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Used Z3

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Milo - 27 May 2008 04:31 GMT
Thinking of buying a used Z3.
Are there good years and bad years?
should I go with the Auto Trans or stick with the manual.
Are there options to avoid or options which are a must have?
What about the 2.5 vs the 3.0 engine? I'm looking for dependability rather
than all out performance.
Any input would be appreciated. Also any thoughts about buying through Ebay
Motors.

Milo
John Burns - 27 May 2008 20:46 GMT
> Thinking of buying a used Z3.
> Are there good years and bad years?

Make mine a 3.0i, final year of production ;-)

> should I go with the Auto Trans or stick with the manual.

Manual! More fun and less likely to have expensive faults.

> Are there options to avoid or options which are a must have?
> What about the 2.5 vs the 3.0 engine? I'm looking for dependability rather
> than all out performance.

Both are great engines and from the same series, so if you get a good
deal on a 2.5 go for it.

> Any input would be appreciated. Also any thoughts about buying through Ebay
> Motors.

Buying on ebay is fine, I've bought and sold BMWs there in the UK. Just
be sure to check for good feedback and don't get ripped off. Pay a
deposit up front, but don't pay the rest until you've seen the car in
person and checked the paperwork.

Email the seller and ask a (sensible!) question. If you get a terse
answer from someone who can't spell or punctuate a sentance it's not a
good sign! If they sound nice and helpful so much the better.

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DCA - 30 May 2008 22:40 GMT
> <snip>
>> Any input would be appreciated. Also any thoughts about buying through Ebay
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>
>  
A great example of poor spelling above:

"sentance"

you can keep your sale mate  LOL
Jeff Strickland - 31 May 2008 02:17 GMT
> A great example of poor spelling above:
>
> "sentance"
>
> you can keep your sale mate  LOL

Piss off!

This group has been humming along doing just fine with the assorted top
posters and mis-spellings. We don't need a new-comer nanny.

If you have something useful to say, say it. Else shut the hell up.
dizzy - 31 May 2008 02:55 GMT
>Piss off!

Wow, Jeffy, what's got you so stressed out?  Have you been reading
more evil scientist's "blasphemy" about things that happened on Earth
millions of years ago, when the Earth is really only 10,000 years old?
DCA - 01 Jun 2008 06:13 GMT
>> A great example of poor spelling above:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> If you have something useful to say, say it. Else shut the hell up.

Oh - you big and frightening person <quiver/frightened>
Tell you what - if you wish you keep communicating with your select
little group - why don't YOU piss off and create your own private yahoo
group and leave public ng's to be just that! - PUBLIC newsgroups for all
and sundry to offer comment.
steve-caner@clara.co.uk - 01 Jun 2008 09:13 GMT
>>> A great example of poor spelling above:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>group and leave public ng's to be just that! - PUBLIC newsgroups for all
>and sundry to offer comment.

However, some people are not accepted in public such as -- Adolf Hitler if he
was still alive or that guy in Austria that f.cked his daughter and kept her in
a cellar for 20 years so - if you want to be accepted in public then engage
brain before opening mouth or in this case sending an email/NG posting.

Steve

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DCA - 01 Jun 2008 16:04 GMT
>  
>>    
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>
>  
Oh Steve - and your language is 'acceptable' in a BMW ng huh?
And you tell ME to engage brain???
Dear oh dear - what selfish retard you appear to be.
My brain WAS engaged - rather more than the post advising someone to
look for spelling errors in a misspelt post - laughable - how'd he spot
it then LOL.
steve-caner@clara.co.uk - 01 Jun 2008 16:23 GMT
>>  
>>>    
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>look for spelling errors in a misspelt post - laughable - how'd he spot
>it then LOL.

And I think WAS is the operative word here - when did you switch it off?
DCA - 02 Jun 2008 16:33 GMT
>  
>>    
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> And I think WAS is the operative word here - when did you switch it off?
>  
Needed to in order to read your bollx
Jeff Strickland - 01 Jun 2008 23:37 GMT
>>> A great example of poor spelling above:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> leave public ng's to be just that! - PUBLIC newsgroups for all and sundry
> to offer comment.

You are the new guy here, try to get along.
DCA - 02 Jun 2008 16:37 GMT
>>>> A great example of poor spelling above:
>>>>
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>
> You are the new guy here, try to get along.

I have been mainly dormant here for well over a year - not an anorak but
there you go.
So old boys club can say as they please and I can't comment huh?
My post was tongue in cheek as could be seen by anyone who wasn't
bruising for a battle.
Treat with courtesy and get the same back - you have no more 'rights'
than me and no exclusivity.
Making others welcome would be good.
hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 02 Jun 2008 17:40 GMT
>>>>> A great example of poor spelling above:
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>than me and no exclusivity.
>Making others welcome would be good.

DCA - go back and be a lurker as it will save us all the trouble of kill filing
you.
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Jeff Strickland - 04 Jun 2008 00:01 GMT
>>>>> A great example of poor spelling above:
>>>>>
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> me and no exclusivity.
> Making others welcome would be good.

