>From what I can tell, negotiating a price and the money factor, which
you don't have control over, are the only two variables with a lease.
I plan to order a configured car, which will take about two months to
come in. During those two months the money factor can fluctuate. How
much can it fluctuate though?
The way pre ordering works is that you put up $1000. That goes toward
a down payment. Say the MSRP is $35000 and I negotiate $34600, a very
practical price. Is that negotiation done at the time of signing or
once the car comes in? If the dealer shows me monthly cost during
signing using the current money factor, those cost won't be valid once
the car arrives...since the new money factor will be used. The dealer
could then increase the money factor even if it actually goes down. I
won't know if he did it or if it was natural and don't have any
control over that part. Can anyone comment on how it works?
Thanks,
Brett
pltrgyst - 24 Aug 2007 02:12 GMT
>....Is that negotiation done at the time of signing or
>once the car comes in? If the dealer shows me monthly cost during
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>won't know if he did it or if it was natural and don't have any
>control over that part. Can anyone comment on how it works?
With our dealer, everything was locked in and signed at time of
order. Don't know if that's universal, though.
-- Larry
brett - 24 Aug 2007 04:34 GMT
> >....Is that negotiation done at the time of signing or
> >once the car comes in? If the dealer shows me monthly cost during
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> -- Larry
I confirmed my local dealer does it the same way. Were you concerned
about the rate dropping by the time the car reached you?
Brett
pltrgyst - 24 Aug 2007 16:11 GMT
>> With our dealer, everything was locked in and signed at time of
>> order. Don't know if that's universal, though.
>
>I confirmed my local dealer does it the same way. Were you concerned
>about the rate dropping by the time the car reached you?
Why would I have cared? Our contract called for a fixed price in dollars, with
the contract effective on the date when we picked up the car in Munich. Nothing
that happened in the two months between signing the contract and accepting the
car could have any effect on what we paid.
-- Larry
brett - 25 Aug 2007 17:56 GMT
> >> With our dealer, everything was locked in and signed at time of
> >> order. Don't know if that's universal, though.
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> -- Larry
Do you know when they stop taking orders for 2008 models for example?
I know lease incentives for the new models are running in the spring.
I'm just not sure if I will order a new model before the year is out.
There is probably some cut off date.
If I'm going to wait that long, I was thinking to take advantage of
lease incentives after the new year. But do those apply to custom
orders?
Thanks,
Brett
pltrgyst - 25 Aug 2007 23:21 GMT
>Do you know when they stop taking orders for 2008 models for example?
Probably two and a half months before the 09s are supposed to be available.
>If I'm going to wait that long, I was thinking to take advantage of
>lease incentives after the new year. But do those apply to custom
>orders?
Don't know where you're located, but the dealers around Washington DC sell
everything they are allocated. They have no on-hand new stock to sell. To them,
every sale is a custom order, and they don't care if it's lease or purchase.
-- Larry
Tom K. - 25 Aug 2007 23:41 GMT
>>Do you know when they stop taking orders for 2008 models for example?
>
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> -- Larry
That seems to be the case as my suburban MD dealer's e-mail promos
invariably advertise their CPO vehicle stock. Every new BMW I've bought has
been custom ordered - but waiting is half the fun!
Tom K.
pltrgyst - 26 Aug 2007 04:17 GMT
>> Don't know where you're located, but the dealers around Washington DC sell
>> everything they are allocated. They have no on-hand new stock to sell. To
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>invariably advertise their CPO vehicle stock. Every new BMW I've bought has
>been custom ordered - but waiting is half the fun!
Eaxctly -- along with tracking the car through production on the BMW Web site,
etc.
And, of course, if you don't pick the car up in Munich, you're just a fool.
-- Larry
Mikep - 24 Aug 2007 04:04 GMT
> >From what I can tell, negotiating a price and the money factor, which
> you don't have control over, are the only two variables with a lease.
Well, like everything else about a car deal, the money factor is negotiable.
The dealer gets a wholesale factor from whoever is doing the financing and
they usually mark it up to you. It's difficult to get the real numbers, but
sometimes calling around to multiple dealers will give you an idea.
Mike
> I plan to order a configured car, which will take about two months to
> come in. During those two months the money factor can fluctuate. How
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> Thanks,
> Brett
brett - 24 Aug 2007 04:33 GMT
> > >From what I can tell, negotiating a price and the money factor, which
> > you don't have control over, are the only two variables with a lease.
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> > won't know if he did it or if it was natural and don't have any
> > control over that part. Can anyone comment on how it works?
I don't think that is realistic. Dealers aren't going to give out the
money factor over the phone. Some will say it based on your credit,
although it isn't. Others will won't you to come in.