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Car Forum / BMW Cars / January 2007Buy a legend for only 18k! Aren't you embarassed?
I've enjoyed this car for many years. What should I get next? http://over100percent.com/vette.htm '98 Black C5 Corvette Convertible. Red interior. Auto. All Options. 12 CD Player. Z51 Suspension. K&N Filter and Performance Exhaust. Great Condition. 114,000 miles. One owner. Private seller. More info at http://over100percent.com/vette.htm > I've enjoyed this car for many years. What should I get next? > http://over100percent.com/vette.htm > '98 Black C5 Corvette Convertible. Red interior. Auto. All Options. 12 CD > Player. Z51 Suspension. K&N Filter and Performance Exhaust. Great Condition. > 114,000 miles. One owner. Private seller. More info at > http://over100percent.com/vette.htm If you're moving *up* from a common Chevy, maybe a nice Buick would do ... -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; wouldn't own one) >> I've enjoyed this car for many years. What should I get next? >> http://over100percent.com/vette.htm [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > C.R. Krieger > (Been there; wouldn't own one) It is NOT a common Chevy. I drive an M3 and 540iT, but respect a C5 Corvette. Best value in a supercar. C6 is even better. Your showing your inner snob aren't I embarrassed??? in a chevy I would be! >>> I've enjoyed this car for many years. What should I get next? >>> http://over100percent.com/vette.htm [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Your showing your inner snob  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com <top posting f.ck-up corrected to aid clarity> >> It is NOT a common Chevy. I drive an M3 and 540iT, but respect a C5 >> Corvette. Best value in a supercar. C6 is even better. >> >> Your showing your inner snob >aren't I embarrassed??? in a chevy I would be! IMHFO, he's correct. The C5 is pretty damned respectable in most respects and the C6 is even better. The C5 and C6 have huge power even in standard form, and very decent handling. I can guarantee that you've never driven either of them if you make comments like that. Take your blinkers off. SignatureDan. > The C5 is pretty damned respectable in most respects and the C6 is > even better. The C5 and C6 have huge power even in standard form, and > very decent handling. They have a horse-and-cart leaf-spring suspension, for gawd's sake. It feels like there's no suspension at all on rough roads. Even a low-end BMW or Mini gives a better ride. >> The C5 is pretty damned respectable in most respects and the C6 is >> even better. The C5 and C6 have huge power even in standard form, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >feels like there's no suspension at all on rough roads. Even a low-end >BMW or Mini gives a better ride. Actually, it's IRS with a transverse leaf spring. There is none so blind as they that won't see. - Jonathan Swift. SignatureDan. >>> The C5 is pretty damned respectable in most respects and the C6 is >>> even better. The C5 and C6 have huge power even in standard form, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>feels like there's no suspension at all on rough roads. Even a low-end >>BMW or Mini gives a better ride. More seriously one has to wonder about the handling - whislt it is twenty years since I drove an American performance car (Pontiac Grand Am), it was one of the worst drives I have ever had - you had to open the window and listen for tyre squeal as you turned in because there was no road feel at all! Even a [contemporary] Ford Transit van was better. > Actually, it's IRS with a transverse leaf spring. Sounds contradictory - is each wheel separately sprung or do they share the transverse leaf (i.e. cart) spring? > There is none so blind as they that won't see. > - Jonathan Swift. >More seriously one has to wonder about the handling - whislt it is twenty >years since I drove an American performance car (Pontiac Grand Am), Hahaha!!! Pontiac Grand Am performance car! Good one! >> Actually, it's IRS with a transverse leaf spring. > >Sounds contradictory - is each wheel separately sprung or do they share the >transverse leaf (i.e. cart) spring? Since day one, I think, the Corvette has had a 4 link IRS with transverse leaf spring(s). These days it's done with two fiberglass composite leaf springs. Physically, the setup behaves exactly the same as coil springs would, and it even has some advantages like less weight, lower CoG, and more importantly, less *unsprung* weight. You can pull up plenty of information on it if you want to. SignatureDan. I *cannot believe* there are so many satire-impaired contributors here! I mean, I take a standard Smartass? shot at a spammer trying to sell his car by posting to every Usenet group he can find and you all *come to his defense*? And one of you even quotes Swift in the process! Talk about irony! At any rate ... > Since day one, I think, the Corvette has had a 4 link IRS with > transverse leaf spring(s). I guess if you're picking a 'Day One' at random, you might be right. But I know that Corvettes all had *solid axles* until 1963. Want to guess what held them up? > You can pull up plenty of information