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Car Forum / BMW Cars / May 2007E46 M3 in Carbon Black/Cinnamon
Hey all, Well, I have been patiently searching for an 04-05 M3 in Carbon Black/ Cinnamon now for 5 months, with no luck. I'm looking for a fully loaded model (PP, CWP, Nav, HK, Xenons, 19's, etc); either SMG or 6MT. Anyone here have or know of one, please let me know. I know what I want, but I guess that's not a good thing if you can't find it? :) Thanks chad On May 23, 9:18 am, "r...@psci.net" <r...@psci.net> wrote: > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks > chad I'd spend more time working out if you want the MT or SMG. > On May 23, 9:18 am, "r...@psci.net" <r...@psci.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'd spend more time working out if you want the MT or SMG. And even more importantly, do you want it in the US, Europe or Asia...  Signature-Fred W > > On May 23, 9:18 am, "r...@psci.net" <r...@psci.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > And even more importantly, do you want it in the US, Europe or Asia... US model... chad > > On May 23, 9:18 am, "r...@psci.net" <r...@psci.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > And even more importantly, do you want it in the US, Europe or Asia... US model... chad Friend. I feel your pain... I have been looking for the same thing(but for a longer time) but in JETBLACK. you and i want the same thing but no luck. I have been down south and up north.I want a MANUAL though.. have you been to any of the websites for M3? they have a lot of good stuff in there. good luck http://www.e46fanatics.com/ http://bimmer.roadfly.com/bmw/forums/e46m3/ http://m3.madrussian.net/index.html >On May 23, 9:18 am, "r...@psci.net" <r...@psci.net> wrote: >> Hey all, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I'd spend more time working out if you want the MT or SMG. On May 23, 9:18 am, "r...@psci.net" <r...@psci.net> wrote: > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks > chad I'd spend more time working out if you want the MT or SMG. > On May 23, 9:18 am, "r...@psci.net" <r...@psci.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'd spend more time working out if you want the MT or SMG. I've driven both several times. I like aspects of both. I had been leaning toward 6MT, but I'd take SMG if I can find it on a 'cherry' M3 in color/options I want. chad Not the most common color combination, plus full-zoot options. Lotsa luck. Try Roundel and Roadfly. You might want to settle for a different color combination. BMW Nav is mediocre, I'd avoid it. Other option is a new 335i coupe. Very close in performance and better ride quality. Then you can custom order the exact car you want. R / John > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks > chad > Not the most common color combination, plus full-zoot options. Lotsa luck. > Try Roundel and Roadfly. You might want to settle for a different color > combination. BMW Nav is mediocre, I'd avoid it. Talking about color combinations, I am completely astounded by the number of new BMW buyers that choose gray leather interiors. Gawd! They look like complete sh.t after 50k miles or less. Don't people do *any* research before they plunk down their money? I would never buy a BMW with that light gray interior. Signature-Fred W >> Not the most common color combination, plus full-zoot options. Lotsa >> luck. Try Roundel and Roadfly. You might want to settle for a different [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I would never buy a BMW with that light gray interior. Well, he said cinammon ... pretty nice looking. I've got Sand, but it's surface dyed vice vat dyed and shows its age early. I'd guess that 80% of all US bimmers are silver, white or black. Most popular interior color black. R / John >>>Not the most common color combination, plus full-zoot options. Lotsa >>>luck. Try Roundel and Roadfly. You might want to settle for a different [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > R / John Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. Sand leather and Black leather seem to fold up much better than the Gray. If you look at the used cars available on line there is a predominance of nasty gray interiors. Silver over black is the classic german car color scheme. I'd take that any day. Signature-Fred W > Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called > "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. US models have four color options; black, gray, Imola Red, and Cinnamon. There is no 'natural' per se. > Sand leather and Black leather seem to fold up much better than the Gray. I like sand leather on some cars. Lexus has a metallic blue with sand leather that is gorgeous. > Silver over black is the classic german car color scheme. I'd take that > any day. True, and as soon as the German's or you fork over the $40,000 I'll take that combo. If it's my $40k, it'll be exactly what I want. chad >> Well, he said cinammon ... pretty nice looking. I've got Sand, but it's >> surface dyed vice vat dyed and shows its age early. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called > "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. There were at least a couple years where cinnamon was an M3 interior color. Nice deep tan shade. R / john > Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called > "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. Wrong again Fred - E46/M3 has a color called cinnamon and it's nothing at all like "Natur" - it is almost red (like cinnamon) > Sand leather and Black leather seem to fold up much better than the Gray. