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Car Forum / BMW Cars / July 2008

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The problem with anti-lock brakes...

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Ivan Marsh - 25 Jul 2008 16:16 GMT
The guy behind you doesn't have them... and he's talking on his cell phone
and fiddling with his radio at the same time.

I have a scratch on my rear bumper now.

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Jeff Strickland - 25 Jul 2008 18:42 GMT
Don't blame the brakes from yesteryear for the idiot that is not paying
attention.

ABS does not solve inattentiveness, and a moron on the phone is likely to
scratch the bumper regardless of him having ABS or not.

> The guy behind you doesn't have them... and he's talking on his cell phone
> and fiddling with his radio at the same time.
>
> I have a scratch on my rear bumper now.
Ivan Marsh - 25 Jul 2008 18:48 GMT
>> The guy behind you doesn't have them... and he's talking on his cell
>> phone and fiddling with his radio at the same time.
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> ABS does not solve inattentiveness, and a moron on the phone is likely
> to scratch the bumper regardless of him having ABS or not.

Really?

Sorry if I displayed a sense of humor about it.

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R. Mark Clayton - 25 Jul 2008 23:46 GMT
>>> The guy behind you doesn't have them... and he's talking on his cell
>>> phone and fiddling with his radio at the same time.
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>> Don't blame the brakes from yesteryear for the idiot that is not paying
>> attention.

About 20 years ago I lightly touched the rear of an Orion on the M1 after I
was distracted by a warning light (low petrol!) despite ABS*.  I was so
embarrased I paid for it myself rather than claim on the insurance.  Mostly
light clusters on his and IIC a bumper insert, but a whole load of headlamp
wipers etc. on mine.

>> ABS does not solve inattentiveness, and a moron on the phone is likely
>> to scratch the bumper regardless of him having ABS or not.
>
> Really?
>
> Sorry if I displayed a sense of humor about it.

More than I would in the circumstances.

* "you canna change the laws of physics" McCoy.
Scott Dorsey - 25 Jul 2008 18:54 GMT
>Don't blame the brakes from yesteryear for the idiot that is not paying
>attention.
>
>ABS does not solve inattentiveness, and a moron on the phone is likely to
>scratch the bumper regardless of him having ABS or not.

A couple years ago, I was rear-ended by a woman who had ABS.  She did not
actually apply her foot to the brake when approaching the red light,
and the vehicles that were stopped at the red light were in her way.  If
the brake pedal is never pressed, ABS is not effective.

The woman in question was applying her makeup in the rear view mirror
and smeared it badly during the accident.  She refused to come out of
the vehicle for the police officer until she had removed all of her
smeared makeup, put new foundation on, and completely made-up again.
I gather she probably did not fare well in court.
--scott

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