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Car Forum / BMW Cars / June 2007Need good input on tires
The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the crummy things. Wheels need balancing, but I'm not gonna bother, just get new tires. Continental tires apparently behave extremely poorly on wet roads while going around curves. Mine have been so bad that I almost wonder how they could be legally sold in America. A tire guy told me right after I bought them that they were terrible in the rain...he spoke the gospel! What should I get? I'm not a hell driver in the beamer, but not an old lady either....average middle-aged driver I guess. I'm thinking of buying at Big 10 Tires. They sold me a great set of cheap tires for my old car, and they still don't need balancing after several years. I know you can't go wrong with Michelin, but pricey. How about Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be their major brands for "regular" tires. > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. Keep it under 60 and tire quality doesn't mean a thing. Just buy the cheapest. >> The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the >> crummy [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Keep it under 60 and tire quality doesn't mean a thing. Just buy the >cheapest. Stupid response! If the guy was in Euroland (inc UK) it would be illegal apart from being totally reckless and stupid. Oh! I forgot you are in the US so please carry on and kill yourself along with several innocent bystanders or other drivers when you decide that you are late one day and start driving at 100 mph and the tires disintegrate. Buy tires that match the max speed of the car or buy a car that matches your wallet. >>> The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the >>> crummy [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Buy tires that match the max speed of the car or buy a car that matches your > wallet. Have you ever driven a car? Do you even know what a car is? >>>> The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the >>>> crummy [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Have you ever driven a car? Do you even know what a car is? Brain into gear Spammer >> The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the >> crummy [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Keep it under 60 and tire quality doesn't mean a thing. Just buy the > cheapest. Perhaps so, but I have it impossible to keep my BMW going that slow. My car came with Pirelli, but they were not satisfactory. I replace the original tires with Michelin. Jim > My car came with Pirelli, Which model. > but they were not satisfactory. In what way ? > I replace the original tires with Michelin. Most ppl would see that as a serious step backwards. Graham >> My car came with Pirelli, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >In what way ? >> I replace the original tires with Michelin. > >Most ppl would see that as a serious step backwards. You can't generalize like that between manufacturers. Tire quality is very model -- and sometimes even size -- specific. And while I have always loved high-performance Pirellis for their wet weather performance and currently have them on two of my three cars, I would say that "most people" favor Michelin over Pirelli. Pirelli is very little known among the general public. -- Larry >> My car came with Pirelli, > > Which model. The all season type (don't remember the exact model). >> but they were not satisfactory. > > In what way ? Excessive noise that sounded like bad spots on one or more tires. One tire delaminated at 20000 miles. It had tread separation. The replacement Michelin are noise free. >> I replace the original tires with Michelin. > > Most ppl would see that as a serious step backwards. Not if their Pirellis delaminated during a long trip where the car sometimes reached 80 mph. It certainly is hard to keep the car at the speed limit. I am not interested in risking tire problems at such speeds. Neither of these sets of tires are performance models; I would expect to performance tires to need replacement at about that mileage. Jim > Graham >>> My car came with Pirelli, >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> Graham My 740i runs on Pirelli P6000 and no problems even at 60 and 155 but I always keep it below 140 when wet. On Jun 10, 4:16 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > > crummy [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Keep it under 60 and tire quality doesn't mean a thing. Just buy the > cheapest. f.ck off troll, or at least confine your trolling to threads where there's no risk of anyone actually following your advice. nate > On Jun 10, 4:16 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Keep it under 60 and tire quality doesn't mean a thing. Just buy the >> cheapest. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > nate HAHAHA. Did a ruin your day again?? HAHA >> On Jun 10, 4:16 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS >> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > HAHAHA. Did a ruin your day again?? HAHA No, but following your advice could certainly ruin someone's day. nate  Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. I have no input on Big 10... I share your opinion of Continentals, I had a set stock on my GTI 1.8T and I don't understand what posessed VW to put rolling bricks like those on a supposedly "sporty" car. I often inadvertantly chirped the tires backing out of parking spaces, they were that pathetic. wet, dry, it didn't matter, they sucked. I replaced them with Michelin Pilots and couldn't be happier. If you don't want to spend the $$$ for Michelins, I've heard that Kelly-Springfield makes a decent "bargain" tire. Can't be any worse than Contis, anyway, and they're a lot cheaper. I have had good luck with Kumhos as well. nate > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. I'd recommend checking out the Tire Rack web site. They have comparative road tests on most of the tires (and they often