Lost the traction control and anti-lock brakes this morning on the way to
work. The lights went off after I parked and restarted the car but I
haven't had a chance to see if it's working or not.
It's been very cold here lately, single digits, and snowy and wet and
icy... just had a bunch of freezing rain last night.
Kind of sucked.

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hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 19 Feb 2008 16:11 GMT
>Lost the traction control and anti-lock brakes this morning on the way to
>work. The lights went off after I parked and restarted the car but I
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>Kind of sucked.
Bet that make driving interesting again.......... wahayyyyyyyy!

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Ivan Marsh - 19 Feb 2008 17:21 GMT
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:11:19 +0000, hsg wrote:
>>Lost the traction control and anti-lock brakes this morning on the way
>>to work. The lights went off after I parked and restarted the car but I
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> Bet that make driving interesting again.......... wahayyyyyyyy!
It was a bit sketchy when it went out. I was climbing an ice covered hill
on a frozen over bridge at the moment.

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Jeff Strickland - 19 Feb 2008 16:33 GMT
This is symptomatic of a failed Speed Sensor. It could be any of them, you
will have to pull codes to see which reported to the computer that it had
gone away.
I'm not sure if this kind of problem reports to the OBD II or not. You can
pull the codes from the OBD II for free at an Autozone store.
> Lost the traction control and anti-lock brakes this morning on the way to
> work. The lights went off after I parked and restarted the car but I
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> Kind of sucked.
Ivan Marsh - 19 Feb 2008 17:22 GMT
> This is symptomatic of a failed Speed Sensor. It could be any of them,
> you will have to pull codes to see which reported to the computer that
> it had gone away.
>
> I'm not sure if this kind of problem reports to the OBD II or not. You
> can pull the codes from the OBD II for free at an Autozone store.
I have a code reader. I'll be interested to see if the problem continues
after the car has had time to thaw out.

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Jeff Strickland - 20 Feb 2008 02:47 GMT
>> This is symptomatic of a failed Speed Sensor. It could be any of them,
>> you will have to pull codes to see which reported to the computer that
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> I have a code reader. I'll be interested to see if the problem continues
> after the car has had time to thaw out.
I suspect it will.
Ivan Marsh - 20 Feb 2008 16:24 GMT
>>> This is symptomatic of a failed Speed Sensor. It could be any of them,
>>> you will have to pull codes to see which reported to the computer that
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> I suspect it will.
Everything is working fine again.
It would be nice if it could stay over 5 degrees for a few days and melt
off some of this ice.

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R. Mark Clayton - 20 Feb 2008 01:05 GMT
> Lost the traction control and anti-lock brakes this morning on the way to
> work. The lights went off after I parked and restarted the car but I
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> Kind of sucked.
ABS sensor (or connections) failed. Codes will tell you (or your mechanic)
which one.
Probably wet and then freezing has forced connections apart.
George W. Kush - 21 Feb 2008 01:24 GMT
Whenever you encounter a fault like that, pull over, stop the engine and
ignition, then retasrt and all should be ok IF the warning light does NOT
reappear. Many times these things are not broken, just "faults" theat get
erased after a fresh start.
> Lost the traction control and anti-lock brakes this morning on the way to
> work. The lights went off after I parked and restarted the car but I
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> Kind of sucked.

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George W. Kush - 21 Feb 2008 03:41 GMT
I learned that in a Merc clk430 cab in the rain when the wipers just stopped
responding... No panic, pull over and restart - all was well.
I love those smart Germans ;)
> Whenever you encounter a fault like that, pull over, stop the engine and
> ignition, then retasrt and all should be ok IF the warning light does NOT
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>> Kind of sucked.

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R. Mark Clayton - 22 Feb 2008 10:05 GMT
>I learned that in a Merc clk430 cab in the rain when the wipers just
>stopped responding... No panic, pull over and restart - all was well.
> I love those smart Germans ;)
In IT this is called an engineer's reset...
OK in a car (normally), but don't try this in a Boeing 777!
VernMan@my.home - 23 Feb 2008 20:15 GMT
>>I learned that in a Merc clk430 cab in the rain when the wipers just
>>stopped responding... No panic, pull over and restart - all was well.
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>OK in a car (normally), but don't try this in a Boeing 777!
Now just imagine if your car was running under Windows Vista...When
you just started to pull over to the exit ramp, a soft feminine voice
would ask you if you really wanted to exit the highway, everytime.
R. Mark Clayton - 24 Feb 2008 10:16 GMT
>>>I learned that in a Merc clk430 cab in the rain when the wipers just
>>>stopped responding... No panic, pull over and restart - all was well.
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> you just started to pull over to the exit ramp, a soft feminine voice
> would ask you if you really wanted to exit the highway, everytime.
No it would have you drive down the exit ramp - the wrong way, but OTOH at
only 5mph.
And in the case of the CLK430 above approx 90% of the engine output would be
used to run the computer...