Could it be true that a Nissan Sentra (e.g. a Nissan Sentra B13) with
a 2000cc displacement could outperform (in speed issues 0 to 60) a BMW
325i or a BMW 330i. We are talking about a whole difference in prices.
Of course you've got BMW status, refinement, safety, luxury feeling,
but what about the speed? (I am not a Nissan fan, I own a 2004 525i,
but was amazed at hearing a discusion in that matter in another
forum). Thanks!
pltrgyst - 01 Mar 2007 18:39 GMT
>Could it be true that a Nissan Sentra (e.g. a Nissan Sentra B13) with
>a 2000cc displacement could outperform (in speed issues 0 to 60) a BMW
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>but was amazed at hearing a discusion in that matter in another
>forum). Thanks!
There is no surprise at all there. Zero to 60 is one tiny, miniscule performance
parameter that has very little to do with the overall value of a car, and
everything to do with power-to-weight ratio.
I've got a 1600cc Ford-engined car worth about $5K that will leave any
street-legal production BMW (or, for that matter, Ferrari) *ever built* in the
dust 0-60. Who cares?
-- Larry
Dean Dark - 01 Mar 2007 20:27 GMT
>I've got a 1600cc Ford-engined car worth about $5K that will leave any
>street-legal production BMW (or, for that matter, Ferrari) *ever built* in the
>dust 0-60. Who cares?
You're getting 0-60 from a 1600 cc Ford engine in 3.5 seconds???
What's its spec, and what's in - a motor cycle?

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hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 01 Mar 2007 20:39 GMT
>>I've got a 1600cc Ford-engined car worth about $5K that will leave any
>>street-legal production BMW (or, for that matter, Ferrari) *ever built* in the
>>dust 0-60. Who cares?
>
>You're getting 0-60 from a 1600 cc Ford engine in 3.5 seconds???
Not hard to do - my drag race cortina (US Pinto) would do 0-60 in 4.2 secs and a
1/4 mile in 11.3 with seats and windshield and that was in 1968/69. Terminal
speed was around 105 - 107. Revs approaching 8K.
1967 saw my Hillman IMP 1000cc car with seats (super stock) turn 11.3 @ 114mph
and I still have the timing slip or rather did have until I cleared my mother's
house last month after she died and sold everything at auction.
Including all my tools and garage equipment.
>What's its spec, and what's in - a motor cycle?
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SharkmanBMW - 01 Mar 2007 21:39 GMT
sorry about your mother...
>>>I've got a 1600cc Ford-engined car worth about $5K that will leave any
>>>street-legal production BMW (or, for that matter, Ferrari) *ever built*
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> hsg@h-gee.co.uk
> Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

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hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 02 Mar 2007 09:07 GMT
>sorry about your mother...
Thanks - appreciated....
Hugh
>>>>I've got a 1600cc Ford-engined car worth about $5K that will leave any
>>>>street-legal production BMW (or, for that matter, Ferrari) *ever built*
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>> hsg@h-gee.co.uk
>> Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
pltrgyst - 01 Mar 2007 23:29 GMT
>>You're getting 0-60 from a 1600 cc Ford engine in 3.5 seconds???
>Not hard to do - my drag race cortina (US Pinto) would do 0-60 in 4.2 secs and a
>1/4 mile in 11.3 with seats and windshield and that was in 1968/69....
Yep. Mine are a Formula Ford and a Lotus Super Seven. Gearing set up for
autocross is a wonderful thing. 8;)
-- Larry
Dean Dark - 02 Mar 2007 11:02 GMT
>>>You're getting 0-60 from a 1600 cc Ford engine in 3.5 seconds???
>
>Gearing set up for
>autocross is a wonderful thing. 8;)
Hmmm. Hardly 'road going,' though. You need to compare apples to
apples, not track to road, to be meaningful.

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Pete - 01 Mar 2007 19:19 GMT
> Could it be true that a Nissan Sentra (e.g. a Nissan Sentra B13) with
> a 2000cc displacement could outperform (in speed issues 0 to 60) a BMW
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> but was amazed at hearing a discusion in that matter in another
> forum). Thanks!
I guess I'm surprised to see you surprised. Since when has swift
acceleration been expensive to manufacture? Most of the American so called
muscle cars that cost half as much as your e60 can accelerate in straight
line from 0 to 60 in less time than your e60. So? How about handling in
the corners? Hepefully you didn't buy your 525i thinking you got the
fastest car in the world... when you were buying, there was a 545i on the
menu and later an M5 too, just in case you missed it. :)
BTW, a little MazdaSpeed3 will smoke the Sentra and the 530i in straight
0-60. But again, so what?
Cheers,
Pete
SharkmanBMW - 01 Mar 2007 21:36 GMT
The point is this:
a BMW is a joy to drive in general... not just straight.
Twisties, hills, track, highway at 125mph..... none of which your shitbox
nissan has a chance at doing, let alone doing well.
> Could it be true that a Nissan Sentra (e.g. a Nissan Sentra B13) with
> a 2000cc displacement could outperform (in speed issues 0 to 60) a BMW
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> but was amazed at hearing a discusion in that matter in another
> forum). Thanks!

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Karl North - 02 Mar 2007 01:06 GMT
> Could it be true that a Nissan Sentra (e.g. a Nissan Sentra B13) with
> a 2000cc displacement could outperform (in speed issues 0 to 60) a BMW
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> but was amazed at hearing a discusion in that matter in another
> forum). Thanks!
Hi,
I currently have a 1998 540iA, a 1998 M3 Sedan, a supercharged 2001 Miata
LS, and (as of last week) a 2006 Sentra SE-R Spec V. I have to say that yes
the highline Sentra does rock! I am very amazed by the quality control on
the Sentra SE-R. It has a 2.5L with a 6 Speed Manual Tranny. It is much
better than the 01 Maxima SE that I had a couple of years ago.
I find that the Sentra SE-R out handles my M3 in the twisties and straight
aways. I have had a long love affair with BMW but I got the Sentra CHEAP on
eBay. It will become my daily driver. I'm selling the 540i (Which I
literally JUST bought a few weeks ago) and shipping the M3 off to have the
engine / trans rebuilt in Georgia by a Bavarian Auto Shop.
My ONLY issue with the Sentra SE-R is that when I'm in a deep corner and I
apply more gas the front wheel drive seems to fight me a bit... but that's
something that I feel in all front wheel drive cars.
As for the Miata... she has a special place in my heart and is not going
anywhere. :-)
Just my .02 cents worth.
-Karl N.
Jeremy - 03 Mar 2007 20:07 GMT
> Just my .02 cents worth.
http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-
from-cents.html

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