use the 3 series for the comparisons). Also user reviews/ratings. http://www.tirerack.com/ I put Pirelli P-zero Neros on my 5er. Reasonable price, the promise of good durability, and some good past experiences with their product. Good (not great) grip and excellent in the rain. Bridgestone makes an excellent tire. Also the Goodyear F-1 D3 has gotten great reviews. R / John > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. I replaced the overpriced Michelin Pilot Sports with the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's. The performance was marginally better (the Pilots are already great!) and the wear was reduced significantly. Wet traction also seemed better but it's difficult to compare new tires to the old ones at that point. No snow here so that wasn't a factor for me. These were on my '02 330i w/sport package and 19" wheels. I saved $100 per tire but still dropped $1000 with installation, etc. Dan > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. You don't say which Continental tires you have on your 323. Are they performance or so-called "all-season" or touring tires? It can make a big difference. The Conti SportContact2 performance tires on my E46 are wonderful in the rain as were the OEM Conti SportContacts, but if you want to switch brands, try the Goodyear F1 GS-D3. Of course all of these are unsuitable for snow & ice if that's an issue where you live. Tom K. >> The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the >> crummy [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > The Conti SportContact2 performance tires on my E46 are wonderful in the > rain as were the OEM Conti SportContacts, Seconded. I have Conti Sport Contacts all round on my 528i E39. IMO they are excellent tyres in the wet or dry. They'll be replaced by the same when the time comes. Mike. > You don't say which Continental tires you have on your 323. Are they > performance or so-called "all-season" or touring tires? It can make a big > difference. > > The Conti SportContact2 performance tires on my E46 are wonderful in the > rain Agreed. I had CSC2 on my A4 and I thought they were very nice, very well balanced. Not top of the line performance, but close. Bridgestone S03 was a tiny bit better in the dry and wet, but S03 was also hard as a rock. If you drive on roads that are less than perfect, stay away from S03. CSC2 is way more comfy and quiet, while giving up very little in the performance department. Definitely a good wet weather performer. I am hoping to get the CSC3 for my e39 when the current crappy Dunlops (SP Maxx) wear out. Pete > > You don't say which Continental tires you have on your 323. Are they > > performance or so-called "all-season" or touring tires? It can make a big [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Pete I think the ones I had on my GTI were "Touring Contact" and they blew dead goats. I honestly think that General tires would have been an improvement. I can't believe that those things were legal, they were that dangerous. nate >> You don't say which Continental tires you have on your 323. Are they >> performance or so-called "all-season" or touring tires? It can make a big [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Pete The regular ContiSport Contacts are OK in the rain and I would not hesitate to buy them again were the price right. The Michelin PS that came as OEM on my 330i PP are slightly better both wet and dry. But both are good-to-great dry road tires IMO. My new PS2s seem to stick as well or better than the PS's did dry. They are supposed to be better in the wet. We'll see. However, they provide far more steering feedback than the PS's (good!) and tramline less (also good but less important to me). JRE > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. The best feeling tires I've tried so far are Falkens. Its like the difference between walking around in a stiff leather dress shoe and jumping around in sneakers. I mean they just grip the road and don't slip at all. Not bad in price either. GK Rudy: > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. First off, ignore anything that someone who calls themself "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS," says. That screen name should tell you all you need to know about it. As for the tires, I'm not familiar with Continental, but in my experiences, I have found Kelly-Springfield, Cooper and BF Goodrich to be decent tires that are reasonablly priced. Michelin and Goodyear are also good, but pricier. IMNSHO, stay away from Firestone. My first two Tauruses had "Firestone Supremes," as OEM and they were a royal pain; they would last about 25000 miles or so before they would start to seperate. Switched the cars to other brands (the Kelly-Springfield for one and Cooper for the other) and never had to buy a tire for either of those two again. Signature-- necromancer Official Overseer Of Kooks And Trolls In rec.autos.driving > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy things. Wheels need balancing, but I'm not gonna bother, just get new > > tires. First off you need to get rid of the attitude. Graham > First off you need to get rid of the attitude. > > Graham How laughable, coming from this troll! Floyd > Continental tires apparently behave extremely poorly on wet roads while > going around curves. Mine have been so bad that I almost wonder how [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. Yeah; you *can* go wrong with Michelin. Ask anyone who ever had them about TRX tires ... I'm not too enthralled with Bridgestone's quality, although I've had some very good ones. I do like Yokohamas a lot. Both are available through Tire Rack, which is my #1 choice for all tires on vehicles I really care about. Go shopping (lotsa' tools like specs and consumer surveys as well as independent tests there) at www.tirerack.com and then pick up the phone to order. Tell your sales rep that a BMW E28 guy - who was there at South Bend last summer - sent you. -- C.R. Krieger Been there; done that - for years >>Continental tires apparently