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Car Forum / BMW Cars / January 2007SI lights wont reset
Just had my car serviced but the mechanic reported that the SI lights wont reset. Its showing 1 orange light and 3 red - I've read that not resetting may mean that the batteries on the SI board need replacing but if that's the case wouldn't I have no lights showing at all? Cheers Steve  Signature1985 M535i >Just had my car serviced but the mechanic reported that the SI lights wont >reset. >Its showing 1 orange light and 3 red - I've read that not resetting may mean >that the batteries on the SI board need replacing but if that's the case >wouldn't I have no lights showing at all? I had the same issue with a '98 535 in the uk. Eventually a scuffle with a twat who tried to get my keys out while the car was in drive caused the car to sit for a few seconds with the ignition still on and the SI reset itself!!!!!! pete -- http://www.brazierbridgewood.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswich/ >I had the same issue with a '98 535 in the uk. Eventually a scuffle >with a twat who tried to get my keys out while the car was in drive >caused the car to sit for a few seconds with the ignition still on and >the SI reset itself!!!!!! In that case, you need to move to a better neighbourhood or hang out with better adjusted crowd. Sheesh. SignatureDan. >>I had the same issue with a '98 535 in the uk. Eventually a scuffle >>with a twat who tried to get my keys out while the car was in drive [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > In that case, you need to move to a better neighbourhood or hang out > with better adjusted crowd. Or, revisit the locale after servicing so the lights get reset ... >>I had the same issue with a '98 535 in the uk. Eventually a scuffle >>with a twat who tried to get my keys out while the car was in drive [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >In that case, you need to move to a better neighbourhood or hang out >with better adjusted crowd. Young lads get a bit boisterous growing up. Their fathers are just as harmless. pete -- http://www.brazierbridgewood.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswich/ >>>I had the same issue with a '98 535 in the uk. Eventually a scuffle >>>with a twat who tried to get my keys out while the car was in drive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Young lads get a bit boisterous growing up. Their fathers are just as >harmless. Yes, just harmless scuffles, robberies and car thefts. Nothing to worry about there, no sir. Well, those 'young lads' can be just as 'boisterous' as they like - so long as it's in your neighbourhood, and not mine. All the evidence indicates that you really are a bit of a screwball daft laddie. You know that, don't you? I know I'm not the first person to have suggested that this might be the case. SignatureDan. >All the evidence indicates that you really are a bit of a screwball >daft laddie. You know that, don't you? I know I'm not the first >person to have suggested that this might be the case. Woops. A troll. pete -- http://www.brazierbridgewood.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswich/ >>All the evidence indicates that you really are a bit of a screwball >>daft laddie. You know that, don't you? I know I'm not the first >>person to have suggested that this might be the case. >Woops. A troll. Yeah, really. You don't know what a troll really is. In your fevered imagination it's just a label that you want to tag on someone who disagrees with you. You're a nutjob, as anyone with half a brain and access to a search engine can verify for himself. However, I don't have a dog in the fight you have with others, so I'll bow out and just continue to be entertained by all your calling the police and lawyers on each other, and your writing of endless "blogs" that conclusively prove whatever pathetic point it is you're trying to make. Usenet kooks are entertaining, but it's not wise to engage them directly. It's a fundamental Usenet lesson that I had temporarily overlooked. I'm sorry. SignatureDan. >>>All the evidence indicates that you really are a bit of a screwball >>>daft laddie. You know that, don't you? I know I'm not the first [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >disagrees with you. You're a nutjob, as anyone with half a brain and >access to a search engine can verify for himself. Yeeeees. And its relevance to BMW's is? Don't answer please. pete -- http://www.brazierbridgewood.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswich/ >>>>All the evidence indicates that you really are a bit of a screwball >>>>daft laddie. You know that, don't you? I know I'm not the first [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Yeeeees. And its relevance to BMW's is? Don't answer please. Oh, go chop a chain off a gate or something, you pathetic little w.nker. Actually, I'd much rather open up my newspaper tomorrow morning and read that you gave a blow job to *both* barrels of a 12 gauge shotgun. But I'm not going to hold my breath on that one though. Others in NGs like this need to understand that you're a net kook and a nut job, that's all I'm trying to do here - just to make sure that people know that you have, shall we say, a somewhat rich history of net kookiness. That's all. SignatureDan. >Others in NGs like this need to understand that you're a net kook and >a nut job, that's all I'm trying to do here - just to make sure that >people know that you have, shall we say, a somewhat rich history of >net kookiness. That's all. Please Mr Dark keep your posts to BMW related topics on *this* NG. You make enough noise elsewhere already. pete -- http://www.brazierbridgewood.