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Need input/Help - VANOS

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Branden Nelsen - 19 Oct 2006 23:58 GMT
I just got my car back from the mechanic and they are tellling me that my
issues with a bad Idle when its cold are due to the VANOS in my 99' 528i
going bad and its $1200 to replace it.

Now. They "unplugged" the VANOS they told me, so it wont cause any damage to
the motor as it goes bad. What exactly am i losing or will this effect my
car in anyway by having this unplugged? Also i know that it controls the
timing on the CAM's i belive, by having this unplugged and driving it around
will my car be damaged? Is this something that i NEED to have replaced
within the next few months? or can it wait till spring?

-Branden
Jeff Strickland - 20 Oct 2006 03:13 GMT
No, it won't damage anything.

You are right, VANOS is a cam timing mechanism. It alters the valve timing
to produce more torque at low speeds. Without it, all you will notice is
flatter engine response.

On a 3 Series, this might not even be noticed by most drivers, but the added
weight in your 5 Series may make the flat response noticable, and I assume
undesirable.

The VANOS unit isn't very complicated, but the Cam Assembly is with some
significant chains attached, and a special tool to hold the cams in place
while the VANOS (and chains) are replaced. (I think you would be wise to
replace the timing chains if you are going to replace the VANOS unit.) The
unit isn't all that expensive, but the labor will run to about 6 hours, I
think.

If you feel no driveability issues without the VANOS, I see no reason you
can't drive without it. The only problem you should notice is in low-end
performance -- starting off from stop signs and lights, that sort of thing.
Once you get to freeway speeds, VANOS is done anyway, and you'll never know
it isn't working.

>I just got my car back from the mechanic and they are tellling me that my
>issues with a bad Idle when its cold are due to the VANOS in my 99' 528i
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> -Branden
adder1969@yahoo.co.uk - 20 Oct 2006 10:38 GMT
> I just got my car back from the mechanic and they are tellling me that my
> issues with a bad Idle when its cold are due to the VANOS in my 99' 528i
> going bad and its $1200 to replace it.

Sounds like BS to me.
Dave Plowman (News) - 20 Oct 2006 14:00 GMT
> > I just got my car back from the mechanic and they are tellling me that
> > my issues with a bad Idle when its cold are due to the VANOS in my 99'
> > 528i going bad and its $1200 to replace it.

> Sounds like BS to me.

Dunno. I've not experienced it, but VANOS stuck in the 'advanced' position
could well give a poor idle.

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Lemuel Johnson - 20 Oct 2006 16:57 GMT
> I just got my car back from the mechanic and they are tellling me that my
> issues with a bad Idle when its cold are due to the VANOS in my 99' 528i
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> -Branden

Does this describe the problem?

"It occurs on cold weather cold engine starts and takes the form of
repeated engine attempted stalls and possibly a complete engine stall.
The engine rpms drop dramatically and then recover. This then repeats
after a few seconds of steady idle. The problem can be more definitively
diagnosed by disconnecting the vanos intake or exhaust solenoid
electrical connector. If the engine stalls cease then the problem is due
to the vanos."

If so, then yes, you'll have to replace the entire VANOS because a
couple of rubber seals have worn out:

http://bimmer.roadfly.com/bmw/forums/e39/7494631-1.html

That said, driving with the VANOS solenoid disconnected won't hurt the
engine, only performance.

Lemuel Johnson
Branden Nelsen - 21 Oct 2006 23:45 GMT
Thanks for all the replies.

Lemuel - That is the EXACT issue im having :)

So far my car is performing the same as when i bought it a year ago, so im
guessing that it was dieing/dead from alonf time ago i just never noticed.
So when i get it fixed id imagine im going to be suprised at the performance
increase! :)

-Branden

>> I just got my car back from the mechanic and they are tellling me that my
>> issues with a bad Idle when its cold are due to the VANOS in my 99' 528i
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> Lemuel Johnson
 
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