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Car Forum / BMW Cars / August 2008One month for an oil change appointment
Today I phoned my local BMW agent for an oil change on my X 5. I put less than 5K miles a year, I do an extra oil change (before the inspection lights come on). The earliest date they could give me in September 28, that is more than a month away...I realize oil change is not an urgent repair, but one month is a little long to wait? What are the experiences of this group? george I am pushing a 528i 2000 series down the highway ... using synthetic oil of course. My factory trained teck has me come in every 5K miles or 6 months which ever comes first. Waiting a bit of time is not a problem for you especially since you do not drive it all that much and you have rather good lubrication the crankcase, it is one of the reasons why you have such good gas mileage. Synthetic in the transmission and rear end ... with a BMW puter moving the cylinders it sets to idle speeds the engine RPM and slips the transmission out of the drive train at 80 mph if the road conditions allow (down hill). It is a little more pricy then a standard oil change given the quality of the products you have to use ... but I think they pay for themselves in mileage. It is easy for me to get 40 mpg highway. Can't wait for the infinity gear transmission to come out. BMW leaders on that one as well. >I am pushing a 528i 2000 series down the highway ... using synthetic oil of > course. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > mileage. It is easy for me to get 40 mpg highway. Can't wait for the > infinity gear transmission to come out. BMW leaders on that one as well. An E39 528i that pulls 40mpg is non-existent (unless you count only downhill runs ... there are some mountain descents that can probably yield 60 mpg), but enjoy your delusion. The transmission is never out of the drivetrain unless you put it there, but the coast down capability of the auto trans and the ECU will do remarkable things and can actually improve upon idle + out of gear. R / John > An E39 528i that pulls 40mpg is non-existent (unless you count only downhill > runs ... there are some mountain descents that can probably yield 60 mpg), it also does it at 35 mph in fifth gear ... just idle at that speed once it is established for as long as the terrain cooperates being flat. otherwise the 528i as you know can really suck gas with all those expensive race car parts in it .. which is how it provides the gas milage ... better technology. >> An E39 528i that pulls 40mpg is non-existent (unless you count only downhill >> runs ... there are some mountain descents that can probably yield 60 mpg), [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >parts in it .. which is how it provides the gas milage ... better >technology. Do you believe your own bullshit? Sorry, no 40MPG for you. >>> An E39 528i that pulls 40mpg is non-existent (unless you count only downhill >>> runs ... there are some mountain descents that can probably yield 60 mpg), [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sorry, no 40MPG for you. I used to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, a Flat Earth and a Jealous God the Father who makes babies with His daughters and manifest as talking fire, smoke, serpent staff, insects, pestilence, bog creatures, darklight, and mass casuality child killing airs. Lord of the Flys are who they pray to these Grim Pills. I grew up and have no beliefs now ... waste of time. >I used to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, a Flat Earth and a >Jealous God the Father who makes babies with His daughters and manifest as [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I grew up and have no beliefs now ... waste of time. Oh oh. Jeffy Strickland will happily tell you how you will burn in hell. 8) Did you know that he *actually* believes that the Earth is, like, 10,000 years old? >> Lord of the Flys are who they pray to these Grim Pills. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > hell. 8) Did you know that he *actually* believes that the Earth is, > like, 10,000 years old? poor fella is stuck in his toddler tantrum from poor parenting. belts, spoons, hairbrushes, blood, judgment, expectation, justification, invalidation, magical thinking will do it every time. Jeffy will kill me like the Mormon Jesus would kill me. He is winning the culture war you know. My neighbor just called the cops and made a criminal complaint for a "CPS Terrorist Threat". In California to leave a scary phone message as evidence can have the cops arrest you for a felony terror threat in having someone 'scared' of a threat. Soooooo in a converation I told my neighbor that if he and his wife ever abandoned his kids in a locked room (door knob on backwards) while they were away doing business ... I was going to call CPS (Child Protection Services) and the Sherriff for them to come down and witness how they take care of their children. When the cops came to my house, I repeated the Terror Threat, that I would call CPS in the event of witnessing Child Abuse ... and offered my hands up to be handcuffed. Make an appointment with the DA, a Judge and a Jury and have my neighbors on the witness stand about how I want to CPS terror threat them. The cop ... let me go ... did not take me up on my offer, and said he