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E46 pedal linkage

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David Haggas - 15 Oct 2007 10:24 GMT
My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication making it
difficult for smooth starts with the auto box. Is it able to be lubricated?
The car just had an inspection service before I bought it but this was
obviously overlooked.
Scott Dorsey - 15 Oct 2007 13:54 GMT
>My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication making it
>difficult for smooth starts with the auto box. Is it able to be lubricated?
>The car just had an inspection service before I bought it but this was
>obviously overlooked.

More likely the throttle body is gunked up.  Try popping the hood and moving
it by hand.  If it doesn't move smoothly and seems to have a little hitch
in it, get in there with some carb cleaner and a rag.
--scott
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thepixelfreak - 15 Oct 2007 18:59 GMT
>> My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication
>> making it difficult for smooth starts with the auto box. Is it able to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> in it, get in there with some carb cleaner and a rag.
> --scott

I thought the e46 throttle was drive-by-wire. e.g. the foot-pedal
simply sensed depression and rate of depression and 'tells' the
throttle body what to do electronically.
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David Haggas - 15 Oct 2007 22:32 GMT
>>> My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication making
>>> it difficult for smooth starts with the auto box. Is it able to be
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> sensed depression and rate of depression and 'tells' the throttle body
> what to do electronically.

That's what I thought. I assumed there was only one possible lubrication
point - on the pedal linkage itself. ie no cable or throttle body
Scott Dorsey - 16 Oct 2007 14:50 GMT
>>>> My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication making
>>>> it difficult for smooth starts with the auto box. Is it able to be
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>That's what I thought. I assumed there was only one possible lubrication
>point - on the pedal linkage itself. ie no cable or throttle body

If that's the case, does the pedal feel like it moves freely with the
engine turned off?  If it does, there probably isn't much to be done about
it unless the pot attached to the pedal has gone noisy, right?
--scott
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Jeff Strickland - 16 Oct 2007 23:32 GMT
> I thought the e46 throttle was drive-by-wire. e.g. the foot-pedal simply
> sensed depression and rate of depression and 'tells' the throttle body
> what to do electronically.

My daughter's E46 is not fly-by-wire. She has an "00 323.

I do not think the fly-by-wire made it to the 3 Series cars until the E90.
thepixelfreak - 16 Oct 2007 23:59 GMT
>> I thought the e46 throttle was drive-by-wire. e.g. the foot-pedal
>> simply sensed depression and rate of depression and 'tells' the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I do not think the fly-by-wire made it to the 3 Series cars until the E90.

I dunno, I'm pretty sure my 01 e46 330Ci is fly by wire..
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thepixelfreak - 17 Oct 2007 00:05 GMT
>>> I thought the e46 throttle was drive-by-wire. e.g. the foot-pedal
>>> simply sensed depression and rate of depression and 'tells' the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I dunno, I'm pretty sure my 01 e46 330Ci is fly by wire..

There's even a bimmerfest topic about exactly this. Looks like 2001+
e46'es. And this topic talks about what the OP is mentioning..

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10394
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Jeff Strickland - 17 Oct 2007 00:21 GMT
>>>> I thought the e46 throttle was drive-by-wire. e.g. the foot-pedal
>>>> simply sensed depression and rate of depression and 'tells' the
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10394

It's odd that they would make a change like that in the middle of a
production run. I'm sure it's a good thing in the grand scheme of things.
But, it's odd to make a change like that in the middle of the stream.

In any case, you found a link that helps the OP ...
David Haggas - 17 Oct 2007 22:10 GMT
>>>>> I thought the e46 throttle was drive-by-wire. e.g. the foot-pedal
>>>>> simply sensed depression and rate of depression and 'tells' the
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> In any case, you found a link that helps the OP ...

Yes - I will look into this and hopefully solve the problem. Thanks.
JRE - 17 Oct 2007 22:59 GMT
>> My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication making it
>> difficult for smooth starts with the auto box. Is it able to be lubricated?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> in it, get in there with some carb cleaner and a rag.
> --scott

Um...most likely not.

The E46 330i accelerator pedal is a Hall sensor from 2001 on (not sure
about 2000; on the 323i there was a throttle cable but the butterfly
could be counterdriven by a stepper motor).  If it's sticky you can try
to lubricate it if you can figure out how to get it apart without
destroying it.

JRE
hepcatal - 28 Oct 2007 02:32 GMT
> My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication making it
> difficult for smooth starts with the auto box. Is it able to be lubricated?
> The car just had an inspection service before I bought it but this was
> obviously overlooked.

BMW had a problem with accelerator pedal modules sticking esp. when
hot. I think there was a service bullitin. NO recall. the ony way to
fix it is replace the pedal module, that is if the car has the "fly-by-
wire" system. it's easy to check, if there is a black box under the
pedal you have the electronic version. if you have a pedal with a
metal bracket with a metal bar that goes up into the dash you have a
cable driven throttle. hope this helps .
David Haggas - 28 Oct 2007 13:07 GMT
>> My E46 330 accelerator pedal linkage seems in need of lubrication making
>> it
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> metal bracket with a metal bar that goes up into the dash you have a
> cable driven throttle. hope this helps .

Thanks - it is the black box type. I found that the pedal needed bending
slightly and a little rubber cleaner to make it slide more easily through
the rubber grommet. The pedal action 'feels' better now but the system does
require a very gentle initial movement for smooth starts. My E30 is far less
abrupt.

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