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Car Forum / BMW Cars / May 2007

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20's on 2002 325Ci

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buff44@comcast.net - 25 May 2007 01:49 GMT
I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in
20".  Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a
wheel this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.
Jeff Strickland - 25 May 2007 02:12 GMT
Personally, I think you are asking for trouble.

Assuming you have 225/45x17s now, you'll need a 225/30x20 or 235/25x20 to
keep the overall diameter at about the same as you currently have.

Your sidewall height will go from just under 4" to about 2.5". The 235's
will give a better result from the perspective of gear ratios and speedo
accuracy -- although the speedo is slow now, and it will be a bit more slow
with the change. The 235s will fit the back okay (if a bit tight), but I'm
not sure they will fit on the front.

Troubles with gear ratios notwithstanding, I think you are asking for
serious problems with a loss of 1.5" of sidewall.

>I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in
> 20".  Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a
> wheel this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.
Pete - 25 May 2007 04:39 GMT
<buff44@comcast.net> wrote
>I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in
> 20".  Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a
> wheel this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.

How much do they weigh?

Pete
dizzy - 26 May 2007 23:31 GMT
buff44 wrote:

> I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in 20".
> Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a wheel
> this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.

Well, now you're being told that you're nuts.

If you've seen an E46 with even 19" wheels, like the optional M3 wheels,
you'd know that even that is really pushing it.
. - 27 May 2007 01:47 GMT
forget the bling bling...with the money you want to spend on the rims, you
could put enough into the engine to make it a kick a.s sleeper.
>I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in
> 20".  Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a
> wheel this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.
Oscar@nowhere.com - 27 May 2007 09:13 GMT
>I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in
>20".  Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a
>wheel this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.

Don't US cars come with wheels?  I have always found that stock wheels are just
fine with stock suspension and the Bling factor will only make it more desirable
to thieves.  In the UK insurance premiums rocket skywards when aftermarket
wheels are fitted and engine mods are really a no-go unless one purports to be
in the "TRADE" with trade insurance - this allows one to drive any piece of gold
or crap they have a licence for.
pltrgyst - 27 May 2007 15:45 GMT
>....  In the UK insurance premiums rocket skywards when aftermarket
>wheels are fitted ...

How does an insurance company find out -- and why do they care --
about aftermarket wheels? Do your policies require that you report any
modifications to the car? That is not the case in the US.

-- Larry
Oscar@nowhere.com - 27 May 2007 16:28 GMT
>>....  In the UK insurance premiums rocket skywards when aftermarket
>>wheels are fitted ...
>
>How does an insurance company find out -- and why do they care --
>about aftermarket wheels? Do your policies require that you report any
>modifications to the car? That is not the case in the US.

I think you find that for third party claims that is true but if you want to
claim for something that isn't part of a car's specification like $2000 wheels
when they think it only had $500 you might be short changed slightly.

It doesn't matter where you are any Insurance is a private contract between you
and the person (company) covering your actions. If you happen to be banned or
suspended from driving you are also uninsured.

Ah!  So trusting.  Your insurance is a legal contract between you and the
insurance company and the risk you are to them is dependent on the information
you supply.  Supply lies or incorrect info and not contract

How do they know - YOU TELL THEM.

Now you are thinking Tosser (jerk)

However, If you have lied then the contract is null and void or in simple terms
NOT VALID and you are thus UN-INSURED because the risk factor for theft is now
different to what it would be with stock wheels that only cost - say - $500 so
if they want to, and I doubt if they would, only pay for stock wheels and not
$2000 for Bling Bling wheels.

If the car was in a fatal crash they could and probably would refuse to pay out
as they would say that the car NEVER came with those wheels and they never knew
about them and were not tested for use with that car.

Same with engine mods.  You insure a 318i with auto trans but later stuff in a
small block 400CID Chevy with 400bhp but do nothing to anything else.   One
thing it won't do is go around corners or even stop with stock piddly brakes.
And then not tell me the risk has changed - no insurance.

Insurance company's risks are much greater than a stock 318i especially if some
17 year old is trying to control it.

Gambling is much the same - who always wins at the tables?  The banker or Casino
owner.  Why?  The odds are in his favour.  If you kept winning the risk of him
losing is greater so they ban you from gambling at their Casino.

Risk factor.  Tell you what.  I will cover you life for $1,000,000 providing you
don't commit suicide or indulge in dangerous sports such as Drag racing, hang
gliding, Motor racing, Snowboarding or simila.  Also you must not ride a bicycle
in New York without a crash helmet.  If you were riding a bike in New York and
fell off and land on your head without a crash helmet I would say that that is
not part of the risk I am coveringt and I would not pay out.  I think the risks
involved are a little too much for you to even think about it.
E28 Guy© - 30 May 2007 20:24 GMT
On May 27, 3:13 am, O...@nowhere.com wrote:

> >I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in
> >20".  Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a
> >wheel this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.

A bad idea.  Very bad.

> Don't US cars come with wheels?  I have always found that stock wheels are just
> fine with stock suspension

So in your world, I'm actually *allowed* to run my 16" TSW Hockenheims
instead of those miserable TRXs because I've got Eibachs over
Bilsteins?  Well, thank you!

> In the UK insurance premiums rocket skywards when aftermarket
> wheels are fitted

Not surprisingly, you have absolutely no idea what happens in the US.
My car is automatically covered for ~$2000 in aftermarket parts,
whether they be wheels or stereos.

> and engine mods are really a no-go unless one purports to be
> in the "TRADE" with trade insurance - this allows one to drive any piece of gold
> or crap they have a licence for.

Ditto the previous paragraph's opener.  Engine modifications are
subject only to air quality standards, if applicable in the locality.
Oh; and sometimes the police will annoy you if your GMC blower sticks
up too high in your field of vision.  Maybe you should remember that
the US is where Chrysler sold the Street Hemi with a horsepower rating
of 425 - except a recent dyno test put that more accurately at 820 ...
=8^O

The hot ticket in the E28 crowd is a turbo ...
--
C.R. Krieger
MyE28 Post Whore #3 and Chief Smartass©
the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com - 31 May 2007 14:34 GMT
On May 24, 8:49 pm, buf...@comcast.net wrote:
> I found a real nice set of Foose DF-5 wheels but they only come in
> 20".  Would this be a good idea to or am I looking for trouble with a
> wheel this size on this car?  I am told they will fit.

The lower profile tires this will require seem to not last as long -
do they generate higher temps because of less air volume?

Save your cash, retire early.

a.

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