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Car Forum / BMW Cars / July 2007

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Door handle on 318i 1997

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AL BENSER - 10 Jul 2007 17:45 GMT
The driver's side "outside door handle" became totally inoperative
after I used the key to lock/unlock the car from the passenger's side
door.  Every thing else is working OK.

Any idea or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Jeff Strickland - 11 Jul 2007 04:12 GMT
You have not given us very much to go on, but you are going to have to
remove the door panel from the inside of the door, then remove the door
latch mechanism.

> The driver's side "outside door handle" became totally inoperative
> after I used the key to lock/unlock the car from the passenger's side
> door.  Every thing else is working OK.
>
> Any idea or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
Dave Plowman (News) - 11 Jul 2007 09:44 GMT
> The driver's side "outside door handle" became totally inoperative
> after I used the key to lock/unlock the car from the passenger's side
> door.  Every thing else is working OK.

> Any idea or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.

Sounds like the locking motor has jammed half way. But that's a guess - it
will need the door stripped out to find the true cause. Was there anyone
in the driver's seat at the time? It happened to me once when someone was
opening the door at the same time as the central locking was operated by
another.

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AL BENSER - 11 Jul 2007 15:58 GMT
Thanks for your opinion. The key does properly lock/unlock all
the four doors; and that is from either door.

I did remove the door cover from the inside . . . the parts that
are behind the door outside handle are hidden . . . Also the master
locking also works properly . . . when the incident happened, no
was inside the car.

>> The driver's side "outside door handle" became totally inoperative
>> after I used the key to lock/unlock the car from the passenger's side
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> opening the door at the same time as the central locking was operated by
> another.
Jeff Strickland - 11 Jul 2007 16:28 GMT
So, the doors all lock and unlock okay, but the Driver Side door does not
open from the outside?

The linkage between the door handle and the latching mechanism is either
broken or stuck. You need to remove the latching mechanism to determine what
the trouble is.

> Thanks for your opinion. The key does properly lock/unlock all
> the four doors; and that is from either door.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> opening the door at the same time as the central locking was operated by
>> another.
AL BENSER - 11 Jul 2007 18:43 GMT
> So, the doors all lock and unlock okay, but the Driver Side door does not
> open from the outside?
>
> The linkage between the door handle and the latching mechanism is either
> broken or stuck. You need to remove the latching mechanism to determine
> what the trouble is.

   Yes, that is the problem. The latching mechanism, after all the
back of the door is stripped, still can not be seen!!! In the shop
manual, there is no picture . . . .

>> Thanks for your opinion. The key does properly lock/unlock all
>> the four doors; and that is from either door.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>> opening the door at the same time as the central locking was operated by
>>> another.
Jeff Strickland - 11 Jul 2007 21:22 GMT
>> So, the doors all lock and unlock okay, but the Driver Side door does not
>> open from the outside?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> back of the door is stripped, still can not be seen!!! In the shop
> manual, there is no picture . . . .

I have a '94 E36 convertible. I do not recall exactly how the latching
mechanism comes out, but I took mine out because the car was not making the
drive side window drop and raise properly -- on my car, and the 2-door cars,
the window drops about 10 mm when the door is opened so that the glass will
clear the rubber seal -- and I figured out that the trouble was physically
located inside the door latch.

The latch and the handle come out separately. I do not recall if one must
come out before the other, but getting to them is not all that difficult.

HANDLE
With the door open, you will notice a rubber cover at the top rear edge of
the door. Peel this cover back and an access hole will be exposed. You can
use a screwdriver in this hole to release the tab holding the trim plate on
that goes around the handle. When the trim is off, you will find the screws
that actually hold the handle on.

LATCHING MECHANISM
With the door panel removed you will find two small screws that are covered
by the panel, and two more screws on the edge of the door (below the rubber
cover that you lifted earlier). With these screws removed, you can jockey
the latch around inside the door and get it out.

The mechanism has switches inside that activate the other door locks and do
some other stuff. On my convertible, the linkage that operates one of these
switches was sticky and would not work correctly. There are mechanical
linkages between the handle and the latch, I would guess that your trouble
is with these linkages. The linkages are held on with plastic clips, my
guess is you have broken a clip and the linkage fell off.

If you can get the door panel off, and follow my directions to remove the
latch and handle, you will be capable of fixing the problem with a zip tie.
I would encourage you to get the proper clip thingie, but a zip tie could do
the trick.
 
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