Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was wandering if
its worth buying or is it just going to be a money pit at this point. Its a
sweet looking car but Ive never owned a bmw and am not sure what to expect as
far as engine live and overall longevity of the car. Having owned toyotas and
hondas my whole life Ive come to expect at least 300,000 miles out of my cars.
bfd - 30 Dec 2007 15:45 GMT
> Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was wandering if
> its worth buying or is it just going to be a money pit at this point. Its a
> sweet looking car but Ive never owned a bmw and am not sure what to expect as
> far as engine live and overall longevity of the car. Having owned toyotas and
> hondas my whole life Ive come to expect at least 300,000 miles out of my cars.
A few questions:
1. have you driven it? If you don't notice a difference between it and
a toyota/honda, get the latter.
2. what about service records? You should try to find out what's been
repaired and whether the fluids have been changed at the appropriate
times. This is is especially true if your concern is engine longevity.
If the oil has been changed "regularly," then you shouldn't have any
problems with it.
In fact, I would be more concern with whether the tranny oil has been
changed, especially if its an automatic. Further, regular changes of
the differential oil, brake fluid and coolant are vital too. Changing
fluids makes a big difference on these cars.
Finally, no matter whether you have the service records or not,
consider having the car inspected by a good BMW independent. They
should be able to find any problems and tell you what to expect. At
about 1 hour labor or so, its not cheap, but good insurance. If you
need to find a good indy, look here:
http://www.bimrs.org/
Good Luck!
Floyd Rogers - 30 Dec 2007 17:16 GMT
> Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was wandering
> if
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> hondas my whole life Ive come to expect at least 300,000 miles out of my
> cars.
1) What does PFI stand for? If it's Port Fuel Injection, that's a poor use
of
the term, since every BMW (in the US) since around '75 has had it. Toyota
and Honda are relatively late to that technology (as is GM.)
2) I assume you mean I6 rather than L6. The "I" stands for Inline (as
opposed
to "V" configuration of the engine cylinders.
3) Although *you* may have had Toyotas and Hondas that have lasted 300K
miles, I doubt that that's the median life. 150K-200K is much more likely.
Our '91 525i now has 200K on it. Engine uses a little oil, but still very
strong.
Original clutch. Suspension pieces have been replaced. Interior a little
shabby,
especially door panels (typical problem with them). Coolant system has been
overhauled (must do to keep em running.) BMW engines typically last 200K-
250K miles. YMMV.
IMO, since you won't expend the effort to use proper punctuation, you
haven't
apparently googled this group's archive for previous posts on the subject
(there
are MANY references to sites and boards with that information), I doubt
that you will expend the effort on maintenance to keep it running for
250-300K miles.
FloydR
Drunkpunk - 30 Dec 2007 20:03 GMT
>> Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was wandering
>> if
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>
>FloydR
Sorry about the punctuation I just copied and pasted engine info from carfax
report as for past post on the subject I couldn't find any that directly
refer to a 92 525i, and I know some makes and models with a good overall
reputation can sometimes have a bad year, I.e. mid 80s jaguars.
Jim - 30 Dec 2007 20:59 GMT
>>> Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was
>>> wandering
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> refer to a 92 525i, and I know some makes and models with a good overall
> reputation can sometimes have a bad year, I.e. mid 80s jaguars.
My impression is that the bad years for Jaguars started much earlier than
the mid 80s.
For example, the Jaguar engineers designed the I6 DOHC engine during WWII.
They wanted to
put it into production as soon as possible, and there was no money available
for engine testing
and development. Hence, the early buyers acted as testers. I can't
remember where I read that.
Most likely it was from Road and Track while John Bond still owned the
magazine.
Of course, if you really get down to it, all years which had Lucas electrics
was a bad year.
Jim
Dave Plowman (News) - 30 Dec 2007 22:14 GMT
> For example, the Jaguar engineers designed the I6 DOHC engine during
> WWII. They wanted to put it into production as soon as possible, and
> there was no money available for engine testing and development.
> Hence, the early buyers acted as testers. I can't remember where I
> read that. Most likely it was from Road and Track while John Bond still
> owned the magazine.
So what modifications where made to it after this consumer testing that
turned it into a race winning unit that also powered things from
ambulances to light tanks?

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Jim - 30 Dec 2007 23:32 GMT
>> For example, the Jaguar engineers designed the I6 DOHC engine during
>> WWII. They wanted to put it into production as soon as possible, and
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> turned it into a race winning unit that also powered things from
> ambulances to light tanks?
Can't say. The user testing took place in the late 40s in the XK120 and the
sedans.
Jim
Dave Plowman (News) - 30 Dec 2007 18:05 GMT
> Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was
> wandering if its worth buying or is it just going to be a money pit at
> this point. Its a sweet looking car but Ive never owned a bmw and am not
> sure what to expect as far as engine live and overall longevity of the
> car. Having owned toyotas and hondas my whole life Ive come to expect at
> least 300,000 miles out of my cars.
A car of that age and mileage is going to cost pennies. If it breaks,
throw it away.
Cars which do vast mileages usually do so with just one owner - and have
to be looked after all their life. A BMW is no different from a Honda in
this respect. So use the same criterion in choosing one as you did all
your Hondas and Toyotas.
BTW, you must be very old if you've owned several Hondas and Toyotas and
run them all to 300,000 miles. Many people don't drive that far in a
lifetime.

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Drunkpunk - 30 Dec 2007 19:53 GMT
>> Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was
>> wandering if its worth buying or is it just going to be a money pit at
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>run them all to 300,000 miles. Many people don't drive that far in a
>lifetime.
Most were bought around the 200,000 mark and I used to drive 150-300 miles a
day for work
Yvan - 30 Dec 2007 20:24 GMT
Nedavno Drunkpunk via CarKB.com napisa:
> I used to drive 150-300 miles a day for work
Wooow, what sort of work do you do? I drive 7km (5 miles) total to the
office and back. I drive 300 miles in one day only during summer
holiday trip.

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Jules - 31 Dec 2007 06:46 GMT
> Im looking in to buying a 92 525i wit 129,000 miles on it. I was wandering if
> its worth buying or is it just going to be a money pit at this point. Its a
> sweet looking car but Ive never owned a bmw and am not sure what to expect as
> far as engine live and overall longevity of the car. Having owned toyotas and
> hondas my whole life Ive come to expect at least 300,000 miles out of my cars.
Mine has nearly 300k on it, engine is fine, i had 2 fail at between 130 and
160 with plastic water pump failure, this seems to be common. So i guess
this one was changed long before i got it.
Had loads of Toyotas too, but all from the 70's which where simple, the
bimmer is a bit more complicated to say the least..
apart from a computer speaking German to me, and other little odds n sods,
its been fine, even on 1000 mile a day trips...comfy, half decent handling.