA and Canada headquarters. I am amazed to realize that rich people still consider gearboxes something for the lower classes. In Europe, it is the reverse, if you buy a good car, this means you have a sens of value and who would be stupid enough to put automatic on a sporty car ? That is maybe why I do not want to come back to America, because the market rules restrict too much the offer and you cannot find the best as it is the case in Europe or the Middle East. We have to move away from this post-war thinking where we considered big gaz guzzlers with looks and automatic transmission as technological progress. Luc Rolland > In article <alpine.LRH.0.9999.0811131444080.10...@honker.vgersoft.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > -- > Google is a pro-spamming service. I will not see your reply if you use Google. Sad to say that even in Canada where driving with a manual improves performance in bad weather, Audi does not offer it on any of their A4 and RS4. Are you sure about the RS4? I was under the impression that it was never offered with an auto I just checked it again. In fact, in Canada, they only offer the S4 with a 420 hp V8 coming ONLY with the Tiptronic. Sorry, but not only do not get the RS4 like in Europe or Asia but we have to accept a stupid automatic gearbox. It even comes as a Quattro car with EPS but they do not offer a manual. In winter, manual gearboxes give a lot of leverage in many cases where I do not want the EPS or ABS to work. I use the Jacky Stewart type braking which often used in rally where wheel blockage can be very efficient to stop. I like the idea of Peugeot where you can flip a switch and remove all gigs and be in full control. The french know how to do it. Luc Rolland > Sad to say that even in Canada where driving with a manual improves > performance in bad weather, > Audi does not offer it on any of their A4 and RS4. > > Are you sure about the RS4? I was under the impression that it was never > offered with an auto >I'm in upstate New York. Here, it appears to be impossible to get a 2009 >Audi with a manual gearbox. I'm told by the local dealer that the 2--9 A4 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Steve The reasons I bought my 2000 A6 2.7T included the availablility of a manual gearbox and Quattro. I hope Audi doesn't forego this market in the US. Bruce > I'm in upstate New York. Here, it appears to be impossible to get a 2009 > Audi with a manual gearbox. I'm told by the local dealer that the 2--9 A4 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Steve Steve, you need to wait for the 2.0T, which should be available with the 6-speed manual and/or DSG automated manual transmission. No idea when it will be available. Dan D '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6 Central NJ USA I have sent a request for manual gearboxes to be sold on their A4 in Quattro format. I would like it on their very good TDi engines since you can have complete control of your car behaviour. Winter driving can be a lot of fun. A question here : how many of your reading these lines would like to buy an A4 or A6 with manual ? It would be nice to have a flood of positive responses and hopefully someone top managers at AUDI will get the message. Luc Rolland > > I'm in upstate New York. Here, it appears to be impossible to get a 2009 > > Audi with a manual gearbox. I'm told by the local dealer that the 2--9 A4 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6 > Central NJ USA > Steve, you need to wait for the 2.0T, which should be available with > the 6-speed manual and/or DSG automated manual transmission. No idea > when it will be available. Does the 2.0T have enough power for a car of that size and weight? When I bought my current 2002 3.0 V6 A4Q, I also test drove the 2002 1.8T A4, having previously also test driven the 2001 1.8T and 2001 3.0V6. Whereas the 2001 1.8T was fine, power-wise, compared to the 2001 V6, I didn't think that the same was true for the 2002 models, which were heavier. Obviously the current 2.0T has more power than the 1.8T did, but the car is now even heavier. I haven't driven either 2009 A4 yet ('cos they're not sticks!). I've also driven a 2009 A5 with DSG, and, while the car is gorgeous, I didn't really care for the transmission; certainly not enough to put down $52K US on it. I need a clutch pedal! My dealer has an A5 with stick shift on the way and is going to call me when it comes in; I'll report back after a suitable flogging. Steve >> Steve, you need to wait for the 2.0T, which should be available with >> the 6-speed manual and/or DSG automated manual transmission. No idea [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > on the way and is going to call me when it comes in; I'll report back > after a suitable flogging. 2.0T has something like 211bhp which should be enough for a decent turn of speed. I'm also pretty sure that the B8 A4 is lighter than the outgoing model. > > Steve, you need to wait for the 2.0T, which should be available with > > the 6-speed manual and/or DSG automated manual transmission. No idea [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Steve I've had loaners with the 2.0T and Tiptronic and thought it had plenty of pick-up for that car - it would certainly feel better with a manual transmission. I wish I could get the extra ponies for my 1.8T (yeah, I know, I could easily chip it). Unless you're a horsepower freak, I think the 2.0T is a GREAT combination of power and economy, especially with the manual. Dan D '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6 Central NJ USA |
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