on it if you want to. No need to bother with my sense of history - and your lack of it. -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; drove that) >I *cannot believe* there are so many satire-impaired contributors here! > I mean, I take a standard Smartass© shot at a spammer trying to sell >his car by posting to every Usenet group he can find and you all *come >to his defense*? And one of you even quotes Swift in the process! >Talk about irony! The thread had moved on quite a bit until you stuck your poncy high and mighty nose back into it. >> Since day one, I think, the Corvette has had a 4 link IRS with >> transverse leaf spring(s). > >I guess if you're picking a 'Day One' at random, you might be right. >But I know that Corvettes all had *solid axles* until 1963. Want to >guess what held them up? So, they've had IRS for the past 40 some odd years? Excuuuuse me. Many "performance" cars had solid axles much more recently than that. >> You can pull up plenty of information on it if you want to. > >No need to bother with my sense of history - and your lack of it. I'm sorry to have offended you. I didn't realise that you were so clucking fever and special. SignatureDan. > >I *cannot believe* there are so many satire-impaired contributors here! > > I mean, I take a standard Smartass© shot at a spammer trying to sell [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The thread had moved on quite a bit until you stuck your poncy high > and mighty nose back into it. You mean all the way from the very first reply? And a whole bunch of defensive crap evidently taking it seriously? Yeah; that's "moved on quite a bit". > >> Since day one, I think, the Corvette has had a 4 link IRS with > >> transverse leaf spring(s). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > So, they've had IRS for the past 40 some odd years? Excuuuuse me. > Many "performance" cars had solid axles much more recently than that. Who's comparing the 'Vette to anything else? I'm comparing "Day One" to 1963 vs. 1953. That's a decade-long "Day One" which, in my book, is a little loose for even Chevrolet purposes. Do you make a habit of missing the point by that much? > I'm sorry to have offended you. I didn't realise that you were so > clucking fever and special. It's hard to be offended by humor - and I'm not. I mean, when I can toss off easy cheap shots like these and have luminaries such as yourself take any of them seriously ... "well, that's funny; I don't care who ya are." (- Larry the Cable Guy) -- C.R. Krieger (still mildly bemused) >> The thread had moved on quite a bit until you stuck your poncy high >> and mighty nose back into it. > >You mean all the way from the very first reply? And a whole bunch of >defensive crap evidently taking it seriously? Yeah; that's "moved on >quite a bit". Yep, it had moved on, it was not really related to your reply to the spammer (*why* do knee jerking twats feel the need to prove something by responding to spammers?) and the thread had proceeded from there without your "help." You seem to think that it's all about you. It isn't. You don't get it, do you? >> So, they've had IRS for the past 40 some odd years? Excuuuuse me. >> Many "performance" cars had solid axles much more recently than that. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >a little loose for even Chevrolet purposes. Do you make a habit of >missing the point by that much? Nope. You don't get it. >> I'm sorry to have offended you. I didn't realise that you were so >> clucking fever and special. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >yourself take any of them seriously ... "well, that's funny; I don't >care who ya are." (- Larry the Cable Guy) Larry the Cable Guy. <google> OK, I guess we know now where your intellect is coming from. That explains pretty much everything. <snicker> Bye, Einstein... SignatureDan. >>More seriously one has to wonder about the handling - whislt it is twenty >>years since I drove an American performance car (Pontiac Grand Am), > > Hahaha!!! Pontiac Grand Am performance car! Good one! Well it should have been - 3litre fuel injected engine in a small two door coupe - it should have been quick, but with a rubbish three speed auto box and whatever it was painfully slow. >>>More seriously one has to wonder about the handling - whislt it is twenty >>>years since I drove an American performance car (Pontiac Grand Am), [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >coupe - it should have been quick, but with a rubbish three speed auto box >and whatever it was painfully slow. But the Grand Am was never marketed as a performance car. At least not to anyone who had a clue. It was a mid 80s front wheel drive GM barge, loaded down with old technology smog controls. Trust me, no-one misses the damned things. SignatureDan. >>>>More seriously one has to wonder about the handling - whislt it is twenty >>>>years since I drove an American performance car (Pontiac Grand Am), [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >barge, loaded down with old technology smog controls. Trust me, no-one >misses the damned things. It was a rental fleet vehicle. And a total sled... >More seriously one has to wonder about