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Nikatnott - 04 Oct 2006 16:18 GMT

I am a post graduate researcher at the University of Nottingham in the
UK. This questionnaire forms part of a wider study into driver
behaviour conducted by myself and my colleagues.

If you use any type of in-vehicle navigation system, I would appreciate
it if you could follow the link below and answer a short questionnaire
regarding navigation system user behaviour and preferences.

www.mrl.nott.ac.uk/~nlf

The questionnaire is very short (it should only take 5 to 10 minutes to
complete). Research in this area is only in its infancy, and there are
many gaps in the current literature, it is hoped this questionnaire
will be a start in filling some of these gaps.

Once the results have been analysed, I will provide a link from this
forum to a results summary so that interested participants may have a
look. Alternatively, please email me at nikatnott@yahoo.co.uk and I
will provide them to you by email.

Many thanks

Nick Forbes
Postgraduate researcher
University of Nottingham

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Floyd Rogers - 04 Oct 2006 17:05 GMT

>I am a post graduate researcher at the University of Nottingham in the
> UK. This questionnaire forms part of a wider study into driver
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>
> www.mrl.nott.ac.uk/~nlf

If this is an "official" survey by a student, why are you using a
yahoo email account and not your student account at Nottingham?
Looks fishy to me, especially since the survey's address doesn't
end in .edu.

FloydR

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adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 04 Oct 2006 17:51 GMT

> >I am a post graduate researcher at the University of Nottingham in the
> > UK. This questionnaire forms part of a wider study into driver
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>
> FloydR

Can't vouch for the OP but academic establishments in the uk have an
"ac.uk" ending. gov.uk for goverment, co.uk for companies etc

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Floyd Rogers - 04 Oct 2006 18:37 GMT

> Floyd Rogers wrote:
>> >I am a post graduate researcher at the University of Nottingham in the
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> Can't vouch for the OP but academic establishments in the uk have an
> "ac.uk" ending. gov.uk for goverment, co.uk for companies etc

Gotcha - wasn't aware of that (another way the EU wants to be "different",
I guess.)

FloydR

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adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 05 Oct 2006 10:45 GMT

> > Can't vouch for the OP but academic establishments in the uk have an
> > "ac.uk" ending. gov.uk for goverment, co.uk for companies etc
>
> Gotcha - wasn't aware of that (another way the EU wants to be "different",
> I guess.)

More like another way that the US (of A) seems to ignore that the rest
of the world exists.

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Richard Sexton - 05 Oct 2006 11:46 GMT

>> > Can't vouch for the OP but academic establishments in the uk have an
>> > "ac.uk" ending. gov.uk for goverment, co.uk for companies etc
>>
>> Gotcha - wasn't aware of that (another way the EU wants to be "different",
>> I guess.)

.UK predates .US.

.EDU is traditionally US only.

The UK and EU aren't "different" about this:

# whois gov.us
Domain Name: GOV.US
Domain ID: D655022-US
Sponsoring Registrar: REGISTRY REGISTRAR
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: inactive
Registrant ID: NEUSTAR
Registrant Name: NEUSTAR
Registrant Address1: Loudoun Tech Center
Registrant Address2: 45980 Center Oak Plaza
Registrant City: Sterling
Registrant State/Province: VA
Registrant Postal Code: 20166
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US

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Floyd Rogers - 05 Oct 2006 15:59 GMT

> <adder1969@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> > Can't vouch for the OP but academic establishments in the uk have an
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>
> .EDU is traditionally US only.

And predates all country and other extensions, by more than a decade.
One of the original suffixes, along with .web, .com and .org. My comment
has to do with the .ac versus .edu - seems silly. Of course, it's silly
both
ways - most US Universities don't register the .us suffix name.

FloydR

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Richard Sexton - 06 Oct 2006 19:23 GMT

>> <adder1969@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> > Can't vouch for the OP but academic establishments in the uk have an
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>has to do with the .ac versus .edu - seems silly. Of course, it's silly
>both ways - most US Universities don't register the .us suffix name.

.edu has flip flopped a few times. First it was wide open, then it
was US schools only and now it's wide open again. I think, I haven't
check this week.

