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530i vs. 540i

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SLGreg - 24 Jul 2008 03:40 GMT
I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
100K miles for $10-12K. Probably a Sport Pkg w/Steptronic.

I have a Z3 and my BMW-only mechanic says go w/the 530i, but my heart
says V8.  Maintenance/nightmare diffs?  What about MPG diffs.  I'd be
interested in hearing the pros/cons of both.

Thanks in advance.
Pete - 24 Jul 2008 03:53 GMT
"SLGreg" <SLGreg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
> 100K miles for $10-12K. Probably a Sport Pkg w/Steptronic.
>
> I have a Z3 and my BMW-only mechanic says go w/the 530i, but my heart
> says V8.  Maintenance/nightmare diffs?  What about MPG diffs.  I'd be
> interested in hearing the pros/cons of both.

Are you in the US?  If so, there was no 530i in 2000.  They started
arriving here as a 2001 model year.

As for the 530i vs 540i... well, you already have a fun to drive car
(Z3), and I don't think either of these e39 models will be as fun.  The
530i is slightly lighter/nimble and has a more responsive steering (R&P
vs. the recirculating ball on the 540i).  The 540i will obviously be
quicker though.  As for mpg, if you take it easy on the hwy, both will
deliver about the same fuel economy.  Around town, the 540i will be
worse though.

In terms of maintenance, the 540i will be slightly more expensive to
maintain - more sparkplugs to replace for example, more engine oil, etc.
But the difference is not big enough to base your purchase decision on
it.  The cooling system on the 540i is more prone to failure, but again,
the 530i isn't immune from such failures either and should be replaced
every 60-80k miles regardless.

Pete
SLGreg - 24 Jul 2008 14:10 GMT
>"SLGreg" <SLGreg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
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>Are you in the US?  If so, there was no 530i in 2000.  They started
>arriving here as a 2001 model year.

Yes, you're right.  Sorry. 528i's are in the running, also. How are
they compared to the 3.0?  Much difference?  There are lots more 2.8's
available at my price point.

>As for the 530i vs 540i... well, you already have a fun to drive car
>(Z3), and I don't think either of these e39 models will be as fun.

I'll keep the Z3 for the fun factor, dump my gas-sucking Hemi Grand
Cherokee, and get a 5-series for the rest.

>530i is slightly lighter/nimble and has a more responsive steering (R&P
>vs. the recirculating ball on the 540i).

Good point, thanks. I think I'm leaning toward the 6 banger, all
considered.

>The cooling system on the 540i is more prone to failure, but again,
>the 530i isn't immune from such failures either and should be replaced
>every 60-80k miles regardless.

I've heard that before. What exactly fails? Radiator core, water pump?
Thanks for your input.
Dr Dolittle - 24 Jul 2008 14:32 GMT
>>"SLGreg" <SLGreg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> I've heard that before. What exactly fails? Radiator core, water pump?
> Thanks for your input.

yesterday I chopped in my 528i touring for a 540i touring ...

the 528 had 140k mile on it.  Interestingly the cooling system failed due to
a cracked (plastic) thermostat housing (£10 to replace)
the 540 has 80k miles on it and the alternator expired on the way home (£185
to replace ...)

The I6 cyl 2.8 is a beautifully smoooooth engine and sounds lovely for its
195 bhp
The V8 cyl 4.4 is also a beautifully smooth engine and sounds even lovelier
for its 275 bhp (and 410Nm !!!!!!)

no contest for me I'm afraid ... the 2.8 will leave you wanting more ... the
4.4 will leave most things standing  ;-)

Dr D
R. Mark Clayton - 24 Jul 2008 12:44 GMT
Well get a 535i V8 then (if it was sold in the USA).

> I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
> 100K miles for $10-12K. Probably a Sport Pkg w/Steptronic.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.
Pete - 24 Jul 2008 12:51 GMT
> Well get a 535i V8 then (if it was sold in the USA).

It wasn't.

Pete
Dave Plowman (News) - 24 Jul 2008 14:26 GMT
> Well get a 535i V8 then (if it was sold in the USA).

Which is slower and more thirsty than the 530.

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R. Mark Clayton - 24 Jul 2008 19:33 GMT
>> Well get a 535i V8 then (if it was sold in the USA).
>
> Which is slower

Odd as there is more power and more torque...

> and more thirsty than the 530.

not odd.
Dave Plowman (News) - 24 Jul 2008 19:39 GMT
> >> Well get a 535i V8 then (if it was sold in the USA).
> >
> > Which is slower

> Odd as there is more power and more torque...