the handling - whislt it is twenty >years since I drove an American performance car (Pontiac Grand Am), it was >one of the worst drives I have ever had - you had to open the window and >listen for tyre squeal as you turned in because there was no road feel at >all! Even a [contemporary] Ford Transit van was better. Where do you get the idea that the GM Pontiac Grand-Am was a "performance car"? Now if you said 426 Hemi Challenger, 440 Barracuda, 427 Boss Mustang (even the 351 cleveland engined car went around corners - not too good I admit) The Charger was also a "Performance" car but with the big engines 383, 440, 426 hemi performance was ONLY in a straight line. Lexus - Designed in the US Built in the US Should be kept in the US, Japan, Australia, Asia. Why! Australia has silly speed limits so nobody would notice the crap ride and handling as does Japan, Asia - driving is a novelty as is expensive looking cars so they wouldn't know the difference. US - again everybody drives so SLOW and nobody really knows where they are going. US BMW cars are very different to the EURO versions - Slower, Softer and heavier! BMW are building cars in China now - I thnik it is strange that Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia etc. residents or rather those that are economic refugees to the UK all seem to have Polish, Lituanian etc,. registered cars and they aer nearly all BMW or Mercedes (10 a penny crap really but look nice and expensive) My opinion and probably many others too. >> Actually, it's IRS with a transverse leaf spring. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> There is none so blind as they that won't see. >> - Jonathan Swift. Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen hsg@h-gee.co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK >US BMW cars are very different to the EURO versions - Slower, Softer and >heavier! I think you're full of sh.t. Prove the above allegations. >>US BMW cars are very different to the EURO versions - Slower, Softer and >>heavier! > >I think you're full of sh.t. Prove the above allegations. Dizzy - head in the clouds again? Look at the parts book. Look at the engine options. Look at what is available in Germany and the UK and compare to the US engine spec, body spec and above all look at what you CANNOT import from Euro land into the US without massive mods. Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen hsg@h-gee.co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK >>>US BMW cars are very different to the EURO versions - Slower, Softer and >>>heavier! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > look at what you CANNOT import from Euro land into the US without massive > mods. Actually, Hugh, a comparison of the UK and US BMW websites shows the following: In the 3 series, the slower 4 cyl and diesel models are available in the UK, but not the US. The "fastest" 3 series, the 335 petrol has the same acceleration specs for both markets. In the 6 series, the slower 6 cyl model is available in the UK, but not the US. The "fastest" 6 series, the 650 has the same acceleration specs for both markets. The M models are essentially the same for both markets. So, it seems that Dizzy has a good point. Tom K. >>>US BMW cars are very different to the EURO versions - Slower, Softer and >>>heavier! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >in Germany and the UK and compare to the US engine spec, body spec and above all >look at what you CANNOT import from Euro land into the US without massive mods. I think you're full of sh.t. Prove the above allegations. >>More seriously one has to wonder about the handling - whislt it is twenty >>years since I drove an American performance car (Pontiac Grand Am), it was [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Lituanian etc,. registered cars and they aer nearly all BMW or Mercedes (10 a >penny crap really but look nice and expensive) Dear Troll, The reason the ex-eastern block countries have a lot of BMW/Mercs is because the Germans do. Cars are very expensive in Poland (for the Poles), but man power is cheap, so the Poles buy in cars that are beyond economic repair from Germany, and then they fix them. They've done this for years. As for all the economic migrants turning up in the UK in BMW/Mercs, it just shows what you'd rather drive 1000 miles across Europe in. :-p Having said that, your statement is tosh anyway, I can currently see 2 Polish cars out of my window, both Renault. Dodgy. SignatureMUSHROOMS ARE THE OPIATE OF THE MOOSES >I've enjoyed this car for many years. What should I get next? >http://over100percent.com/vette.htm >'98 Black C5 Corvette Convertible. Red interior. Auto. All Options. 12 CD >Player. Z51 Suspension. K&N Filter and Performance Exhaust. Great Condition. >114,000 miles. One owner. Private seller. More info at >http://over100percent.com/vette.htm $18k. What a deal! 8) > >I've enjoyed this car for many years. What should I get next? > >http://over100percent.com/vette.htm [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > $18k. What a deal! 8) I know. That's why I've decided to lower the price to $15K FIRM. How's that? |
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