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Jeff Mayner - 15 Dec 2007 13:04 GMT My Dad!
Some may remember that I took in our tired '02 330 convert about a month ago and walked out with a spanking new 335i convert.
Well, my Dad liked the car so much that day before yesterday (Wednesday) he called up and stated he wanted to take a run out to Calabasas (where I bought my 335i) and look around. I drove over and we hopped in his car and went to Bob Smith's BMW. We usually try and get out a couple of times a year and spend the day looking at new cars. Something we started doing when I was a kid and have kept up, semi-regularly, over the years. Always just looking but a couple of times in the 45 years or so he, or I, have pulled the trigger and bought a car on one of our forays.
I was showing him a line of nice 5 series. The salesman was pointing out the advantages of the car when I realized Dad had stopped and was no longer walking down the line with us. I looked back and there he was with a funny look on his face, standing in front of a brand new, '08 750i. I know that look!
We drove out of there with this:
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Man!
I didn't think I'd have to compete with my 81 year old father!
It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers last won a Championship. :-)
BBO - 15 Dec 2007 15:12 GMT > I didn't think I'd have to compete with my 81 year old father! > > It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers last won a > Championship. :-) Nice car and I hope I am just as up and about when /if I reach the considerable age of 81 years old! :-D Respect!
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dizzy - 16 Dec 2007 22:17 GMT >> I didn't think I'd have to compete with my 81 year old father! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Nice car and I hope I am just as up and about when /if I reach the >considerable age of 81 years old! :-D Respect! I highly doubt I'll make it that long.
Jeff Mayner - 17 Dec 2007 07:56 GMT >>> I didn't think I'd have to compete with my 81 year old father! >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I highly doubt I'll make it that long. Me either but as long as I'm healthy, why not? Stranger things have happened. ;-)
R. Mark Clayton - 15 Dec 2007 15:51 GMT > My Dad! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Man! Probably should have got the long wheel base version.
740Ld or even 730Ld are probably a better bet unless you simply must have the grunt of the V12. OTOH your dad probably deserves a decent car after decades of driving US cars.
Tom K. - 15 Dec 2007 19:19 GMT >> My Dad! >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Probably should have got the long wheel base version. Why? Especially as the only lwb 7 available in the US is the V12.
> 740Ld or even 730Ld are probably a better bet unless you simply must have > the grunt of the V12. OTOH your dad probably deserves a decent car after > decades of driving US cars. Diesel BMWs aren't yet sold in the US, and the current 750i is a V8 (the V12 is the 760i or Li)
Jeff, congrats to your dad! Tom K.
Jeff Mayner - 16 Dec 2007 18:34 GMT >>> My Dad! >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Why? Especially as the only lwb 7 available in the US is the V12. There were several LWB 750's there. My Dad was looking at the LWB first but I talked him into the 750i as it's just him and Mom in the car, 99% of the time. Also, because of their garage configuration, the 750i fits a lot better.
>> 740Ld or even 730Ld are probably a better bet unless you simply must >> have the grunt of the V12. OTOH your dad probably deserves a decent >> car after decades of driving US cars. And how. Before the final decision was made and he had driven the car, I told him that once he drove it we would most likely _not_ be driving the Ford home that night. ;-)
> Diesel BMWs aren't yet sold in the US, and the current 750i is a V8 > (the V12 is the 760i or Li) Yes.
> Jeff, congrats to your dad! Thanks (for my dad). He loves the car and he can now operate the seats and "some" of the other features w/o the manual.
Progress! ;-)
> Tom K. hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 16 Dec 2007 10:30 GMT >> My Dad! >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >the grunt of the V12. OTOH your dad probably deserves a decent car after >decades of driving US cars. Sorry to disillusion you but the 750 is a V8 - BMW no longer offer the V12.
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R. Mark Clayton - 16 Dec 2007 17:16 GMT >>> My Dad! >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Sorry to disillusion you but the 750 is a V8 - BMW no longer offer the > V12. Of course the V12 750i has been superceded by the 760i.
Ali - 15 Dec 2007 19:35 GMT Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big waste of money. Each to their own I suppose.
> My Dad! > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers last won > a Championship. :-) Choam Nomsky - 15 Dec 2007 21:15 GMT f.ck off ali... The guy is 81... do you really think he gives a sh.t about depreciation?????
GOOD FOR YOUR DAD... Good tatse (both of you), I hope he enjoys it for years to come.
As stated above, I hope I have the same type of ride when I am an old boy!
> Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big > waste of money. Each to their own I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers last won >> a Championship. :-)
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Ali - 15 Dec 2007 21:26 GMT As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in life than a car.
> f.ck off ali... > The guy is 81... do you really think he gives a sh.t about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > As stated above, I hope I have the same type of ride when I am an old boy!
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>> Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big >> waste of money. Each to their own I suppose. Dan - 16 Dec 2007 00:48 GMT > As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in life > than a car. If you can afford it, it's not going to change your lifestyle. For many people here, it's no different than you buying a used '98 Honda Accord.
You probably should check out other car groups that fit your income.
