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Car Forum / BMW Cars / May 2007

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E39 Door lock problem.

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Mike G - 03 May 2007 18:48 GMT
528i '97 model.
Bought about 6 months ago but I've only just noticed that the keys don't
work in the door lock. Not siezed as the barrel moves slightly. The keys
enter OK, they  just don't turn.
Both work fine with the buttons, and also manually on the boot and glove box
locks.

I have two 3 button master keys. One I bought new from BMW a couple of
months ago.
Just wondered if this was a common fault with a known fix, or do I have to
find out for myself what's wrong after removing the door card, and maybe
stripping the lock.
TIA.
Mike.
Haydon - 03 May 2007 20:10 GMT
First thing I would try is to squirt plenty on lube in the lock, then use
the key to work the lube around the lock barrel/tumblers.

> 528i '97 model.
> Bought about 6 months ago but I've only just noticed that the keys don't
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> TIA.
> Mike.
Jeff Strickland - 03 May 2007 23:40 GMT
If all of the keys work in the ignition but none of them work in the doors
then either the door or ignition lock sets have been changed and are no
longer the same, or the key is not going fully into the door lock.

> 528i '97 model.
> Bought about 6 months ago but I've only just noticed that the keys don't
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> TIA.
> Mike.
Mike G - 04 May 2007 01:53 GMT
> If all of the keys work in the ignition but none of them work in the doors
> then either the door or ignition lock sets have been changed and are no
> longer the same, or the key is not going fully into the door lock.

You could be right, but as the door lock barrel is subject to so little
wear, I'm inclined to think it's more likely that the tumblers, pawls, in
the barrel, whatever they are called have siezed. Not the barrel itself.
That seems quite free. Or, or something has broken, stopping the barrel from
turning. The key enters fully. It just doesn't turn.
Mike.
Jeff Strickland - 04 May 2007 21:28 GMT
>> If all of the keys work in the ignition but none of them work in the
>> doors then either the door or ignition lock sets have been changed and
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> from turning. The key enters fully. It just doesn't turn.
> Mike.

If you think you have seized tumblers, then you need graphite.
Mike G - 05 May 2007 02:05 GMT
>>> If all of the keys work in the ignition but none of them work in the
>>> doors then either the door or ignition lock sets have been changed and
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>
> If you think you have seized tumblers, then you need graphite.

First I need to find out what's wrong with it. Graphite is not going to free
it off.
Whatever is preventing it turning is mechanical. Of that I'm certain.
I'm not concerned about fixing it. Whatever the cause I'm quite capable of
either repairing it or fitting a new lock. I just thaught if it was a known
fault it might save me some time.
Mike.
Jeff Strickland - 05 May 2007 15:58 GMT
>>>> If all of the keys work in the ignition but none of them work in the
>>>> doors then either the door or ignition lock sets have been changed and
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> known fault it might save me some time.
> Mike.

There is no known fault that I am aware of.
Oscar@nowhere.com - 05 May 2007 17:08 GMT
>>>>> If all of the keys work in the ignition but none of them work in the
>>>>> doors then either the door or ignition lock sets have been changed and
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>
>There is no known fault that I am aware of.

Eh!  There is - otherwise it would work ------- Oh I see you are not aware of
the fault just that there is one or you know there isn't a fault and you can't
understand why it wont work.

It is possible to dismantle the lock but unless you class your mechanical skill
akin to that of a watchmaker then I'd try the penetrating oil route first
possibly playing a hair drier on it at the same time to get the thing expanded
slightly and maybe free of anything that might be gumming up the works.

Often well meaning persons put a little oil in the locks on a service but often
the oil can is not "gun" oil or light machine oil but heavy engine oil - it has
been known that people use cooking oil to lubricate delicate things like locks
and sewing machines and wonder in 2 months time when the thing sticks together
like glue it don't work.

Just a thought!
dizzy - 06 May 2007 06:07 GMT
>There is no known fault that I am aware of.

'Course, Jeffy is also not "aware of" things like evolution.
 
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