>>What are your thoughts on the X5 V8 vs the Cayenne S? The X5 seems more
>>high tech.
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>Ford own Land Rover now but they Bought it from BMW who stole it from ROVER
>along with the FWD technology of the mini.
But aren't you dodging the question of why BMW is offering more and
more Chelsea tractor variants? Are you saying that, unlike Porsche,
it's because they're doing it well, or what?
And on an unrelated note, Porsche finally has something - in their
Cayman S - that may tempt me to eventually swap my NSX for. BMW has
*nothing* in that class that competes, more's the pity.
My '01 e39 will also need to be replaced towards the end of this year,
mostly because the extended warranty will expire and I don't want to
foot the bill for more starter motors and fuel pumps like it's needed
so far, and ghod knows what's next.
I simply cannot come to terms with BMW's new styling, as much as I
have tried. Where does that leave me? I'm not trolling, this is not
cross-posted, it's an honest question.

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E Brown - 25 Jan 2007 01:46 GMT
>>>What are your thoughts on the X5 V8 vs the Cayenne S? The X5 seems more
>>>high tech.
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>have tried. Where does that leave me? I'm not trolling, this is not
>cross-posted, it's an honest question.
The X5 is, imo, a better car than the Cayenne, which has a poor
reputation as far as reliability. An amazing car, but I think the X5
fills the niche better (especially with the new engines).
As far as BMW not having a Cayman competitor - the car it's most
often compared to is a BMW: the Z4 M Coupe. The BMW's handling isn't
as refined, but it's a better value considering how close they are in
performance vs. the difference in price.
As for not getting on board with the new styling, I think that's
shortsighted as everyone else seems to be following the trend. But if
for some reason BMW went under tomorrow, my next choice would be Audi.
epbrown
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>>What are your thoughts on the X5 V8 vs the Cayenne S? The X5 seems more
>>high tech.
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> ROVER
> along with the FWD technology of the mini.
IIRC BMW did pay a pound for Rover, which was about what it was worth at the
time.
The idea that BMW 'stole' front wheel drive technology from Rover, when in
fact is was pioneered by Citroen before the war and any patents have long
since run out is fanciful to say the least.
> Sir Hugh of Bognor
hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 25 Jan 2007 09:48 GMT
>>>What are your thoughts on the X5 V8 vs the Cayenne S? The X5 seems more
>>>high tech.
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>IIRC BMW did pay a pound for Rover, which was about what it was worth at the
>time.
NO NO NO - BMW paid millions - they sold it to a consortium of Ex Rover
directors for £10 (ten GB Pounds CASH)
>The idea that BMW 'stole' front wheel drive technology from Rover, when in
>fact is was pioneered by Citroen before the war and any patents have long
>since run out is fanciful to say the least.
Yes I know that Citroen had FWD before the war and so did JOWETT before Citroen.
JOWETT also had air cooled engines (2CV) and a flat 4 arrangement (2CV?)
The mini was developed on a canteen tablecloth by Alec Issignosis as a
replacement for the Austin A30/A35 & Morris Minor - It did replace the A35 but
not the Morris Minor that was so loved by little old ladies and carpenters!
Sir Hugh of Bognor
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