-dk
Robert - 16 Dec 2007 04:03 GMT > As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in life > than a car. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big >>> waste of money. Each to their own I suppose. Always someone to put a turd in the punch bowl...
Jeff Mayner - 16 Dec 2007 18:54 GMT >> As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in >> life than a car. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Always someone to put a turd in the punch bowl... <soapbox>
I get what he's saying, though a turd in the punchbowel doesn't put a dent in my parent's basic, lifelong conservative philosophy and does not in the least diminsh their accomplishments that allow them to do what they want to do now in the twilight of their lives.
I've told them many times that I would be perfectly happy if they had _nothing_ to pass-on at end of life, monetarily, as they have already "passed-on" the most important lessons one can.
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Jeff Mayner - 16 Dec 2007 18:48 GMT > As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in > life than a car. I understand what you're saying and they worked their entire lives with that credo.
They now have the right to do what they want when they want. I can only hope we all reach the ability to do so. With parents like mine, my sister and I have a pretty good start.
>> f.ck off ali... >> The guy is 81... do you really think he gives a sh.t about [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a >>> big waste of money. Each to their own I suppose. Robert - 17 Dec 2007 23:11 GMT >> As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in >> life than a car. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > we all reach the ability to do so. With parents like mine, my sister and I > have a pretty good start. Are they adopting? :)
I am working towards that as well. That is one of the American dreams, to work and retire to be able to do what you want to do and to afford things that you always wanted in life....
I say good for them!!!!
Rob
dizzy - 16 Dec 2007 22:17 GMT Ali top-posted:
>As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in life than >a car. Then what are you doing in the BMW group, you stupid, top-posting troll?
Pete - 17 Dec 2007 03:02 GMT > As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in life > than a car. You came to a BMW newsgroup to tell us that we should all be buying used KIAs instead? Or maybe even bicycles instead of cars?
Get a grip!
Pete
E28 Guy(c) - 17 Dec 2007 22:39 GMT > As I said, each to their own. There are more important things in life than > a car. Just as there are more important things in life than driving boring 'transportation appliances' like yours. If you don't have a clue what a BMW is all about, why try discussing it? -- C.R. Krieger
Jeff Mayner - 16 Dec 2007 18:44 GMT > f.ck off ali... > The guy is 81... do you really think he gives a sh.t about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As stated above, I hope I have the same type of ride when I am an old > boy! Thanks.
>> Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big >> waste of money. Each to their own I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers >>> last won a Championship. :-) Mikep - 16 Dec 2007 06:49 GMT Well, when you are as old as dad, your priorities change -- when you're looking at the dark end of the tunnel, a new 750 is cool. I'm not quite as old as dad but I don't see a big waste of money here ... Heck, my kids are pissed becaused i've gone thru a couple of m3's and an x5 and i'm looking at an x6 next. But hey, whats a waste of money to you is entertainment value to me...
Mike
(on my way to the store to blow my pension money on expensive wine -- )
> Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big > waste of money. Each to their own I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers last won >> a Championship. :-) Kapt_Kaos - 16 Dec 2007 07:33 GMT Good for you, I wish MY parents would enjoy things a little more... sure I want the inheritance, but I would much rather see them smiling like your dad when he hammers the pedal in his 750i ;)
> Well, when you are as old as dad, your priorities change -- when you're > looking at the dark end of the tunnel, a new 750 is cool. I'm not quite as [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>> It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers last >>> won a Championship. :-)
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Jeff Mayner - 16 Dec 2007 18:55 GMT > Well, when you are as old as dad, your priorities change -- when > you're looking at the dark end of the tunnel, a new 750 is cool. I'm [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (on my way to the store to blow my pension money on expensive wine -- > ) Good for you! And a nice selection of vehicles past and present, by the way. ;-)
>> Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big >> waste of money. Each to their own I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers >>> last won a Championship. :-) avatar2k - 16 Dec 2007 22:31 GMT > > Well, when you are as old as dad, your priorities change -- when > > you're looking at the dark end of the tunnel, a new 750 is cool. I'm [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >>> It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers > >>> last won a Championship. :-) i agree - the only thing i see in the pictures is the smile on Dad's face. that alone is worth the cost of the car! he deserves it ABSOLUTELY!!
adder1969 - 17 Dec 2007 11:13 GMT > i agree - the only thing i see in the pictures is the smile on Dad's > face. that alone is worth the cost of the car! he deserves it > ABSOLUTELY!!- Well let's hope nothing goes wrong with it otherwise that smile is going to go away....
Scott Dorsey - 17 Dec 2007 13:05 GMT Mikep wrote:
> Well, when you are as old as dad, your priorities change -- when > you're looking at the dark end of the tunnel, a new 750 is cool. Coincidentally, hitting ice on a 750 is a good way to look at the dark end of the tunnel.... --scott
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Jeff Mayner - 17 Dec 2007 21:26 GMT > Mikep wrote: >> Well, when you are as old as dad, your priorities change -- when [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > end of the tunnel.... > --scott Good thing we live in Ventura. Mean Temp is 72 degrees. ;-)
Jeff Mayner - 16 Dec 2007 18:41 GMT > Mmm. It's only a car and if you look at the depreciation, etc. a big > waste of money. Doesn't matter anymore with my parent's. They worked their a.ses off for 60 years so they can now afford the "depreciation". Having lived through the depression as they did and raised myself and my sister and provided us with a very solid foundation and understanding of what it means to be true citizen of this earth and productive members of the human family, I do not begrudge them the one "extravigance" they've indulged in in my life's memory. It has always been myself and my sister first, then their 3 grandkids.
