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Car Forum / BMW Cars / October 2007

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mcquarrie - 20 Sep 2007 05:07 GMT
On Apr 29 2006, 1:35 pm, "mcquarrie" <00de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I thought it strange that the geniuses at BMW would allow me to
> screw up. How could I have doubted them so?

I fixed my passenger set-back in April 2006, with a new gear from
odometergears.com. Many moons have passed since that post. Passenger
seat recline is still good.

Drivers seat recline stopped today; or should I say "un-recline"? The
seat-back goes back/down, but not forward/up. Is that the typical
symptom of a broken gear? When pushing the switch to bring the seat-
back up, I don't hear a motor turning. Am I dealing with a broken gear
or an electrical problem? - all fuses are good.
Jeff Strickland - 20 Sep 2007 15:53 GMT
>> Thanks. I thought it strange that the geniuses at BMW would allow me to
>> screw up. How could I have doubted them so?
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> back up, I don't hear a motor turning. Am I dealing with a broken gear
> or an electrical problem? - all fuses are good.

I see no reason that the gear could not be broken and bound, preventing the
motor from running. My guess is that you need another $40 gear from
odometer.com, this time for the driver side seat.

If the gears are bound, you ought to be able to hear the motor run for a
microsecond as it tries to go back and forth. Get a good listen, and switch
back and forth on the Lean Button, you ought to be able to hear the motor
transition from one bound up state to the other. It should sound like a
click or slight whir for just the briefest moment ...
mcquarrie - 21 Sep 2007 00:02 GMT
> >> Thanks. I thought it strange that the geniuses at BMW would allow me to
> >> screw up. How could I have doubted them so?
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> transition from one bound up state to the other. It should sound like a
> click or slight whir for just the briefest moment ...

Yes. I did hear a very short noise from the motor when going
forward...thanks for the confirmation. will post my results.
mcquarrie - 21 Sep 2007 00:03 GMT
> >> Thanks. I thought it strange that the geniuses at BMW would allow me to
> >> screw up. How could I have doubted them so?
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> transition from one bound up state to the other. It should sound like a
> click or slight whir for just the briefest moment ...

...but if it is bound up, how is it the seat can still move backwards?
Jeff Strickland - 21 Sep 2007 00:13 GMT
>> >> Thanks. I thought it strange that the geniuses at BMW would allow me
>> >> to
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>
> ...but if it is bound up, how is it the seat can still move backwards?

The fore and aft of the entire seat is a different motor than the fore and
aft of the seat back. There are two motors, one of them has a broken gear.

If you are telling me that the seat recline (seat back) moves in one
direction but not the other, then I have to stand down on my thought of the
broken gear. If the gear is broken, I do not think the seat back will move
in either direction.
mcquarrie - 21 Sep 2007 16:00 GMT
> >> "mcquarrie" <00de...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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Yes, moves back not forward. Side question; the big spring assists the
seat back to move forward, is that right?
Jeff Strickland - 21 Sep 2007 20:06 GMT
> Yes, moves back not forward. Side question; the big spring assists the
> seat back to move forward, is that right?

Unknown. But, if that is the case, you could mimic the spring by pulling the
seat in the direction that the springs moves it. I assume the spring would
help it to move forward, so if you pulled the seat towards the steering
wheel as you operated the switch, then you could take the place of the
spring. If this helped, then you would need to figure out what the issue is
with the spring. If it does not help, then you are back to chasing the
gears.

Obviously, pulling the seat and operating the button all while you are
driving is not much help, and probably not very practical, but it is a good
test.
mcquarrie - 07 Oct 2007 03:35 GMT
> > Yes, moves back not forward. Side question; the big spring assists the
> >seatback to move forward, is that right?
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> driving is not much help, and probably not very practical, but it is a good
> test.

It was the gear. New one from odometergears.com, seat moves
ticketyboo.
frischmoutt - 20 Sep 2007 22:26 GMT
> > Thanks. I thought it strange that the geniuses at BMW would allow me to
> > screw up. How could I have doubted them so?
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> back up, I don't hear a motor turning. Am I dealing with a broken gear
> or an electrical problem? - all fuses are good.

I also had an issue with the mechanism. A 10 cts coin got stuck between the
nut and the  endless  screw, preventing the motor to rotate. It heated a lot
before I realized (helped with a small orientable mirror) there was a coin.
The fuse didn't blow. With 100? the rapair, the gain isn't worth it!
good luck
 
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