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Car Forum / BMW Cars / September 2006

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SNACNUD - 31 Aug 2006 07:46 GMT
2002 330d with no cooling air the drive belt is fine, the fan works, and the
pump rotates when A/C is selected.  Does anyone have an idea of what to look
at?
John - 31 Aug 2006 20:41 GMT
Are you sure the clutch engages when you call for cooling? Check the
accumulator and look into the little circular glsss sight glass. You should
see fluid flowing usually with bubbles.  If not, you may be low/out of
refrigerant to where the low pressure switch (safety) is stopping the
compressor from engaging.

> 2002 330d with no cooling air the drive belt is fine, the fan works, and the
> pump rotates when A/C is selected.  Does anyone have an idea of what to look
> at?
Fred W - 31 Aug 2006 20:53 GMT
> 2002 330d with no cooling air the drive belt is fine, the fan works, and the
> pump rotates when A/C is selected.  Does anyone have an idea of what to look
> at?

Sure, that's an easy one.  Look for an AC Repair shop!

Seriously.  You've ruled out the big, obvious stuff.  Time for an expert
opinion.  It will undoubtedly involve doing some work with the
refridgerant and you are not qualified to do that.

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admin - 31 Aug 2006 20:58 GMT
> Sure, that's an easy one.  Look for an AC Repair shop!
>
> Seriously.  You've ruled out the big, obvious stuff.  Time for an expert
> opinion.  It will undoubtedly involve doing some work with the
> refridgerant and you are not qualified to do that.

Not only that - he's probably not qualified to work with refrigerant
either..
clifffreeling@yahoo.com - 01 Sep 2006 15:16 GMT
> > Sure, that's an easy one.  Look for an AC Repair shop!
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Not only that - he's probably not qualified to work with refrigerant
> either..

You two have gotta be kidding.   Didn't you know that you can
buy R-134a refrigerant over the counter now, in a can?   You can
get a big can for about 10 bucks at many places that sell even
a relatively small  selection of auto parts.   Comes with fitting
and hose too!   This job is now easy and cheap.   If only they'd
start selling kits for home AC's.....

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Fred W - 01 Sep 2006 16:38 GMT
>>>Sure, that's an easy one.  Look for an AC Repair shop!
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> and hose too!   This job is now easy and cheap.   If only they'd
> start selling kits for home AC's.....

Yeah, and just dumping in another can of *refrigerant* without knowing
the present charge level is one of the best ways of insuring you'll be
spending even more money when you go to see the AC specialist.

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clifffreeling@yahoo.com - 01 Sep 2006 16:55 GMT
> Yeah, and just dumping in another can of *refrigerant* without knowing
> the present charge level is one of the best ways of insuring you'll be
> spending even more money when you go to see the AC specialist.

Do tell.   When the air is no longer cool, it needs a recharge.
I have wife sit in car, and when air is cool, I stop charging.
Pretty simple.

This car needs about one can per year that lasts all summer.
Some years back, I took this car to an AC "specialist" because the
compressor was making a little noise, and the air wasn't cool.  He
said I needed a new compressor...about $600 I think he said.
I didn't bite.   Still the same compressor (no longer makes noise)
and cool all summer on one can of refrig.

-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
 ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
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Cliff

John - 01 Sep 2006 20:51 GMT
And if there's a sight glass, the job is even easier. Get the car runing for
10 minutes with AC on full. Slowly add 134 until the bubbles almost
disappear from the sight glass. Never turn the can upsidedown. as you'll
damage the compressor with liquid.

> > Yeah, and just dumping in another can of *refrigerant* without knowing
> > the present charge level is one of the best ways of insuring you'll be
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
>   ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
clifffreeling@yahoo.com - 01 Sep 2006 23:08 GMT
> And if there's a sight glass, the job is even easier. Get the car runing for
> 10 minutes with AC on full. Slowly add 134 until the bubbles almost
> disappear from the sight glass.

Yep, this car I was talking about does have a sight glass, but I
never could get much info from it for some reason.

> Never turn the can upsidedown. as you'll
> damage the compressor with liquid.

So that's the reason the instructions always say that....never
thought of that.

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Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
 ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
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Fred W - 01 Sep 2006 16:32 GMT
>> Sure, that's an easy one.  Look for an AC Repair shop!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Not only that - he's probably not qualified to work with refrigerant
> either..

Oh thanks.  I'll just call you spell checker from now on...

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Jeff Strickland - 01 Sep 2006 01:34 GMT
clogged microfilter.

> 2002 330d with no cooling air the drive belt is fine, the fan works, and
> the pump rotates when A/C is selected.  Does anyone have an idea of what
> to look at?
 
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