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Car Forum / BMW Cars / October 2006Front "fog" lights
OK, My gran had a BMW which whenever it went into the dealer (Farnboro' Hampshire) we found the front fog lights switched On Why? > OK, My gran had a BMW which whenever it went into the dealer (Farnboro' > Hampshire) we found the front fog lights switched On The service bay was dark? R / John Because somebody hit the button. > OK, My gran had a BMW which whenever it went into the dealer (Farnboro' > Hampshire) we found the front fog lights switched On > > Why? > Because somebody hit the button. Probably an element of truth there :-) However as she does not have a handbook**** I would be interested if BMW believe that front fogs are essential for BMW driving *** Most handbooks call them driving lights or additional lights and warn on their legal use - wondered if BMW states something similar > However as she does not have a handbook**** I would be interested if BMW > believe that front fogs are essential for BMW driving > *** Most handbooks call them driving lights or additional lights and > warn on their legal use - wondered if BMW states something similar In the UK, fog lamps are just that - only to be used in conditions of poor visibility, other than just darkness. Hence their low mounted position. Driving or additional lamps are to supplement the main beam.  Signature*Laugh alone and the world thinks you're an idiot. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> However as she does not have a handbook**** I would be interested if BMW >> believe that front fogs are essential for BMW driving [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >visibility, other than just darkness. Hence their low mounted position. >Driving or additional lamps are to supplement the main beam. The difference is the beam pattern. Dricig lights throw a concentrated beam stright down the road. Fog lights throw a short but very wide beam. SignatureNeed Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net > In the UK, fog lamps are just that - only to be used in conditions of poor > visibility, other than just darkness. Don't you hate drivers who don't know how to switch them off and drive ona clear night with rear fog lights blazing...? ...and don't get me started on drivers who don't know how to engage the handbrake at traffic lights and just hold the footbrake shining their high level LED brake lights into my eyes! Steve. >> However as she does not have a handbook**** I would be interested if BMW >> believe that front fogs are essential for BMW driving [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > visibility, other than just darkness. Hence their low mounted position. > Driving or additional lamps are to supplement the main beam. I was hoping someone else would ask, but nobody has. What is the purpose of fog lights in the rear? I assume it is just for visibility. > I was hoping someone else would ask, but nobody has. > What is the purpose of fog lights in the rear? I assume it is just for > visibility. Yes - and not only in fog. Very heavy daylight rain and heavy snow too. Signature*How come you never hear about gruntled employees? * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. > > I was hoping someone else would ask, but nobody has. > > > What is the purpose of fog lights in the rear? I assume it is just for > > visibility. > > Yes - and not only in fog. Very heavy daylight rain and heavy snow too. In the UK, it's something like you should only use them if visibility is less than 100 metres. Generally if I find it difficult to see the car in front of me then I'll switch on my rear fogs *unless* the car behind is close enough that I'm sure he/she can see me anyway. > > Yes - and not only in fog. Very heavy daylight rain and heavy snow too. > In the UK, it's something like you should only use them if visibility > is less than 100 metres. Generally if I find it difficult to see the > car in front of me then I'll switch on my rear fogs *unless* the car > behind is close enough that I'm sure he/she can see me anyway. The purpose is to be seen. If you've established difficulty in seeing a car ahead because of the poor conditions and it isn't using rear guard fog lights, you should switch yours on - regardless of who or what is behind you, as that is beyond your control. If in such conditions they dazzle the driver behind, he's driving too close and should drop back - indeed in poor weather many drive too close simply to keep 'in contact' with the vehicle in front. Signature*Even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn now and again * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> > Yes - and not only in fog. Very heavy daylight rain and heavy snow too. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > poor weather many drive too close simply to keep 'in contact' with the > vehicle in front. Trying to get educated since I never heard of rear fog lights until now: What color are the fog lights front & rear? The ones here in the U.S. are only on the front and they are white (clear). I am assuming the rears are not white since that may indicate someone is coming right at you (headlights). > "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote >> The purpose is to be seen. If you've established difficulty in seeing a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > What color are the fog lights front & rear? The ones here in the U.S. are > only on the front and they are white (clear). They are a very bright red color. Most Porsches have them. They are 2-3 times brighter than brake lights (which are about twice as bright as taillights). Daniel Stern has particulars, I think on his website. FloydR > They are a very bright red color. Most Porsches have them. > They are 2-3 times brighter than brake lights (which are about > twice as bright as taillights). Daniel Stern has particulars, I think > on his website. In the UK, the actual bulbs are the same power as the brake lights. But of course the design of the reflectors may give the impression they are brighter. Some cars are only fitted with one - on the driver's side. They are a safety aid when used as intended - in very poor visibility - but are often abused and annoy following drivers. Signature*Why does the sun lighten our hair, but darken our skin? Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> They are a very bright red color. Most Porsches have them. >> They are 2-3 times brighter than brake lights (which are about [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > are a safety aid when used as intended - in very poor visibility - but are > often abused and annoy following drivers. Thanks. That's very interesting and makes a lot of sense. > OK, My gran had a BMW which whenever it went into the dealer (Farnboro' > Hampshire) we found the front fog lights switched On > Why? Perhaps to 'prove' they'd been checked as part of the service? Same way as they leave a sticker on the spare wheel? Signature*42.7% of statistics are made up. Sorry, that should read 47.2% * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. Tom wrote on Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:25:49 GMT: > OK, My gran had a BMW which whenever it went into the dealer (Farnboro' > Hampshire) we found the front fog lights switched On > > Why? Whenever my 320 has an MOT it always ends up with both foglight buttons depressed when I pick it up. They probably just tested the lights and didn't switch them back off again. Dan > Tom wrote on Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:25:49 GMT: > > > OK, My gran had a BMW which whenever it went into the dealer (Farnboro' > > Hampshire) we found the front fog lights switched On > > > > Why? I was possibly being ever so slightly paranoid / facetious (not sure which / bit of both maybe :-) - I think they are only allowed in fog and the headlights must be on, fogs only operate effectively with the dipped headlights off so its silly innit? > > Tom wrote on Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:25:49 GMT: > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > headlights must be on, fogs only operate effectively with the dipped > headlights off so its silly innit? I've only ever found fog lights to be of any use when visibility is down to inches. I probably haven't used fronts for 15 years and I use the rears maybe once every couple of years. > > Tom wrote on Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:25:49 GMT: > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and the headlights must be on, fogs only operate effectively with the > dipped headlights off so its silly innit? All the BMWs I've owned allow the fogs to be used without headlights - as you say they'd be pointless otherwise. Other countries may have different regs, though. Signature*If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >Tom wrote on Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:25:49 GMT: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Dan Don't worry, you'll blend in perfectly with most of the people on the M25 for at least 2 weeks following a slight bit of mist! Dodgy. SignatureMUSHROOMS ARE THE OPIATE OF THE MOOSES Dodgy wrote on Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:20:47 +0100: >> Tom wrote on Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:25:49 GMT: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Don't worry, you'll blend in perfectly with most of the people on the > M25 for at least 2 weeks following a slight bit of mist! I never said I didn't turn them off when I pick the car up. So far I think I've had my rear fogs on once in very heavy mist, and haven't had need of the fronts. :) And you won't catch me on the M25 if I can ever help it - it's bad enough having to use the M42 which is right near where I live, with the Active Traffic Management system trial, and the M6 Toll which so far I've managed to avoid using. Dan To check the beam settings. I would expect them to turn them off again, but at least it shows that they are actually checking them. > OK, My gran had a BMW which whenever it went into the dealer (Farnboro' > Hampshire) we found the front fog lights switched On > > Why? |
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