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Car Forum / BMW Cars / November 20068.5 hours to replace windshield rubber gasket?
That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to replace the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has anyone had this done? What in the world will they do for 8.5 hours??? I understand the windshield has to come out for the gasket to be replaced, but still... Thanks, Pete > That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to > replace the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has > anyone had this done? What in the world will they do for 8.5 > hours??? I understand the windshield has to come out for the gasket > to be replaced, but still... Why has it gone wrong so soon? Did you visit a wildlife park where the monkeys pulled it apart?? How much did the independent windshield replacement company quote? Andrew > Why has it gone wrong so soon? Did you visit a wildlife park where the > monkeys pulled it apart?? No idea. I just got this car used. Unfortunately I did not notice it until after I picked up the car. Serves me right I guess. :( http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/escape2music/misc/gasket.jpg > How much did the independent windshield replacement company quote? The one place I called said they won't do it at all because it's a dealer-only item. I guess I could buy gasket from BMW and bring it to the autoglass place, but it sounds like they've never done this before, so I'm a little worried. Apparently the windshield is easily damaged during the process. Any recommendations for a reputable autoglass place in south Florida, by the way? Thanks, Pete > No idea. I just got this car used. Unfortunately I did not notice > it until after I picked up the car. Serves me right I guess. :( > http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/escape2music/misc/gasket.jpg Unlucky :-( >> How much did the independent windshield replacement company quote? > > The one place I called said they won't do it at all because it's a > dealer-only item. I guess I could buy gasket from BMW and bring it > to the autoglass place, but it sounds like they've never done this > before, so I'm a little worried. Do you have any fancy bits like rain-activated wipers to increase the labour time? I'm sure the dealer would explain why they reckon it would take 8.5 hours. > Apparently the windshield is easily > damaged during the process. These people agree with the windshield probably breaking: http://www.crackedwindshield.com/faq-misc.html > Any recommendations for a reputable autoglass place in south Florida, > by the way? I'm on the other side of The Pond, so, no. Of course, if you were unlucky enough for some vandal to chuck a brick through the windshield overnight, it would get paid for on insurance - if it works like that over there. But you seem to have used up your bad luck already. I didn't say that. Andrew > Do you have any fancy bits like rain-activated wipers to increase the > labour time? Yes. > Of course, if you were unlucky enough for some vandal to chuck a brick > through the windshield overnight, it would get paid for on insurance - if > it works like that over there. But you seem to have used up your bad luck > already. I didn't say that. Oh no, I have lots of bad luck... bricks and all. :) The thing is, if I make a claim on my insurance, they'll hike my rates for a long time to come, so it may not be worth it... Thanks, Pete >> Do you have any fancy bits like rain-activated wipers to increase the >> labour time? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Thanks, > Pete Many insurers don't treat windscreens as a claim. >> The thing is, if I make a claim on my insurance, they'll hike my rates for >> a long time to come, so it may not be worth it... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Many insurers don't treat windscreens as a claim. Typically covered by "comprehensive" - and a low deductible comprehensive is actually a very good deal. One windshield could pay for years of the increase in premium. I needed a windshield replaced on a 20 year old Mercedes. Prices were trhough the roof. I droev to small industrial mall that had a bunch of "to the trade" little businessses - an auto elecronics and wiring place, an auto interior place, an auto glass place. I asked how much for a new windshield, installed and was met with the question "insurance or cash". "What's the difference" I asked. Insirance $700, cash $250 installed. I paid the 250 and it was ready in an hour and has been flawless ever since. Now this particular car had a urethane seating area and no gasket per se so you'd need to buy a gasket. About $100 I'd guess. There is a difference in the Euro and US gaskets (Euro glass is thinner) somake sure you get the right one. The other sneaky thing to do is ask the stealer where he sends the glass out too and just go there. Chances are high they farm this out. Chances are even higher you can do a lot better just by looking in the phone book. Avoid the chains, call everyone to get a price then settle for the one that's the least hassle, it'll invariably some little place like the one I described. Which is probably where the car would end up anyway :-)  SignatureNeed Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net >That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to replace >the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has anyone had this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks, >Pete Sound like they are charging you for the time the glue takes to dry! Assuming this gets replaced with the windscreen, and you have windscreen insurance, surely it time to find a house brick... *cough* Dodgy. SignatureMUSHROOMS ARE THE OPIATE OF THE MOOSES >That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to replace >the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has anyone had this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks, >Pete I recently had a windshield replaced, including