And more weight.

> > and more thirsty than the 530.

> not odd.

That's why it's no longer made.

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Black - 24 Jul 2008 23:14 GMT
>I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
>100K miles for $10-12K. Probably a Sport Pkg w/Steptronic.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Thanks in advance.

530, and 540 e39? Good question... 2 entirely different animals.  The
540 is definitely a beast, thought does not have the beautifully
precise steering as the Rack-and-Pinion setup 530.

I have owned a '99 528iA, and currently an '03 model 530iA.  Again,
the 530 drives excellent, and has excellent body composure through
different driving conditions.

I will say this though, I have driven many 540, both auto. trans., and
my friend's 2 different 540i 6-speed manual, and the difference for me
at least, is somewhat difficult to describe even.  You must test
drive, it's the only way!

I have also drive a manual 530 w/ Sport package, brand new at the
dealer, and it was definitely what I thought to be one of the best
all-round cars ever built.
John Carrier - 25 Jul 2008 14:30 GMT
> I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
> 100K miles for $10-12K. Probably a Sport Pkg w/Steptronic.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.

Performance.  The 540 has significantly more grunt (1/4 mile around 14.0
versus 15.2, 0-60 in 6 seconds vice 7).  Do you exercise your right foot
often?  Doesn't make much sense if you spend most days in urban gridlock.
The 530 is the more nimble of the two, the 540 is a couple hundred pounds
heavier (guess where the weight is concentrated).

Cost of ownership.  The V-8 tends to go through its "consumables" a bit
faster.  More early cooling system failures (the I-6 is not immune), extra
weight will require brake work a bit more frequently.  Fuel costs will vary.
The V-8 gets surprisingly good mileage in freeway cruising ... figure 28-30
mpg in either car at "10 over" which is about it if you want to avoid a
collection of speeding tickets (Virginia is particularly draconian in their
pursuit of revenue at the expense of those of us who prefer pace and
mobility over PC).  Around town, the V-8 is mid-teens vice mid-twenties.

Just finished a 2,000 mile road trip in my 530i SP/5sp.  Almost exactly
30mpg on freeways, 27mpg in urban/suburban/gridlock environment of
Washington DC.  Never encountered a driving situation that inspired V-8
envy; though when I was moving down I-95 at a stop/roll/stop crawl, I had a
bit of auto trans envy.

Drive 'em both.  Blue books are similar.  In a seven-year-old car, I'd be
more interested in its maintenance history.  I'd look for an enthusiast's
car that was maintained in excess of the BMW schedule (in which maintenance
schedules were doubled to minimize the cost of "free" maintenance for 3
years/36,000 miles on the 2001's.  4/50K for 2002/3).  A recent,
preventative radiator/thermostat R&R would be a plus.  A recent Inspection 1
or 2 would be a plus (expensive unless you DIY).  New brakes a plus ($400+
for parts, labor at prevailing rate).  Fluid changes a plus (particularly
the auto trans ... it was called "lifetime" in 2001, now 100K change
interval, should be 50K).

Have fun!

R / John
SLGreg - 25 Jul 2008 15:28 GMT
>> I'm having a hard time deciding.  I'm looking at 2000-2001's w/about
>> 100K miles for $10-12K. Probably a Sport Pkg w/Steptronic.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
>R / John

You guys are awesome. I'm getting up to speed quickly w/all your
input. Thanks mucho.  Found a loaded, one owner 530i from a Mill
Valley (think high end SF North Bay Area) retired doctor for sale on
craigslist's yesterday, but POOF it was sold.  The good ones go
quickly.

I've have decided; however, if I'm crazy enough to go w/a 540i, it's
gonna be a stick. If I'm gonna get 14MPG around town, I want it to go
sideways when I pop second gear.

- greg
Pete - 26 Jul 2008 02:18 GMT
> Just finished a 2,000 mile road trip in my 530i SP/5sp.  Almost
> exactly 30mpg on freeways,

Yup, that's what my 530i manual gets on the hwy as well.  But in town,
driving short distances, I usually get worse than 20 mpg.

Pete
John Carrier - 26 Jul 2008 04:02 GMT
>> Just finished a 2,000 mile road trip in my 530i SP/5sp.  Almost exactly
>> 30mpg on freeways,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Pete

Maybe I just don't enjoy true urban sprawl.  I still usually see 24-25, but
I have to admit I've never had to endure city life for an entire tankfull
:-).

R / John
 
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