has to talk to the Mrs Neighbor Lady again. They hate me, they are bible thumpers, they are not fit to raise children. Mr Neighbor Man tassed a steel ladder over the fence two nights ago. I had the cops there, mentioned the Sonoma County Gang Task Force arrest Mr Neighbor Man has for "impeding the proper conduct of police business" .. he apparently got in the face of a cop one night. I said I would witness for the Sonoma Sheriff Dept on this case in going to Motive and going to Behaviour as this guy is a hot head, and the cop arrest was a good one, and send this to a conviction. No reply from the cops yet ... but they are looking into the Jesus freak and his wife now. She is a nurse ... Jonestown ready. I pitty people like that ... such a horrible childhood to become that way. sumbuddie wear blind sea :) > It is a little more pricy then a standard oil change given the quality of > the products you have to use ... but I think they pay for themselves in > mileage. It is easy for me to get 40 mpg highway. Can't wait for the > infinity gear transmission to come out. BMW leaders on that one as well. The best I've ever seen on my 528 was 37 when acting as 'tender' car to a '50 LandRover along a pretty deserted motorway early one Sunday morning at no more than 50 mph. That was the average for the whole journey. An instantaneous reading means nothing.  SignatureSmall asylum seeker wanted as mud flap, must be flexible and willing to travel Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. In article <C4D092F0.84F%alanb@sonic.net>, > It is a little more pricy then a standard oil change given the quality of > the products you have to use ... but I think they pay for themselves in > mileage. It is easy for me to get 40 mpg highway. Can't wait for the > infinity gear transmission to come out. BMW leaders on that one as well. Much as I am a fan of BMW, the Dutch were using CVTs in cars in the fifties and they were available as an option in the Subaru Justy in the eighties. It's not a new technology... in fact, Leonardo da Vinci invented the whole conical-gear-with-follower concept. --scott Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." > In article <C4D092F0.84F%alanb@sonic.net>, > > Alan B. Mac Farlane <alanb@sonic.net> wrote: It is a little more > > pricy then a standard oil change given the quality of the products you > > have to use ... but I think they pay for themselves in mileage. It is > > easy for me to get 40 mpg highway. Can't wait for the infinity gear > > transmission to come out. BMW leaders on that one as well. > Much as I am a fan of BMW, the Dutch were using CVTs in cars in the > fifties and they were available as an option in the Subaru Justy in the > eighties. More recently that than that in the UK - the Ford Focus had one until recently. Which wasn't reliable. And was replaced by a conventional auto. Like near any rubber band drive it's fine if it can be easily changed - same as cambelts once were. But make it difficult as it likely is on any transmission and it is a time bomb just waiting to go off. > It's not a new technology... in fact, Leonardo da Vinci invented the > whole conical-gear-with-follower concept. --scott Nothing new under the sun. As they say. Signature*Re-elect nobody Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. in article f008f105-5e10-45cf-9bfe-250e2996ba92@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, gw at wgamini@gmail.com wrote on 8/19/08 2:13 PM: > I realize oil change is > not an urgent repair, but one month is a little long to wait? oh .... early up your next schedule. Call when you have about 300 miles left on the odometer reading ... and about 14 days in advance of when you would like to do it for economic reasons. They will be happy to schedule on a day when there is less rush of it for them and can put you in more comfortably for them. You have to work with more lead time ... but having to wait for an oil change ... when you might have a long trip in the future and have to put off for care of your investment. This is an itch to be avoided if you can ... and early up you schedule with them allows for that. IMO and all that rot !!! sumbuddie wear blind sea > I realize oil change is > not an urgent repair, but one month is a little long to wait? > > What are the experiences of this group? 1 month is excessive. I've never had to wait longer than a week to schedule an appointment for any kind of service. Most often all it takes is a couple of days, the maximum has been 1 week. Anoop > Today I phoned my local BMW agent for an oil change on my X 5. I put > less than 5K miles a year, I do an extra oil change (before the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > george The BMW service interval on a 528 will illuminate between 15-17K depending on driving (based purely on gasoline consumed). 5 to 7.5K is better and if you drive as little as you do, BMW recommends every year in any case. A month's delay on 5K oil is not going to hurt a thing. R / John > The BMW service interval on a 528 will illuminate between 15-17K > depending on driving (based purely on gasoline consumed). 