You are welcome to come in and contribute. Pissing and moaning about top
posting is not a contribution. Picking out a key stroke error is not a
contribution.

I saw only a head up an a.s, I missed the tongue in cheek part. Sorry.
DCA - 04 Jun 2008 10:58 GMT
>>>>>> A great example of poor spelling above:
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> I saw only a head up an a.s, I missed the tongue in cheek part. Sorry.

Ah - challenging (not moaning) top posting in line with ng charters is
perfectly reasonable and I shall continue to do this.
It is not only rude, but makes difficult reading (for some ng readers)
when people can't be bothered to follow proper protocol. It is common
courtesy too.

Apology appreciated. The humour clue was in the 'LOL' and in the mere
irony of suggesting credibility in adverts can be in part assessed by
spelling errors, in a post that contained same!
A keystroke? if you mean a typo then I don't think so - keys not adjacent!
Ho hum
Jeff Strickland - 04 Jun 2008 20:19 GMT
Nobody cares.

> Ah - challenging (not moaning) top posting in line with ng charters is
> perfectly reasonable and I shall continue to do this.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> A keystroke? if you mean a typo then I don't think so - keys not adjacent!
> Ho hum
DCA - 04 Jun 2008 20:38 GMT
> Nobody cares.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> adjacent!
>> Ho hum

Oh dear - I have been discussing with a complete idiot who thinks he
speaks for 'his' newsgroup <laughs>
Top posting DOES bother people - you do not speak for everyone.
Your opinion and parameters for my contributions into 'your club' are
just the rambles of a fool
You just carry on fella! What a cock!
JRE - 05 Jun 2008 01:04 GMT
Yawn.

>> Nobody cares.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> just the rambles of a fool
> You just carry on fella! What a cock!

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DCA - 05 Jun 2008 09:09 GMT
> Yawn.
anther intelligent contribution a US idiot!
pltrgyst - 05 Jun 2008 14:16 GMT
>> Yawn.
>anther intelligent contribution a US idiot!

Ooohhh -- irony!

-- Larry
Jeff Strickland - 05 Jun 2008 18:43 GMT
You are yet to make any contribution that remotely approaches intelligent.
DCA - 06 Jun 2008 10:07 GMT
> You are yet to make any contribution that remotely approaches
> intelligent.

looking back - yours are lacking too.
hsg@h-gee.co.uk - 06 Jun 2008 22:26 GMT
>> Nobody cares.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>just the rambles of a fool
>You just carry on fella! What a cock!

So you have seen his cock?

And top posting - who cares?  I don't
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The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen
hsg@h-gee.co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

dizzy - 08 Jun 2008 19:25 GMT
>I saw only a head up an a.s,

And it was your own.

Tell us what you think about evolution, how it's all bunk, Jeffy.
RJD - 28 May 2008 00:00 GMT
>Thinking of buying a used Z3.
>Are there good years and bad years?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Milo

Been the owner of the Z3 since it was new in 99 and its a fun car. As
the years went by the engines got bigger so if speed is your thing go
for the bigger engines. There is a sub-frame issue but you can check
for signs of trouble by pulling the carpet from the bottom of the
trunk and look for broken spot welds on the left hand side of the
floorpan close to the front of the trunk floor. If they are broken go
find another candidate.  

Manual is more fun than automatic if you don;t have to drive in heavy
stop-and-fo traffic.

RJD
dave.leader@gmail.com - 28 May 2008 17:24 GMT
Good luck Milo - you'll love the Z3!

I have successfully purchased 4 cars on eBay and there are still
plenty of Z3s listed.  Check the seller's previous ratings.  Do a lot
of communications via email (if possible) or eBay email.  See if the
seller will provide his / her phone number.  It sure relieves a lot of
concern to talk with the seller.  Study the pictures posted
carefully.  Save them on your PC and blow them up looking for body
flaws or too large gaps in the sheet metal (possible accident
damage).  I have not regretted any of my eBay auto purchases.

I purchased my 2001 Z3 on eBay.  At the time I was doing a lot of stop
and go driving so I got an automatic.  Now I wish I had a stick, but
I'm still happy.  Of course if speed and power are your thing - get a
3.0 M series.  Also, there are a lot of after market add-ons if speed
is your delight.

My Z has been very dependable.  It doesn't appear to have ever been
garaged (I don't have a garage) and the top shows it.  I will need a
new top in a year or so.  The plastic window was totally fogged and
had a dark line across the center when I purchased it.  Mequirer's (or
whichever your favorite brand) plastic cleaner made it (almost)
perfectly clear.  The center line still shows, but it is hardly
noticeable.

I suggest you read the forums / groups on the car to help make your
decision.  If you ask the same question at

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/z3rides/  you will get a lot of
support and answers.

Check out the Z3 forums by signing up at bimmerforums.com

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/

Regards,

Dave
 
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