behave extremely poorly on wet roads while >>going around curves. Mine have been so bad that I almost wonder how [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > C.R. Krieger > Been there; done that - for years Were you there for the One Lap or just because? I remember either last year or the year before I happened to be in SB for the annual Studebaker swap meet and saw lots of pretty go-fast machinery driving around, apparently the One Lap was kicking off that weekend. I'll be up there again next week; this year the SDC International meet is being held in SB, but I won't be there all week (got this nasty Real Job thing, you know...) nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel > E28 Guy? wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Were you there for the One Lap or just because? I was there for BMW "5er Fest" over Memorial Day weekend. A celebration of all things E28 ... and E12 for those few diehards who still like the original 5er. Tire Rack was and is a sponsor of our event. We may welcome later series 5ers in the future, but I'm in no hurry. We had ~130 cars in Chattanooga last month. -- C.R. Krieger Been there; done that E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: What do you guys who choose nyms based on the car you currently own do when you trade that car in on a new one? Will you still be "E28 Guy" when you're driving around in that Toyota Sienna youe wife made you buy because you had another kid? :) SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ > E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > > What do you guys who choose nyms based on the car you currently own do > when you trade that car in on a new one? Will you still be "E28 Guy" > when you're driving around in that Toyota Sienna youe wife made you > buy because you had another kid? :) If you knew anything about BMWs or the newsgroup you would know that an E28 is already a very old "5 series" model (4 models past) and that it isn't likely that "E28 Guy" will *ever* get rid of his car. The other notable thing is that not every man is a slave to his wife as you apparently are. I for one never let my wife dictate what cars I bought and we raised 3 kids. Maybe if she actually knew anything about cars I may have included her in the decision making. The idea that one *needs* a minivan because they have 2 or more kids is ludicrous. Kids are small and pack up quite compactly. Oh, and my wife doesn't get to tell me to lay off the malt either... ;-) Signature-Fred W > > E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > -- > -Fred W ----- I was wondering how long this would take to show up. There's always one in the group. My wife bought a BMW BECAUSE I had one. I drive the older one, too. She got a 5er with the intent of having rear seat space for a child, which we don't have. Screw the minivan/SUV in this age of high gas prices. The cost/benefit and "perceived" safety just isn't there, either. It's just American "I need a big honkin' ride to obstruct other driver's view" thinking. Don't get me wrong, there are times when these vehicles are useful, but single-passenger, daily-driver is NOT one of them. Get a BMW and enjoy it. They get better gas mileage than you think, for the 6 cyl, and still have a lot of pep. Get one a couple of years old, drop the heavy insurance and car payment, and enjoy the $40k car for less than the price of a new car. If done right, it's a no-brainer. Bill in Omaha '86 535i >> E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >ludicrous. Kids are small and pack up quite compactly. Oh, and my wife >doesn't get to tell me to lay off the malt either... ;-) Fred I agree - Why buy a dog and bark yourself. >>The other notable thing is that not every man is a slave to his wife as >>you apparently are. True. Some men are single. SignatureNeed Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net >> E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > ludicrous. Kids are small and pack up quite compactly. Oh, and my wife > doesn't get to tell me to lay off the malt either... ;-) Don't get laid much, eh Fred? R / John >>> E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >R / John Eh! Don't quite get that bit John. Either you have had a bad experience or you haven't met someone as randy, sexy and gagging for it as my wife (#2 I add as the first was a bit like the subject in question so --------- bye bye miss awful pie hello Ferrari Testrarossa.............................. >Eh! Don't quite get that bit John. Either you have had a bad experience or you >haven't met someone as randy, sexy and gagging for it as my wife I guess you love and respect your wife an awful lot, if you tell the world about her in those terms. It takes all sorts, I suppose... SignatureDan. >>Eh! Don't quite get that bit John. Either you have had a bad experience or you >>haven't met someone as randy, sexy and gagging for it as my wife [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >It takes all sorts, I suppose... But you don't know me or my wife so either I'm lying (no) or you're just guessing. But to answer you observations she is sweet, kind, and very pretty and above all a really NICE person. She works at a local school and often comes home telling me some of the older boys ask her out - she must be that nice for 18 year olds to ask my wife out!!!!! >>>Eh! Don't quite get that bit John. Either you have had a bad experience or you >>>haven't met someone as randy, sexy and gagging for it as my wife [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >But to answer you observations she is sweet, kind, and very pretty and above all >a really NICE person. Yes, and she's a cock-hungry cum-guzzler as well. Isn't that what you said, twice now? Where's the misunderstanding? I'd be careful letting her out on her own if I were you. SignatureDan. >>>E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > R / John More than I want, John. Signature-Fred W >>>>E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > More than I want, John. Three