Now it's about them and they can do anything they want as far as I'm concerned.
Each to their own I suppose.
Yes.
>> My Dad! >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers >> last won a Championship. :-) hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 16 Dec 2007 10:29 GMT >My Dad! > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >It's cool though. I haven't seen him this happy since The Lakers last won a >Championship. :-) What color is the car? It looks grey but it also looks similar to my E65 - Michigan Blue which is a very pale silver/blue. However mine is the 730d Yes DIESEL with 235 BHP and some 435lb/ft torque. Still shows over 150 on the speedo and 0-60 in 7 secs but the beauty of it is -------- 40MPG (imp).
I see you didn't get the tinted (dark) sun protection rear windows! However you have got the "sport" package in the way of s/wheel and front seats thigh support - do you ever use the seat heating?
I do hope you didn't order the sport suspension as it is total crap - too hard, too noisy and very uncomfortable especially if you also have the 19/20" wheels OUCH! The adjustable suspension is just as bad either too soft and wallowly or too hard and uncomfortable.
Still -------- happy motoring.
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Jeff Mayner - 16 Dec 2007 20:03 GMT >> My Dad! >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > What color is the car? It looks grey but it also looks similar to my > E65 - Michigan Blue which is a very pale silver/blue. Sorry for the poor, late in the day light. It's a nice dark grey.
However mine is
> the 730d Yes DIESEL with 235 BHP and some 435lb/ft torque. Still > shows over 150 on the speedo and 0-60 in 7 secs but the beauty of it > is -------- 40MPG (imp). I wish they offered the deisel in the states. I would have pointed him in that direction if they did.
> I see you didn't get the tinted (dark) sun protection rear windows! > However you have got the "sport" package in the way of s/wheel and > front seats thigh support - do you ever use the seat heating? The car has electric sunshades for the side windows and the rear glass.
> I do hope you didn't order the sport suspension as it is total crap - > too hard, too noisy and very uncomfortable especially if you also > have the 19/20" wheels OUCH! The adjustable suspension is just as > bad either too soft and wallowly or too hard and uncomfortable. It does have all the bells and whistles. We did not order it. Pop picked it off the lot as-is. he loves it.
> Still -------- happy motoring. > > Hugh > Sir Hugh of Bognor You bet. ;-)
hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 16 Dec 2007 21:41 GMT >>> My Dad! >>> [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > >You bet. ;-) Jeff
Can I ask how much? I paid 40k ($82k) cash for mine but retail was 61K as it stood there which is about $127k retail. Mine was new - ex demo with 2300 miles on the clock and full 3year warranty and shipped 1000 miles from Inverness Scotland to Bognor Regis (Look it up on Google Earth) on the South Coast free of charge inc new number plates and a full tank of juice.
Hugh
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Jeff Mayner - 17 Dec 2007 07:55 GMT >>>> My Dad! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > Can I ask how much? I paid 40k ($82k) cash for mine but retail was > 61K as it stood there which is about $127k retail. Dad paid around 86k, OTD (Out the Door). That includes tax, license, and extended warrenty. It does have Sport and Premium (do they call it "Premium" on the 750?).
Mine was new -
> ex demo with 2300 miles on the clock and full 3year warranty and > shipped 1000 miles from Inverness Scotland to Bognor Regis (Look it > up on Google Earth) on the South Coast free of charge inc new number > plates and a full tank of juice. > > Hugh Sounds like you got a great deal. I had no idea they were so high over there. The way our $ is tanking (don't let me get started!) I would have thought it would be less over there.
By the way, looks like you live in a very nice place. I'm over here on the West Coast in a semi-little town called Ventura, CA. We're about 4 miles from the beach.
Great place to live.
> Sir Hugh of Bognor R. Mark Clayton - 17 Dec 2007 11:13 GMT > Can I ask how much? I paid 40k ($82k) cash for mine but retail was 61K as > it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sir Hugh of Bognor Yes ex demo cars are a bargain - cosseted at the dealers, usually fully loaded with all the toys and when a new model comes along turfed out for a pittance for people like me to buy :-))
admin - 17 Dec 2007 14:40 GMT >> Can I ask how much? I paid 40k ($82k) cash for mine but retail was 61K as >> it [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > loaded with all the toys and when a new model comes along turfed out for a > pittance for people like me to buy :-)) Actually - I prefer BMW "Executive" cars. BMW-NA requires it's executives to drive BMWs - and gives them ones for 6 months at a time - then it's a new one.
There is one dealer I frequent who specializes in buying these cars from BMW and reselling them as CPO cars. Typically $10-15k off "retail" - low miles (3-8,000 miles) and maintained as you'd expect. About the best deal you can get on a BMW, and it hasn't been abused like the demo (or loaner) cars have been.
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