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rhalljr - 01 Oct 2007 19:49 GMT
i know there is a way for me to roll down my windows using the remote on
my e46 2004 330i.

but, can i roll them back up with the remote?

may be a stupid question, sorry.

Rodney
Pete - 01 Oct 2007 20:28 GMT
> but, can i roll them back up with the remote?

Are you in the US?  In US-bound cars this feature is disabled.  Apparently
there is a way to recode to car's computer to allow for this but most
dealers will rather tell you that "it cannot be done".

Pete
rhalljr - 01 Oct 2007 20:37 GMT
Yes, sorry, i am in the us. I will call my dealer right now.

>> but, can i roll them back up with the remote?
>
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>
> Pete
Fred W - 01 Oct 2007 23:08 GMT
> Yes, sorry, i am in the us. I will call my dealer right now.

what the hell are you apologizing for?

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Dave Plowman (News) - 01 Oct 2007 23:26 GMT
> > Yes, sorry, i am in the us. I will call my dealer right now.

> what the hell are you apologizing for?

Apologising for not stating his location in the first place? Saves
asking...

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rhalljr - 02 Oct 2007 13:45 GMT
Correct, i forgot to mention location.

>>> Yes, sorry, i am in the us. I will call my dealer right now.
>
>> what the hell are you apologizing for?
>
> Apologising for not stating his location in the first place? Saves
> asking...
VernMan@my.home - 01 Oct 2007 21:15 GMT
>i know there is a way for me to roll down my windows using the remote on
>my e46 2004 330i.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Rodney

I am in the US and I have an E46 (2002 Model year). The windows close
back when I hit the lock button and hold it for a few seconds on my
remote. I only tried that option a few times when I just got the car
and was in "play mode". My wife just got an E91 (328xiT) and although
it will open all the windows and the moonroof when holding and
pressing the open button, it refuses to close them back when pushing
and holding the lock button on her remote. All I can do there is
manually close all the windows again.
So they may have changed something after 2002. Your dealer should be
able to tell.
Choam Nomsky - 01 Oct 2007 23:40 GMT
your 328XiT must be SWEET!
I have an '03 330Xi, but am falling in love with the new 3 series,
especially the "T".

Strange that I like them as I am on my 4th bimmer and really don't like most
of anything "Bangle-ized".

lol

>>i know there is a way for me to roll down my windows using the remote on
>>my e46 2004 330i.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> So they may have changed something after 2002. Your dealer should be
> able to tell.

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VernMan@my.home - 02 Oct 2007 16:03 GMT
>your 328XiT must be SWEET!
>I have an '03 330Xi, but am falling in love with the new 3 series,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>lol

Oh it *is* SWEET :-) But she hardly lets me drive it lol
And it comes with the angel eyes standard when you get the adaptive
xenons. I don't get why they call it a 328xiT, since it's a 3 liter
engine.
She didn't want the sports package since she doesn't like the low
bucket seats I have in mine. Other then that she's fully loaded. And
you should check the moon roof. It's *huge* compared to what's on my
325xi. Almost double the size. Very nice job they did with the E90 and
E91 models.
RustY© - 02 Oct 2007 09:02 GMT
> ...............My wife just got an E91 (328xiT) and although
> it will open all the windows and the moonroof ...............

Moonroof ?  Here in the UK these are always refered to as 'the sunroof'.  Is
moonroof a common term in the USA ?
joe_tide - 02 Oct 2007 13:06 GMT
>> ...............My wife just got an E91 (328xiT) and although
>> it will open all the windows and the moonroof ...............
>
> Moonroof ?  Here in the UK these are always refered to as 'the sunroof'.
> Is
> moonroof a common term in the USA ?

On the BMWUSA web site, they call it a moonroof. Most call it a sun roof.
Dave Plowman (News) - 02 Oct 2007 13:21 GMT
> > ...............My wife just got an E91 (328xiT) and although
> > it will open all the windows and the moonroof ...............

> Moonroof ?  Here in the UK these are always refered to as 'the sunroof'.
>  Is moonroof a common term in the USA ?

Interesting difference. Could be in the hotter areas of the US the roof is
only opened in the cool of the night - during the day it would just make
the AC less efficient and there's too much sun anyway. In the UK any sign
of the sun is to be made the best of. And at night it's the heater that
matters.

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VernMan@my.home - 02 Oct 2007 16:10 GMT
>> ...............My wife just got an E91 (328xiT) and although
>> it will open all the windows and the moonroof ...............
>
>Moonroof ?  Here in the UK these are always refered to as 'the sunroof'.  Is
>moonroof a common term in the USA ?

Here they call it a moonroof, alhough I heard some call it a sunroof
occasionally. I assumed it was because they are tinted. The moonroof
on my 328xiT is huge, by the way. It comes in 2 panels, one smaller
one over the back seats. It's almost twice the size as on my e46
325xi.
Very sweet ride, by the way. She didn't like the X3, and the X5 was
bigger then her Jeep, so she picked the 325xiT. The only thing she
didn't like about it was the lack of a cargo strap-in net in the back,
which she had in the Jeep. Her groceries were flying all over the
place when she came back from the store. She ended up buying one of
these boxes to fit her stuff in the back.
Other then that she *loves* that car.
Floyd Rogers - 02 Oct 2007 16:12 GMT
> "VernMan@my.home" <wernergr@comcast.net> wrote
>> ...............My wife just got an E91 (328xiT) and although
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> Is
> moonroof a common term in the USA ?