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswich/ >>Others in NGs like this need to understand that you're a net kook and >>a nut job, that's all I'm trying to do here - just to make sure that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Please Mr Dark keep your posts to BMW related topics on *this* NG. You >make enough noise elsewhere already. OK. My work here is done. SignatureDan. > Just had my car serviced but the mechanic reported that the SI lights wont > reset. > Its showing 1 orange light and 3 red - I've read that not resetting may mean > that the batteries on the SI board need replacing but if that's the case > wouldn't I have no lights showing at all? No, when the batteries fail a few things can happen. It's more common for the yellow and red to be on all the time! I'd fit new NICADs, but be sure to charge them before installation. SignatureWho needs a life when you've got Unix? :-) Email: john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk, John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage! Need Sun or HP Unix kit? http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/unix.html www.Strathspey.co.uk - Quality Binoculars at a Sensible price On 16/11/06 23:32, in article 455CF4FF.B41@unixnerd.demon.co.uk, "John Burns" <john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote: > No, when the batteries fail a few things can happen. It's more common > for the yellow and red to be on all the time! I'd fit new NICADs, but be > sure to charge them before installation. Thanks - what type do I need and more importantly where to get them in the UK? Cheers Steve Signature1985 M535i > On 16/11/06 23:32, in article 455CF4FF.B41@unixnerd.demon.co.uk, "John > Burns" <john@unixnerd.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Thanks - what type do I need and more importantly where to get them > in the UK? I haven't got the faintest idea what batteries they are, but if they're not a common variety you could try http://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/ - I got those awkward-to-find batteries in Macs from there. Andrew > No, when the batteries fail a few things can happen. It's more common > for the yellow and red to be on all the time! I'd fit new NICADs, but be > sure to charge them before installation. OK - I've fitted the new NiCads (2 x 1.2V) but the batteries that came off the board were 2 x 3V Lithium batteries. The SI lights have now reset but the the OBC is behaving oddly - I can set it but it loses its memory when the ignition is off . It started displaying PPPP so I reset it and now it just displays UHR. Do I need to: a)Replace the SI batteries with the 3V lithiums that were there or b) get a new OBC? Cheers Steve > OK - I've fitted the new NiCads (2 x 1.2V) but the batteries that came > off the board were 2 x 3V Lithium batteries. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a)Replace the SI batteries with the 3V lithiums that were there or > b) get a new OBC? Use the correct batteries. Lithium are actually 3.6 volts per cell rather than the 1.2 volts of a fully charged Ni-Cad, so I'd say the memory isn't getting enough back up volts. Also Ni-Cads are rechargeable and don't actually hold their charge very long unless being re-charged, so even if they had worked you'd have problems a few months down the line. Lithium are high capacity *non* rechargeable which *should* have a long life in this application. Signature*Indian Driver - Smoke signals only* Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. If I recall correctly this is a 1985 535i so there is no chance that the SI board was originally fitted with Lithium Ion batteries because there was no such thing in 1985. Ni Cads are the proper batteries for this board so whoever put the rechargeable lithium batteries on it may have damaged the electronics. >> OK - I've fitted the new NiCads (2 x 1.2V) but the batteries that came >> off the board were 2 x 3V Lithium batteries. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > are high capacity *non* rechargeable which *should* have a long life in > this application. > If I recall correctly this is a 1985 535i so there is no chance that the > SI board was originally fitted with Lithium Ion batteries because there > was no such thing in 1985. Ah, right. I've set my newsreader to expire posts after 14 days so haven't looked at the earlier part of the thread - if there is one. > Ni Cads are the proper batteries for this > board so whoever put the rechargeable lithium batteries on it may have > damaged the electronics. It might well have - we're looking at severe overvoltage. Wonder what possessed someone to do such a stupid thing? Cells are marked with their voltage. Signature*Can fat people go skinny-dipping? Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> If I recall correctly this is a 1985 535i so there is no chance that the >> SI board was originally fitted with Lithium Ion batteries because there [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > possessed someone to do such a stupid thing? Cells are marked with their > voltage. But the original SI board has obviously been replaced. The BMW replacements now have 3v Lithium non-rechargeable cells > But the original SI board has obviously been replaced. The BMW replacements > now have 3v Lithium non-rechargeable cells Sorry - should have mentioned that the SI board must have been replaced as it had a date of 1994 on the back when I took it apart. I'll put the 3v lithium's back - it'll be easy now I've soldered wires on and have the batteries in a seperate holder! Cheers Steve > > But the original SI board has obviously been replaced. The BMW > > replacements now have 3v Lithium non-rechargeable cells > Sorry - should have mentioned that the SI board must have been replaced > as it had a date of 1994 on the back when I took it apart. > I'll put the 3v lithium's back - it'll be easy now I've soldered wires > on and have the batteries in a seperate holder! Make sure they are indeed ok. If you have access to an analogue DVM with a sensitivity of about 10,000 ohms per volt use that as it will 'load' the battery. Signature*The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. On 5/1/07 16:37, in article 4ea082f03fdave@davenoise.co.uk, "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > Make sure they are indeed ok. If you have access to an analogue DVM with a > sensitivity of about 10,000 ohms per volt use that as it will 'load' the > battery. Ah - I meant I'd be fitting new ones as the originals are dead..... Steve >> No, when the batteries fail a few things can happen. It's more common >> for the yellow and red to be on all the time! I'd fit new NICADs, but be [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Steve The NiCads are indeed the correct batteries for this unless the SI board is one of the aftermarket replacements. You could replace them with the Lithium cells since it worked before but without knowing for sure... The UHR is GERMAN. Change it back to English and it will be fine. 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