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Car Forum / BMW Cars / October 2007

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False bulb failure warning.

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Mike G - 14 Oct 2007 19:50 GMT
!997 528i.
Graphic display shows occasional o/s rear or brake bulb failures.
Warning could come on, then a mile down the road go off again. A few minutes
later it might come back on.
Only just started BTW. For the last year it's been fine with the same bulbs.

All rear bulbs have been checked when warning was showing, and all are
working. Have removed and refitted bulbs, and tried swapping similar bulbs.
Nothing seems to make any difference.
I'm now thinking sensor module, relay, whatever.

I'm probably misnaming it or something, but googling doesn't come up with
any info that might solve the problem.
Any suggestions welcome.
TIA
Mike.
Scott Dorsey - 14 Oct 2007 20:11 GMT
>!997 528i.
>Graphic display shows occasional o/s rear or brake bulb failures.
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>Nothing seems to make any difference.
>I'm now thinking sensor module, relay, whatever.

Could be the relay box that detects failures.  Could be the connectors
getting a little corroded.  Could be that stupid twist-base socket
arrangement.  Clean EVERYTHING carefully, coat EVERYTHING with dielectric
grease, resolder all the cold solder joints in the sensor box in the trunk
and then pray.  It takes very, very little series resistance in the circuit
to trigger the alarm.
--scott

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Dave Plowman (News) - 15 Oct 2007 00:48 GMT
>  Could be that stupid twist-base socket arrangement.

What other arrangement exists for cars? ES types are likely to work loose
through vibration.

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Scott Dorsey - 15 Oct 2007 01:51 GMT
>>  Could be that stupid twist-base socket arrangement.
>
>What other arrangement exists for cars? ES types are likely to work loose
>through vibration.

Oh, on the car described, there is a plastic base that the bulb twists
into.  Then THAT base is inserted and twisted into a flat plate with
contacts on it.  This means the number of possible contact failure points
is doubled.  
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Dave Plowman (News) - 15 Oct 2007 09:46 GMT
> >>  Could be that stupid twist-base socket arrangement.
> >
> >What other arrangement exists for cars? ES types are likely to work
> >loose through vibration.

> Oh, on the car described, there is a plastic base that the bulb twists
> into.  Then THAT base is inserted and twisted into a flat plate with
> contacts on it.  This means the number of possible contact failure points
> is doubled.  

On an E39? Mine doesn't seem to have that arrangement - unless I've missed
it.

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Scott Dorsey - 15 Oct 2007 15:17 GMT
>> >>  Could be that stupid twist-base socket arrangement.
>> >
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>On an E39? Mine doesn't seem to have that arrangement - unless I've missed
>it.

Oh, I'm sorry.  I thought the original poster had an E34.
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Jules - 14 Oct 2007 21:42 GMT
I have had this on my 525 touring since i got it...quite common fault
sometimes doesnt do it for ages, then suddenly...then goes again for ages,

> !997 528i.
> Graphic display shows occasional o/s rear or brake bulb failures.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> TIA
> Mike.
hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 14 Oct 2007 22:23 GMT
>!997 528i.
>Graphic display shows occasional o/s rear or brake bulb failures.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>TIA
>Mike.

Common - usually burnt or dirty contacts on the lamp unit NOT the bulb.  Pill
the lamp unit and check for erosion on the contact strips.
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