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Car Forum / BMW Cars / June 2007

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problems with 325i transmission.

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vanbasten1 - 07 Jun 2007 17:10 GMT
I have a problem shifting into 1st and 2nd gear in my 325i E36. When the
car is not working it goes through gears fine but when its running 1st and
2nd feel rough. As the car worms up it gets a bit better.
Ive canged the bushings on the shifter but this didnt help.
Do I need to change the gearbox?
I hope not.
Please help.
Yvan - 07 Jun 2007 17:29 GMT
Nedavno vanbasten1 napisa:

> I have a problem shifting into 1st and 2nd gear in my 325i E36. When
> the car is not working it goes through gears fine but when its
> running 1st and 2nd feel rough. As the car worms up it gets a bit
> better. Ive canged the bushings on the shifter but this didnt help.
> Do I need to change the gearbox?
> I hope not.

Wrong gearbox oil?

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vanbasten1 - 07 Jun 2007 17:48 GMT
I'll try chnging to different oil. we'll see what happens. Thank you.
Jim - 07 Jun 2007 17:41 GMT
>I have a problem shifting into 1st and 2nd gear in my 325i E36. When the
> car is not working it goes through gears fine but when its running 1st and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I hope not.
> Please help.

Perhaps the synchronizer is worn.  There may be a way to evaluated the
condition of the synchronizer without tearing the transmission apart, but I
don't know of one.

Jim
hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 07 Jun 2007 18:15 GMT
>>I have a problem shifting into 1st and 2nd gear in my 325i E36. When the
>> car is not working it goes through gears fine but when its running 1st and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Jim

In the old days we used to test a synchro by letting the engine tick over and
pushing the lever into gear - the linkage used to be directly into the casing
and not on the outside - haven't seen a BM box for a long time.

If the engine revs fell one could assume the synchro rings were Ok.  Another
test was to let the car pick up speed by itself - no appreciable throttle - in
first then lift off and try to slip it into second - if it went in easy then no
problem but this only works going up the box.

However a true sign of synchro ring problems is Crunching the gears.  If it
jumps out of gear it is usually the synchro-hub springs and balls and locating
plates.

Hugh
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Fred W - 07 Jun 2007 19:36 GMT
> I have a problem shifting into 1st and 2nd gear in my 325i E36. When the
> car is not working it goes through gears fine but when its running 1st and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I hope not.
> Please help.

Sounds like maybe the clutch is dragging a bit when fully depressed
(disengaged).  This would make it hard to shift into gear when the
engine is running.

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vanbasten1 - 11 Jun 2007 15:15 GMT
I cahnged the oil from 80W to 70W. This made the shifting a bit better. But
there is still a problem.
Oscar@nowhere.com - 11 Jun 2007 18:13 GMT
>I cahnged the oil from 80W to 70W. This made the shifting a bit better. But
>there is still a problem.

Er! Are you sure that it requires oil this thick?  I remember the old Rover V8
gearboxes used engine oil and had a rear bearing oil pump and I recall that this
was based on the ZF boxes that BMW use.
Yvan - 11 Jun 2007 20:36 GMT
Nedavno Oscar@nowhere.com napisa:

> >I cahnged the oil from 80W to 70W. This made the shifting a bit
> >better. But there is still a problem.  
>
> Er! Are you sure that it requires oil this thick?  I remember the old
> Rover V8 gearboxes used engine oil

So does my E30 M10 316.

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Bob Smitter - 11 Jun 2007 20:52 GMT
>I cahnged the oil from 80W to 70W. This made the shifting a bit better. But
> there is still a problem.

I haven't been following this thread, but if you have a hard-shifting
manual transmission, I have found Royal Purple SynchroMax to do
wonders.

Bob
 
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