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Car Forum / BMW Cars / January 2007

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Broken front strut on an E39

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Dave Plowman (News) - 02 Jan 2007 17:40 GMT
Today the plate that is welded to the strut and takes the bottom of the
spring decided to part company with the strut - wrecking the tyre in the
process. Is this a common fault? Seems to me it should be one of those
things that never ever breaks. Never seen it on any other strut suspension
car - and I've owned several old and high mileage ones. This car is under
80,000 miles and led a relatively gentle life.

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Mike G - 02 Jan 2007 17:55 GMT
> Today the plate that is welded to the strut and takes the bottom of the
> spring decided to part company with the strut - wrecking the tyre in the
> process. Is this a common fault? Seems to me it should be one of those
> things that never ever breaks. Never seen it on any other strut suspension
> car - and I've owned several old and high mileage ones. This car is under
> 80,000 miles and led a relatively gentle life.

It must have been faulty from new.
Like yourself, I have never seen a lower spring seat part company from a
strut in more decades than I care to remember.
Mike.
JB - 02 Jan 2007 19:42 GMT
> Today the plate that is welded to the strut and takes the bottom of the
> spring decided to part company with the strut - wrecking the tyre in the
> process. Is this a common fault? Seems to me it should be one of those
> things that never ever breaks. Never seen it on any other strut suspension
> car - and I've owned several old and high mileage ones. This car is under
> 80,000 miles and led a relatively gentle life.

Do you have any photos of the failed unit yet? Was it the weld failing or
the actual spring seat itself which parted company with the strut body?

JB
Dave Plowman (News) - 02 Jan 2007 23:21 GMT
> > Today the plate that is welded to the strut and takes the bottom of
> > the spring decided to part company with the strut - wrecking the tyre
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> >
> Do you have any photos of the failed unit yet?

No

> Was it the weld failing or the actual spring seat itself which parted
> company with the strut body?

Difficult to tell which at a cursory glance. But I *think* the weld failed.

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Thomas Wright - 03 Jan 2007 01:09 GMT
>>>Today the plate that is welded to the strut and takes the bottom of
>>>the spring decided to part company with the strut - wrecking the tyre
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Difficult to tell which at a cursory glance. But I *think* the weld failed.

BMW had a recall on this exact problem on the early E39's in the US.
Check bmwtips.com or your dealer to see if your car is affected.
Dave Plowman (News) - 03 Jan 2007 09:54 GMT
> BMW had a recall on this exact problem on the early E39's in the US.
> Check bmwtips.com or your dealer to see if your car is affected.

I've done a Google on this and there was a US recall in 2004 for exactly
this. The fix consists of adding a support bracket. However, it doesn't
seem to have been issued in the UK. No surprise there, given our smooth as
silk roads. ;-)

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Mike G - 03 Jan 2007 10:27 GMT
>> BMW had a recall on this exact problem on the early E39's in the US.
>> Check bmwtips.com or your dealer to see if your car is affected.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> seem to have been issued in the UK. No surprise there, given our smooth as
> silk roads. ;-)

Was that a general recall, or did it only apply to a specific batch of
E39's?
Seems an odd fix if it applied to all. More like a bodge than a sound
engineering solution.
I would have thaught the only real cure would have been to replace the
struts with ones having an improved spring seat fixing.
Mike.
Dave Plowman (News) - 03 Jan 2007 10:39 GMT
> > I've done a Google on this and there was a US recall in 2004 for
> > exactly this. The fix consists of adding a support bracket. However,
> > it doesn't seem to have been issued in the UK. No surprise there,
> > given our smooth as silk roads. ;-)

> Was that a general recall, or did it only apply to a specific batch of
> E39's?

Just says 1997 5 Series front suspension.

> Seems an odd fix if it applied to all. More like a bodge than a sound
> engineering solution.

Indeed.

> I would have thaught the only real cure would have been to replace the
> struts with ones having an improved spring seat fixing.

I assume they did do this on later units.

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Mike G - 03 Jan 2007 11:07 GMT
>> > I've done a Google on this and there was a US recall in 2004 for
>> > exactly this. The fix consists of adding a support bracket. However,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Just says 1997 5 Series front suspension.

Oh dear.
Sounds like it applies to the first of the E39's. Mine is a late '96, with
170k so hopefully if they haven't broken by now they're OK.
Mike
adder1969 - 03 Jan 2007 11:49 GMT
> Oh dear.
> Sounds like it applies to the first of the E39's. Mine is a late '96, with
> 170k so hopefully if they haven't broken by now they're OK.
> Mike

I remember when doing my '96 E38 that I thought that the spring seats
didn't seem too strong but they too haven't failed yet.
Dave Plowman (News) - 03 Jan 2007 14:13 GMT
> > Oh dear. Sounds like it applies to the first of the E39's. Mine is a
> > late '96, with 170k so hopefully if they haven't broken by now they're
> > OK. Mike

> I remember when doing my '96 E38 that I thought that the spring seats
> didn't seem too strong but they too haven't failed yet.

On the E39 the strut and seat are aluminium alloy. And yes, the seat
doesn't look strong enough.

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jimz - 02 Jan 2007 21:14 GMT
> Today the plate that is welded to the strut and takes the bottom of the
> spring decided to part company with the strut - wrecking the tyre in the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
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