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BMW E numbers.

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Mike G - 09 Sep 2006 12:59 GMT
A couple of weeks ago there was a question about finding the E number for a
car.
Just out of curiosity, have the E numbers any real significance?
They seem to be almost randomly allocated.
Mike.
Jeff Strickland - 09 Sep 2006 17:07 GMT
There is no particular significance to the numbering sequence. The numbers
simply designate the various chassis designs. the 3 Series cars have been
with us for a long while, and come on several different platforms, these
platforms are defined by the E Nunmber. Obviously, the same holds true for
the various iterations of the 5- and 7 Series cars as well.

>A couple of weeks ago there was a question about finding the E number for a
>car.
> Just out of curiosity, have the E numbers any real significance?
> They seem to be almost randomly allocated.
> Mike.
Fred W - 11 Sep 2006 14:33 GMT
> There is no particular significance to the numbering sequence. The
> numbers simply designate the various chassis designs. the 3 Series cars
> have been with us for a long while, and come on several different
> platforms, these platforms are defined by the E Nunmber. Obviously, the
> same holds true for the various iterations of the 5- and 7 Series cars
> as well.

The only real significance is that the bigger numbers are later designs.
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Jeff Strickland - 11 Sep 2006 15:46 GMT
>> There is no particular significance to the numbering sequence. The
>> numbers simply designate the various chassis designs. the 3 Series cars
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The only real significance is that the bigger numbers are later designs.

While that seems to be true today, there are huge gaps in the numbering
sequence, and a lower number could (in theory) be used at some point in the
future. Another truism today is that the numbers are all E, and they are all
2-digit (plus the letter) numbers. They will run out of numerals if they
continue on the current trend, this would mean they need a new letter, or
expand to 3-digits.
Andrew Morton - 11 Sep 2006 16:00 GMT
> While that seems to be true today, there are huge gaps in the
> numbering sequence, and a lower number could (in theory) be used at
> some point in the future. Another truism today is that the numbers
> are all E, and they are all 2-digit (plus the letter) numbers. They
> will run out of numerals if they continue on the current trend, this
> would mean they need a new letter, or expand to 3-digits.

Wikipedia suggests a new letter - table at bottom of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E36

Of course, it's Wikipedia, so...

Andrew
Fred W - 11 Sep 2006 18:01 GMT
>>While that seems to be true today, there are huge gaps in the
>>numbering sequence, and a lower number could (in theory) be used at
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Of course, it's Wikipedia, so...

But it indicates an F1 is the next 5 series car scheduled for 2008.
That's pretty close timeframe.  Maybe they know something here?

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Tom K. - 14 Sep 2006 23:28 GMT
>> Wikipedia suggests a new letter - table at bottom of
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E36
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> But it indicates an F1 is the next 5 series car scheduled for 2008. That's
> pretty close timeframe.  Maybe they know something here?

And I'm already planning on replacing my Z4 (E85) with a Z10 next year!!
(Like Jeff said, "it's Wikipedia, so...")

Tom K.
Fred W - 11 Sep 2006 17:06 GMT
>>> There is no particular significance to the numbering sequence. The
>>> numbers simply designate the various chassis designs. the 3 Series
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> if they continue on the current trend, this would mean they need a new
> letter, or expand to 3-digits.

I saw a list once that explained many of the "missing" numbers at the
time.  They were mostly cars that went through some part of development
before they were canned.

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-Fred W

E Brown - 09 Sep 2006 21:16 GMT
>A couple of weeks ago there was a question about finding the E number for a
>car.
>Just out of curiosity, have the E numbers any real significance?
>They seem to be almost randomly allocated.

    Given that the people assigning them are German engineers, I doubt
they're random; it's just that from outside, we don't see what system
they're using. The only real puzzle is the move from small jumps
between models to where we are now: E30 - E36 - E46, E22 - E32-E38,
E28-E34-E39, those are almost linear and all of a sudden we're in the
90s? Some internal change used up a lot of E numbers. I'm curious if
what we're seeing now, with the 3-series having different numbers for
each chassis, was always going on internally. Or maybe the E47 is a
BMW Polo shirt in lime green.
    Porsche did the same thing. The 911 went from 964 to 993, then
slowed to 996 and 997? The Boxster came out *after* the 993, and it's
the 986; could be right though, since I don't remember when the
concept for the Boxster appeared. It might have been before the 993
was released.
    epbrown
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"Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car;
most people will settle for the car." Chris Titus
2003 BMW 325i Black/Black, 2003 BMW Z4 Black/Black
vricardo - 14 Sep 2006 23:14 GMT
Regarding Porsche numbers, coincidence or not, here it goes:

- the 930 came after the 911, with a 3 liter engine;
- the 964 was the fist 4wd Carrera 4 (besides 959 supercar that came
before);
- the 993 came out in 1992 but as 1993 model year;
- the 986 Boxster came out in 1996; the same as the 996...

For the rest, I do not know...
 
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