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Car Forum / BMW Cars / June 2007

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E30 325i Outside temp

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David Haggas - 31 May 2007 23:02 GMT
My 1990 325 has a factory outside temperature display/date/digital clock in
place of the analogue clock or OBC. It has always been highly reliable and
accurate since I bought the car 17 years ago but recently it is showing
approx 10C below the actual temp. Anyone know where the sensor is and if
they are prone to any faults of this kind?
John Burns - 31 May 2007 23:17 GMT
> My 1990 325 has a factory outside temperature display/date/digital clock in
> place of the analogue clock or OBC. It has always been highly reliable and
> accurate since I bought the car 17 years ago but recently it is showing
> approx 10C below the actual temp. Anyone know where the sensor is and if
> they are prone to any faults of this kind?

It's in the front brake duct, behind the spoiler. When they fail you
normally just get a constant very low reading, such as -37C.

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E28 Guy© - 01 Jun 2007 21:01 GMT
> > My 1990 325 has a factory outside temperature display/date/digital clock in
> > place of the analogue clock or OBC. It has always been highly reliable and
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> It's in the front brake duct, behind the spoiler. When they fail you
> normally just get a constant very low reading, such as -37C.

Burns is right - and it is not uncommon for the sensor to fail.  Used
ones go for $10-$20 on ebay.
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David Haggas - 02 Jun 2007 12:40 GMT
>> My 1990 325 has a factory outside temperature display/date/digital clock
>> in
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's in the front brake duct, behind the spoiler. When they fail you
> normally just get a constant very low reading, such as -37C.

In that case it has not failed - simply reads low. Thanks for the info about
the location - I'll check its condition.

David
Jeff Strickland - 02 Jun 2007 17:07 GMT
>>> My 1990 325 has a factory outside temperature display/date/digital clock
>>> in
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> David

It's either a thermistor or a thermocouple (the former is my guess), and
these devices can fail in such a fashion that the resistance they attain at
a certain temp is incorrect. The circuits they are in are prone to reacting
to corroded connections too. As a general rule, the resistance they have is
higher at cold temperatures, so corrosion on the contacts can lead to lower
readings on the display.

A thermocouple and a thermistor behave similarly, although they achieve
results in a different manner. I do not think it is important which device
is used in your car. I think your problem is either a poor connection due to
the location of the connector, or the device itself is failing. As was
pointed out earlier, they generally are a go-no-go kind of device, so paly
with the connector for a few minutes, and replace the device next week if it
still does not read correctly.
David Haggas - 02 Jun 2007 22:43 GMT
> It's either a thermistor or a thermocouple (the former is my guess), and
> these devices can fail in such a fashion that the resistance they attain
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> with the connector for a few minutes, and replace the device next week if
> it still does not read correctly.

Thankyou for that Jeff. Todays temperature was around 23 and the reading was
8.5 which points to the above. Investigations pending.
R. Mark Clayton - 03 Jun 2007 10:37 GMT
>> My 1990 325 has a factory outside temperature display/date/digital clock
>> in
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's in the front brake duct, behind the spoiler. When they fail you
> normally just get a constant very low reading, such as -37C.

On the older ones it was a constant high of 84F / 29 or 30C.
 
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