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Silver over black is the classic german car color scheme. I'd take that > any day. Boring.. >> Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called >> "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. > > Wrong again Fred - E46/M3 has a color called cinnamon and it's nothing > at all like "Natur" - it is almost red (like cinnamon) OK, I'm not really up on the later models. Mea culpa. I'll have to look it up. Oh, and I like boring in my interiors and seats (not in engines or chassis). That's why I like BMWs over Asian cars. ;-) Signature-Fred W > >> Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called > >> "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > -Fred W There's a Black on Cinnamon '05 M3 on eBay with lots of pics. Item #220114931984. It's a lovely combo. - greg >>>>Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called >>>>"Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > - greg Yes! That is the color I thought they were calling Natur. I guess Natur was a bit more brown, less orangy. You are right./ That is a hot looking car. But, maybe I'm just getting too old, but those 19" wheels seem a bit too large. The tires are like rubber bands. I'd be afraid to drive that down the street for fear of bending the crap out of them. Still, they do look nice. Signature-Fred W >>>>>Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called >>>>>"Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > too large. The tires are like rubber bands. I'd be afraid to drive that > down the street for fear of bending the crap out of them. You need to move to where somebody takes care of the roads. The ONLY time I've hit a hole in the road that caused any sort of damage at all was in a construction zone where they neglected to put a plate over a 3 ~ 6 inch ditch that was cut across the road. Had I not been exceeding the speed limit by a significant margin, I would have seen the fast-approaching ditch, and could have made any number of adjustments to preclude the direct hit. Having said that, I think that 19s on a 3 Series is a bit much too. I like them with 18s, and mine has 17s. > You need to move to where somebody takes care of the roads. Actually, I do *live* where they take care of the roads. New Hampshire roads are surprisingly well maintained considering the harsh winter weather. But my home state is small and I often have to venture south of the border into Massachusetts. With all the taxes they collect they prefer to patch the potholes rather than repair the roads. Some of the worst road surfaces in the world. Signature-Fred W >> You need to move to where somebody takes care of the roads. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > prefer to patch the potholes rather than repair the roads. Some of the > worst road surfaces in the world. Thank Ted for that ... ERAAA Joanie... pass the Chivas.... eraa... >>> You need to move to where somebody takes care of the roads. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Thank Ted for that ... >....But my home state is small and I often have to venture south of >> the border into Massachusetts. With all the taxes they collect they >> prefer to patch the potholes rather than repair the roads. Some of the >> worst road surfaces in the world. > >Thank Ted for that ... What's he got to do with it? -- Larry >>....But my home state is small and I often have to venture south of >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What's he got to do with it? Good question. Last time I checked the US Senate doesn't have much to do with the condition of roads in any state. Also, the roads in Mass were crap back when Ted was still a young pup driving girls off bridges. Signature-Fred W >> You need to move to where somebody takes care of the roads. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > prefer to patch the potholes rather than repair the roads. Some of the > worst road surfaces in the world. You should try Norwegian roads. They are awful. Even the potholes have potholes on the road I use to and from work - and it's not even a backroad of some sort. The ruts are so deep they are worn through the 2 topmost layers of tarmac. I sh.t you not. And they say we are among the richest countries in the world? I'd like to see more of that money used on infrastructure. SignatureLighthouses are more helpful than churches. -- Benjamin Franklin >>> You need to move to where somebody takes care of the roads. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >And they say we are among the richest countries in the world? I'd like >to see more of that money used on infrastructure. Hi Where in Norge are you? Roads in the South are pretty good these days or rather they were 5 years ago. Few "Motorways" in the south radiating from Oslo down to SKI (my family's home town) and the border with Sweden and the rest of Euroland. The road from Lillihamer to Trondheim is crap as is the road from Kongsberg up to Numadal, and on to Geilo. The road from Trondheim via Lom to Geiranger is also crap and only open for 4 months. Yes I agree and I bet there are not many BMW 7 series Sport models there. [snip about roads in Norway] >> And they say we are among the richest countries in the world? I'd like >> to see more of that money used on infrastructure. > > Hi > > Where in Norge are you? I live just outside Oslo, and the "motorways" are in quite good condition, but also they have ruts, but the connecting roads are crap. Twisty, rollercoasting roads which are excellent for inspired driving. Just a shame about the tarmac being in the condition it is. Cracks, potholes, ruts, frost induced bulges (not sure of the english word). > Roads in the South are pretty