There's two schools of thoughs on domain naming: one side would like
a globally consistant ontology so all names seem more or less the same
while the other side wants what makes sense for their community and
the rest of the world be damned. There is no resolution to this problem.

Even rigorously controlled namespaces have glitches: .edu is for post secondary
schools but I found a beaty school in LA one that had one. Oy.

At the end of the day a domain name is an arbitrary string of characters
that helps people remember the names of resources and nothing more
can really be read into it.

.web? Huh?

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Floyd Rogers - 06 Oct 2006 21:57 GMT

> Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> .web? Huh?

.web An ending of an address for an Internet site that is about the
World Wide Web. Example: http://www.resources.web

from
http://www.computeruser.com/resources/dictionary/noframes/nf.domains.html
Theoretically I suppose, the main web domain servers would have a .web name.

FloydR

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pltrgyst - 06 Oct 2006 22:49 GMT

>> Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> .web? Huh?
>
> .web An ending of an address for an Internet site that is about the
>World Wide Web. Example: http://www.resources.web

Floyd, once again, you're full of sh.t. .web is an unofficial, newby, wanna-be
TLD, only around since '95 or so.

The original six TLDs were .com, .edu, .gov, .mil. .net, and .org.

-- Larry (around since ARPAnet...)

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Floyd Rogers - 06 Oct 2006 23:59 GMT

> "Floyd Rogers" <fbloogyuds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> The original six TLDs were .com, .edu, .gov, .mil. .net, and .org.

My brain said .net, but fingers wrote .web... don't know why I didn't
catch it on the 2nd posting.

FloydR

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Richard Sexton - 07 Oct 2006 21:20 GMT

>>> Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> ...
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>Floyd, once again, you're full of sh.t. .web is an unofficial, newby, wanna-be
>TLD, only around since '95 or so.

"unofficial" ?

There no such thing as "official". It's not like poeple make an affirmative
choice when they sign up for a $30/mo interent account.

If you look very carefully at the history you'll find Jon Postel of IANA
tellimg Ambler to go and deploy .WEB and can (with google) follow the machinations
that led to an ICANN dominated by multinational intellectual property attornies
stalling the whole process Jon started and which some people say, killed him.
You'll also find Vint Cerf recognizing Ambler's .web at the 2000 Marina del Rey ICANN meeting.

>The original six TLDs were .com, .edu, .gov, .mil. .net, and .org.

You forgot .arpa, .uk and .nato. Discussion of all these can be found on
the "message group" archives, the very first internail mailing list which
goes back to the 70's and was run by Einar Stefferud, who incidentally
is, along with Brian Reid and myself, is one of the guys behind ORSC.

As for .web being a "wanna be" I'd simply point out the tld does work and haw
worked for longer than 95% of the ccTLDs. You just won't see it without
using different dns servers than what the US government ans IBM's trademark
lawyers want you to use.

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Richard Sexton - 07 Oct 2006 21:10 GMT

>> Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> ...
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>http://www.computeruser.com/resources/dictionary/noframes/nf.domains.html
>Theoretically I suppose, the main web domain servers would have a .web name.

The reason I'm amused is this: the US government controls what top level
domains exist in the "legacy" root zone file that defines what most
people implicitly use. Some percent of the worlds population use what
is known as "alternative" domain resources and there are many more
top level domains that the USG recognizes.

.web is one of the oldest of these alternatve tlds, it's been run by Chris
Ambler since 1996. It's expected to go live in the USG servers this spring.

I sorta coordinate this stuff for orsc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORSC

richard@nepasspammezns1.vrx.net Sat Oct 07 16:02:35 ~
% dig web. ns

; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> web. ns
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22255
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;web. IN NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
web. 172461 IN NS ns1.web-zone.webtld.com.
web. 172461 IN NS ns2.web-zone.webtld.com.

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Oct 7 16:02:37 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 76

richard@nepasspammezns1.vrx.net Sat Oct 07 16:02:37 ~

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pltrgyst - 06 Oct 2006 22:41 GMT

>And predates all country and other extensions, by more than a decade.
>One of the original suffixes, along with .web, .com and .org....

".web"? Sure you don't mean .net?

-- Larry

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