times? R / John >>>>>E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > R / John No, just once. I have no idea what happened the other two times, but the kids have a strong resemblance to the mailman. Signature-Fred W >>>>>>E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > No, just once. I have no idea what happened the other two times, but the > kids have a strong resemblance to the mailman. Fred, unlike many of the bozos on this and similar groups, you have 24K sense of humor. My hats off to you and the marvelous woman you wed. R / John >>>>>>>E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > R / John yeah, she's one lucky biotch, eh? ;-) Signature-Fred W >> Fred, unlike many of the bozos on this and similar groups, you have 24K >> sense of humor. My hats off to you and the marvelous woman you wed. >yeah, she's one lucky biotch, eh? ;-) Luckier than Oscar's "wife," that's for sure... SignatureDan. >>> Fred, unlike many of the bozos on this and similar groups, you have 24K >>> sense of humor. My hats off to you and the marvelous woman you wed. > >>yeah, she's one lucky biotch, eh? ;-) > > Luckier than Oscar's "wife," that's for sure... AMEN! OBTW, today's the 38th anniversary. Got it right the first time. R / John >>>> Fred, unlike many of the bozos on this and similar groups, you have 24K >>>> sense of humor. My hats off to you and the marvelous woman you wed. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >AMEN! OBTW, today's the 38th anniversary. Got it right the first time. Lucky bugger. However, I just did 17 years married with the second wife - 4 or 5 years before that - and things are pretty damned cool. My starter wife can burn in hell though. SignatureDan. Fred W <malt_hound@yahoo.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >The other notable thing is that not every man is a slave to his wife as >you apparently are. LOL!!! Yeah, my Corvette has a kiddie seat in the rear hatch area. :) >I for one never let my wife dictate what cars I >bought and we raised 3 kids. Surely you know that you're the exception and not the rule. >The idea that one *needs* a minivan because they have 2 or more kids is >ludicrous. One doesn't NEED a minivan - an SUV will also work. :) SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ On Jun 12, 10:19 pm, Scott en Aztl?n <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote: > E28 Guy? <88.53...@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: > > What do you guys who choose nyms based on the car you currently own do > when you trade that car in on a new one? Will you still be "E28 Guy" > when you're driving around in that Toyota Sienna youe wife made you > buy because you had another kid? :) Scott, I think you've known me for years in R.A.D (this crossposted to alt.autos.bmw, too), so you should know better than to ask - at least of me. This is my *fourth* E28, and the newest one yet (an '88 ... and they didn't build 'em later than that). I can't see me loving any other car as much as I do the E28 535is. Even after driving my wife's '02 Jag X-Type 3.0 Sport 5-speed (a *really* fun car in itself!), when I climb back into my BMW, I am 'at home'. So, there won't be a 'new one' in my foreseeable future unless it's another E28. As you can see by what she drives, my wife would be the last one forcing me into a Toyota *again*. We drove them for the 14 years we needed dead reliable economical transportation and now - well, life's too short to drive boring cars. My last Toyota was an FX-16 - a pocket rocket disguised as a little black 3-door Japanese snotbox. Finally, we won't be having "another kid". And my 10-y-o daughter loves the old BMW because she gets to sit in the front. No air bags. That cover it for ya? -- C.R. Krieger Been there; done that E28 Guy© <88.535is@gmail.com> said in rec.autos.driving: >Scott, I think you've known me for years in R.A.D (this crossposted to >alt.autos.bmw, too), so you should know better than to ask - at least >of me. Well, I was really asking a general question and not necessarily to you specifically. However, I don't think I knew what kind of car you drove (or I just never paid attention). >That cover it for ya? Sure. And, if worse comes to worst, you could always go by the nym of "Motorhead Lawyer." :) SignatureMFFYCam Videos Galore: http://www.geocities.com/mffycam/ > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Bridgestone? I've been to the Big 10 site and that seems to be > their major brands for "regular" tires. I'm running Yokohama AS430 in 235-45-17 and love them. Far better that the pirellis they replaced for handling, ride and noise. > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > crummy [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What should I get? Get round ones. > > The Continental tires on my 323 still have good tread but I'm sick of the > > crummy [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Get round ones. We put Bridgestone Potenzas on in November, and I really like them. They were a little greasy for the first 200 miles, but now they're fine. Very good in the rain as well as the dry. SignatureDemocracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ....Bridgestone Potenza G009! Man, the car drives like a dream. I paid about $488 at Big 10, and this included a 4-wheel alignment; also lifetime balancing. I also get a $50 rebate from Bridgestone. Hey guys, thanks for the input...to the trolls: dudes, how 'bout getting a life.:) > ....Bridgestone Potenza G009! Man, the car drives like a dream. > I paid about $488 at Big 10, and this included a 4-wheel alignment; > also lifetime balancing. I also get a $50 rebate from Bridgestone. > > Hey guys, thanks for the input...to the trolls: dudes, how 'bout getting > a life.:) Cool. Glad to hear you found a satisfactory product. I forgot to mention that I have Yoko AVS ES100s on the Porsche and are happy with them (except in the snow, when I have to switch to winter tires,) but I guess it's a little late now... nate |
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