good these days or rather > they were 5 years ago. Yeah, I remember they were better then than now, but still crap. > Few "Motorways" in the south radiating from Oslo down to > SKI (my family's home town) and the border with Sweden and the rest of Euroland. Yeah, those roads have gotten better, but they are the connection between Sweden and the rest of Europe. Can't shame ourselves with have bad roads there, eh? As for the rest of the roads: Let's build a tunnel costing NOK 1 billion, or a bridge or for that matter, for 50-60 inhabitants on a remote island on the westcoast of Norway and forget about the 3-4 million people living in the southeast of Norway. > The road from Lillihamer to Trondheim is crap as is the road from Kongsberg up > to Numadal, and on to Geilo. The road from Trondheim via Lom to Geiranger is > also crap and only open for 4 months. Exactly. > Yes I agree and I bet there are not many BMW 7 series Sport models there. I don't think I've seen one. SignatureLighthouses are more helpful than churches. -- Benjamin Franklin was that in NY by any chance? I love that excuse that the road people use snow, cold weather, screws up the roads... I have ben to places where the weather is just as cold and with just as much snow, and the roads are like florida,or for that matter any other state where yes you are right -they take care of the roads. >>>>>>Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called >>>>>>"Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >Having said that, I think that 19s on a 3 Series is a bit much too. I like >them with 18s, and mine has 17s. > > >> Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called > > >> "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > There's a Black on Cinnamon '05 M3 on eBay with lots of pics. Item > #220114931984. It's a lovely combo. Nice car, but no Nav, or CWP.. chad >> > >> Agreed, except there is no BMW interior color cinnamon. It's called >> > >> "Natur" I think, and I happen to like it. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Nice car, but no Nav, or CWP.. You can't always get what you want, but sometimes you just might find that you get what you need. Having had a Garmin GPS, I found that a nav system built into a car is not nearly as useful as a nav system that I can put in my suitcase when I travel. I can easily find my way around everywhere I am likely to drive from my house, it's the places I drive that I need to fly first to get to that make a nav system something I might want. If I found 8 of 10 things I wanted in a car, the missing nav system would not make me walk away. If the nav system was there, I'd take it, but I don't think I'd actually use it. Your mileage may vary. What's CWP? > <r...@psci.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Cold weather Package. >> <r...@psci.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Cold weather Package. Another option I don't need here in California ... One can easily find a nav system that surpasses the features and functions of the unit the manufacturer installs, but if the CWP is a requirement, then that has to come with the car, or be set aside in favor of the remaining features and functions of the used car(s) that one can actually find. >>> <r...@psci.net> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > favor of the remaining features and functions of the used car(s) that > one can actually find. Besides, who would drive an M3 in the snow? Signature-Fred W > >>> <r...@psci.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Besides, who would drive an M3 in the snow? A November day in Indiana in the morning can be pretty cool. Leather will be nice and cold from the overnight. I want my a.s warmed. :) Also, the ski bag pass thru is important to me for hauling issues... chad > Talking about color combinations, I am completely astounded by the > number of new BMW buyers that choose gray leather interiors. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I would never buy a BMW with that light gray interior. Agreed. It doesn't last and I think the rest of the interior accents that are gray look cheap. The cinnamon adds a nice two-tone look that really spruces up the interior (which they offered two tone seat leather like the last gen M5's). chad >Talking about color combinations, I am completely astounded by the >number of new BMW buyers that choose gray leather interiors. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I would never buy a BMW with that light gray interior. Thst's your opinion, fine -- so don't buy one. What's the point of knocking other people who do? De gustibus non disputandum est. Sip some Mortlach and it'll all go away. My wife is still extremely happy with her '02 325i, dark metallic grey with the grey leather interior, sports seats. etc. It's had only one leather treatment since we picked it up in Munich, and still looks like new. -- Larry >>Talking about color combinations, I am completely astounded by the >>number of new BMW buyers that choose gray leather interiors. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thst's your opinion, fine -- so don't buy one. What's the point of knocking > other people who do? De gustibus non disputandum est. The knock is, the seats look like crap after only a couple of years. They show every bit of dirt and look shoddy. If the buyer looked at what 3-4 year old BMWs with the gray leather seats look like and compared them to the other interior colors, they wouldn't buy the gray. Signature-Fred W >The knock is, the seats look like crap after only a couple of years. >They show every bit of dirt and look shoddy. If the buyer looked at >what 3-4 year old BMWs with the gray leather seats look like and >compared them to the other interior colors, they wouldn't buy the gray. I repeat: ours look like they did when we picked the car up. No dirt; no stains; no fading; no evident wear. Grey, sports pkg seats, 12-way adjustment, etc. It's not the leather's fault if other people don't give it normal, minimal care. -- Larry >>The knock is, the seats look like crap after only a couple of years. >>They show every bit of dirt and look shoddy. If the buyer looked at [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -- Larry Perhaps you are right, Larry. It's just that every used BMW I have ever looked with the light gray seats, they show the dirt and staining from use. Black, never see it. Tan for some reason is less prevalent. Signature-Fred W >> I repeat: ours look like they did when we picked the car up. No dirt; no stains; >> no fading; no evident wear. Grey, sports pkg seats, 12-way adjustment, etc. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >looked with the light gray seats, they show the dirt and staining from >use. Black, never see it. Tan for some reason is less prevalent. In my younger years, I rarely saw any leather except tan, and it was often full of crack, and in horrible shape overall. I'm with you guys in thinking that black or tan leather generally looks better with most exterior colors. But we went with the grey for two reasons: 1), hoping it would be a bit coller than the black would be here in VA, and 2) because all the '02 interiors had the same two-tone grey upper dash and upper door trim, and we thought the grey looked best with those unavoidable greys. And we're still pretty pleased with the overall look. Personally, I think the black exterior with dark tan interior would be the best looking of all, but only if *all* the interior elements are color coordinated. -- Larry > In my younger years, I rarely saw any leather except tan, and it was >often full of crack.... ummm, "cracks"... >But we went with the grey for two reasons: 1), hoping it would be a >bit coller than the black would be here in VA.... and "cooler". Bad fingers; no donuts. -- Larry test >> Not the most common color combination, plus full-zoot options. Lotsa luck. >> Try Roundel and Roadfly. You might want to settle for a different color [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I would never buy a BMW with that light gray interior. what nav unit would you reccomend other than the BMW system? I know there are plenty out there.. i think the 2004,5,6 has the DVD nav rather than the CD as in earlier models.. Gig >Not the most common color combination, plus full-zoot options. Lotsa luck. >Try Roundel and Roadfly. You might want to settle for a different color [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> Thanks >> chad Another poster gave us this, but he posted pretty far down the list of respondants. Go to eBay and check Item Number 220114931984. (Crap! I closed my browser. The car is almost exactly what you are looking for, and has 17,000 miles.) > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks > chad wow!!! thats close!! 16K and new tires? wonder why.... but either way it looks like a nice car >Another poster gave us this, but he posted pretty far down the list of >respondants. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Thanks >> chad I love a light interior. but you are right. they get too dirty too quicky I am looking for the same thing... but in jet black but in manual.. the BMW nav does stink, but i wanted to keep the integrity of the car. and besides in NY the installers aint that swift(not like they are on the west coast).... yes there are betternav systems around.. i dont trust anyone to put it in. but first things first.. first car .. I have a black on black E36, and I'll avoid ever buying a black car again. It looks great when it rolls out of the wash rack, but it is a Royal Bitch to keep clean. I had a white on black E36 before I had this car, and the white was much easier to keep clean -- or, at least ignore when it was dirty. > I love a light interior. > but you are right. they get too dirty too quicky [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > i dont trust anyone to put it in. > but first things first.. first car .. I'm a bit of a nut when it comes tokeeping my black 4 runner clean and when i mean clean i mean waxed, and detailed to the maximum.. To me it's a labor of love. I know it does take a good amout of time to detail a car and i have been known to spend 2- 3 hrs from begining to end. I also have been know to use distilled water too. these are things you do when you have a black car. Gig >I have a black on black E36, and I'll avoid ever buying a black car again. >It looks great when it rolls out of the wash rack, but it is a Royal Bitch [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> i dont trust anyone to put it in. >> but first things first.. first car .. > I love a light interior. > but you are right. they get too dirty too quicky > I am looking for the same thing... but in jet black but in manual.. > the BMW nav does stink, but i wanted to keep the integrity of the > car. I know of a JB/Cinn 04 with 6MT; no nav tho. Around 35k miles. chad thanks for the reply.... with me Nav is a big thing with me... also a sunroof is too... wish i could find a good one with 35K.Iwant to keep the integrity of the vehicle. I have been looking all over i'll find one soon... DVD NAV is also better than the CD NAV THANKS... >> I love a light interior. >> but you are right. they get too dirty too quicky [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >chad
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