a replacement gasket. Took the guy slightly over an hour. The car did have to sit for awhile waiting for the sealant to cure. > I recently had a windshield replaced, including a replacement gasket. Took > the guy slightly over an hour. The car did have to sit for awhile waiting > for the sealant to cure. Was it replaced by the dealer or another autoglass place? Does your 5-series have the rain-sensing feature? Pete >> I recently had a windshield replaced, including a replacement gasket. Took >> the guy slightly over an hour. The car did have to sit for awhile waiting [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Pete No rain sensor, and it was a come to you place autoglass outfit. > That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to > replace the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has anyone > had this done? What in the world will they do for 8.5 hours??? I > understand the windshield has to come out for the gasket to be replaced, > but still... I found this thread on one of the forums: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207286 Some users claim it's just a $37 part that you can replace yourself in 30 minutes without removing the glass... hmm... Pete That guy is talking about the plastic trim piece that locks the rubber seal in place. There's no way anyone could replace the seal without removing the glass. Tell us what problem you had with the seal that caused you to decide to replace it. >> That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to >> replace the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has anyone [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Pete > That guy is talking about the plastic trim piece that locks the rubber seal > in place. There's no way anyone could replace the seal without removing the > glass. Tell us what problem you had with the seal that caused you to decide > to replace it. I couldn't see the pciture that was posted but if the seal is simply leaking then extra sealant can be replaced either from the outside or the inside. To totally unseal and reseal the windscreen it needs to come out and it would either take a very long time to remove intact or you have to break it. On my 7 i had to smash all along the bottom of the screen to get it out as the sealant there was very thin. I got a replacement screen with rain sensor and heater elements for around $200 and fitted it myself. ..but unless the screen is damaged there's no way I'd fit a new one just for a leaky seal. > That guy is talking about the plastic trim piece that locks the rubber > seal in place. There's no way anyone could replace the seal without > removing the glass. Tell us what problem you had with the seal that > caused you to decide to replace it. It's the outer rubber that you can see in the picture I posted. It's flaking off. There isn't any plastic trim around the windshield. Pete >>That guy is talking about the plastic trim piece that locks the rubber >>seal in place. There's no way anyone could replace the seal without [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pete Is it leaking? If not, leave it alone. Signature-Fred W "Fred W" > Is it leaking? If not, leave it alone. I haven't noticed any leaks, although I've only had the car for about a week. It just looks crappy, hence I wanted to have it replaced. Also, the water must be getting inside (between this outer rubber and the actual glass seal. It can't possibly be good if the water just sits there, even if it does not leak into the car. Pete The windshield is held in with a special glue/sealant, it is not a "gasket" the way we normally think of them. The trim is separate. So Does the windshield need to be resealed, or do you just need to replace the trim? BTW, the dealer is way way too expensive. The independent glass guys can do the job in an hour and charge you an hour to do it. The local dealer here used to hire the independent glass guy to do the job in an hour, and then charged 8.5 to the customer. Now they have the dealer techs do it, it takes them 3 or 4 hours because they aren't glass guys. Plus the quality is lower because they aren't experts, and they still charge 8.5 hours. > The windshield is held in with a special glue/sealant, it is not a > "gasket" > the way we normally think of them. The trim is separate. So Does the > windshield need to be resealed, or do you just need to replace the > trim? I just needed the trim. I bought it from the dealer and replaced it myself. It took 30 minutes, if that. Pete > That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to > replace the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has > anyone had this done? What in the world will they do for 8.5 hours??? > I understand the windshield has to come out for the gasket to be > replaced, but still... I've not had the screen changed on my E39, but watched then do it on my E34 which I thought was similar. Took under an hour. Signature*He who laughs last, thinks slowest. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to >> replace the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I've not had the screen changed on my E39, but watched then do it on my >E34 which I thought was similar. Took under an hour. About par for the course -- My 7 took 1 hour 40 mins byt the time he was packed up and away Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen hsg@h-gee.co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK > That's how much labor (at $130/hour) a local BMW dealer quoted me to > replace the gasket surrounding the windshield on an '02 530i. Has anyone > had this done? What in the world will they do for 8.5 hours??? I > understand the windshield has to come out for the gasket to be replaced, > but still... And one more reference (in case anyone gets the same crap from the dealer): http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/207762/ I'm going to pick up the part this weekend and swap it out myself. Pete |
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