"Moonroof" usually refers to a sunroof with a transparent panel.
"Sunroof" usually refers to an opaque panel.
Wikepedia's article on "sunroof" expands upon this.

FloydR
E Brown - 02 Oct 2007 16:40 GMT
>Moonroof ?  Here in the UK these are always refered to as 'the sunroof'.  Is
>moonroof a common term in the USA ?

    In the US, a sunroof is a solid metal panel, while a moonroof is a
tinted glass panel that can let in light without being opened. Because
the former is no longer common, the words are now used
interchangeably.
    epbrown
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adder1969 - 02 Oct 2007 16:34 GMT
On Oct 1, 9:15 pm, "Vern...@my.home"
> I am in the US and I have an E46 (2002 Model year). The windows close
> back when I hit the lock button and hold it for a few seconds on my
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> So they may have changed something after 2002. Your dealer should be
> able to tell.

In the UK, on my E36 I could just shut the doors, lcok it and the
windows would close automatically as I casually walked away looking
like a smug git.

On my E46 I have to stand like a lemon next to the car holding the
button down and hope that they go all the way up.

On my E38 sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't by holding the
key in the locked position.

I really liked the automatic closing.
E Brown - 02 Oct 2007 16:41 GMT
>I am in the US and I have an E46 (2002 Model year). The windows close
>back when I hit the lock button and hold it for a few seconds on my
>remote.

    Ditto for my 2003 - holding the "lock" button the remote will raise
all the windows and close the moonroof; I think this stayed the same
for the entire run of the E46 models, so give it a try.
    epbrown
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Tom K. - 02 Oct 2007 18:15 GMT
>>I am in the US and I have an E46 (2002 Model year). The windows close
>>back when I hit the lock button and hold it for a few seconds on my
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> all the windows and close the moonroof; I think this stayed the same
> for the entire run of the E46 models, so give it a try.

Interesting as this does not work on my '99 328i.  The key will lower the
windows when turned in the door keyhole, but not simply by holding the lock
button down (tried it for 20").  I wonder which E46 year was the first for
this feature.

Tom K.
VernMan@my.home - 02 Oct 2007 19:23 GMT
>>>I am in the US and I have an E46 (2002 Model year). The windows close
>>>back when I hit the lock button and hold it for a few seconds on my
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Tom K.

Maybe it's something that needs to be programmed in the OBC? I got
mine reprogrammed at the dealership as I didn't want the autolock on
the doors. In the newer models you can program alot more yourself into
the OBC (my wife activated the autolock doors option herself from the
iDrive, for example).
Maybe the dealer activated the feature to remotely close the doors and
moonroof on my E46 (2002 model year)? I just know in my case when any
windows are open, holding down the lock button (the BMW bezel) on my
remote closes them remotely. I don't remember even having used my keys
to open or close anything on my car.
marco - 04 Oct 2007 13:31 GMT
there have been some accidents with children (including a horiffic
accident in which a  2 y.o. girl was decapitated while standing on the
close window switch) that have lead car makers to limit some of the
auto features for closing sunroofs and windows.

In europe there are tight restrictions about what the car can do when
the key is removed.

that is why some newer cars seem to have less advanced auto close
features than older cars.
Dave Plowman (News) - 04 Oct 2007 13:39 GMT
> there have been some accidents with children (including a horiffic
> accident in which a  2 y.o. girl was decapitated while standing on the
> close window switch) that have lead car makers to limit some of the
> auto features for closing sunroofs and windows.

'Our' electric windows simply don't have enough power to decapitate. I
doubt any have. Try stopping one with your hand to prove this.  Strangle a
child, possibly.

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675daytona - 08 Oct 2007 02:47 GMT
>there have been some accidents with children (including a horiffic
>accident in which a  2 y.o. girl was decapitated while standing on the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>that is why some newer cars seem to have less advanced auto close
>features than older cars.

yea... i am still trying to figure this one out.... if you stand on a switch,
which means you are pressing down, it should lower the window... and the
second thing... whats a 2 y.o. doing standing in vehicle ????
Floyd Rogers - 08 Oct 2007 03:20 GMT
> marco wrote:
>>there have been some accidents with children (including a horiffic
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> which means you are pressing down, it should lower the window... and the
> second thing... whats a 2 y.o. doing standing in vehicle ????

With a *rocker* switch, which is what BMW used to use (the current
ones are rockers, too, but not hinged in the middle), pressing down
on one end lowers the window and pressing on the other end raises it.

FloydR
Dan - 02 Oct 2007 00:56 GMT
> i know there is a way for me to roll down my windows using the remote on
> my e46 2004 330i.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Rodney

I'm on my 3rd BMW and they all are the same.  You *can* close them if
you put the key in the door, turn it, and hold it.  It can't be done
remotely unless there is some programming magic the dealer can perform.

Dan
R. Mark Clayton - 02 Oct 2007 10:09 GMT
Up press and hold "lock"

Down press and hold "unlock"

may not work in your jurisdiction.

>i know there is a way for me to roll down my windows using the remote on my
>e46 2004 330i.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Rodney
thepixelfreak - 02 Oct 2007 18:12 GMT
> i know there is a way for me to roll down my windows using the remote
> on my e46 2004 330i.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Rodney

I've got a 2001 330Ci e46. I can OPEN the windows with the remote by
pushing and holding the unlock button. To close them you have to
physically use the key in the door, turn to LOCK and HOLD until the
windows close. It doesn't work with just the remote.
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