5 to 7.5K is > better Why is it better? And why half the mileage and not 1/4? Every 1000 miles? Many have had their oil analyzed at the recommended change time and found it still fit for further use. I've yet to read of anyone finding it actually needs changing at half the recommended mileage. And decent oil - the recommended stuff - is hardly cheap these days.; Signature*My designated driver drove me to drink Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> The BMW service interval on a 528 will illuminate between 15-17K >> depending on driving (based purely on gasoline consumed). 5 to 7.5K is >> better > > Why is it better? And why half the mileage and not 1/4? Every 1000 miles? Anecdotal evidence (lots of sludge buildup in cars serviced on the light) and the recommendations of BWMCCA's tech advice guy. > Many have had their oil analyzed at the recommended change time and found > it still fit for further use. I've yet to read of anyone finding it > actually needs changing at half the recommended mileage. And decent oil - > the recommended stuff - is hardly cheap these days.; I haven't priced Mobil 1 for about six months (with oil $100 - $150 bbl), but my last 7 quarts (6.9 to be precise) about $35 when purchased in the 1.25 gallon jug. Another $10 for the filter and $3 for the lift fee. Full underside inspection while she's up. Not so bad. Your cost may vary. R / John OBTW, I can see 35+ on slow runs in 5th. But typical on the road is more like 75-80 and the 530 gives between 29.5 to 31 mpg under those conditions. > >> The BMW service interval on a 528 will illuminate between 15-17K > >> depending on driving (based purely on gasoline consumed). 5 to 7.5K is > >> better > > > > Why is it better? And why half the mileage and not 1/4? Every 1000 > > miles? > Anecdotal evidence (lots of sludge buildup in cars serviced on the > light) Sludge build up indicates other problems - like poor crankcase ventilation or lots of very short journeys. > and the recommendations of BWMCCA's tech advice guy. The only advice I'd follow would be concrete evidence of early engine wear or failure if the recommended intervals are observed. > > Many have had their oil analyzed at the recommended change time and > > found it still fit for further use. I've yet to read of anyone finding > > it actually needs changing at half the recommended mileage. And decent > > oil - the recommended stuff - is hardly cheap these days.; > I haven't priced Mobil 1 for about six months (with oil $100 - $150 > bbl), but my last 7 quarts (6.9 to be precise) about $35 when purchased > in the 1.25 gallon jug. Another $10 for the filter and $3 for the lift > fee. Full underside inspection while she's up. Not so bad. Your cost > may vary. The correct oil is about 15 gbp a litre here. Of course if you're not using that early changes could be a good idea. > R / John > OBTW, I can see 35+ on slow runs in 5th. But typical on the road is > more like 75-80 and the 530 gives between 29.5 to 31 mpg under those > conditions. My findings too - 32 mpg is what I get on a long run at normal motorway speeds. Signature*I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> I haven't priced Mobil 1 for about six months (with oil $100 - $150 >> bbl), but my last 7 quarts (6.9 to be precise) about $35 when purchased [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The correct oil is about 15 gbp a litre here. Of course if you're not > using that early changes could be a good idea. Mobil 1 synthetic is on the approved list. Depending upon the market for the day, BMW's own oil can run the same, a bit more or a bit less. A check with BAVauto just now (most expensive mail order) is $7.95/Qt. Even the boutique synthetics (redline, amsoil, royal purple, etc) don't cost what you're paying. R / John >Today I phoned my local BMW agent for an oil change on my X 5. I put >less than 5K miles a year, I do an extra oil change (before the >inspection lights come on). The earliest date they could give me in >September 28, that is more than a month away...I realize oil change is >not an urgent repair, but one month is a little long to wait? So go buy a filter and some oil. The X5 has enough clearance you can probably just do it on the curb without even putting it up on ramps. >What are the experiences of this group? You can change your own oil in ten minutes flat, and when you do it yourself you know that the oil and filter really HAVE been changed, and you don't have to wait for a month for an appointment or pay some crazy fee. Try it, it's a lot less work than making the appointment and waiting for the mechanic to get around to it. --scott Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." >>Today I phoned my local BMW agent for an oil change on my X 5. I put >>less than 5K miles a year, I do an extra oil change (before the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > and waiting for the mechanic to get around to it. > --scott When doing an oil change on my E90 320D (I don't agree with an oil change every two years either), I found that only 5 of the 5.5 litres of oil actually came out of the sump. Yes, the car was level, and left for an hour to fully drain. The dipstick had indicated that the oil level - before any was removed - had been at the max, but the shape of the sump did not allow full draining of the old oil. I added new oil until it looked like clean oil coming out of the sump. What a waste. Stupid design. What's the betting that when the car is taken to the stealer, the mechanic doesn't do that and leaves 1/2 litre of old oil in there. This could be the reason so many dealer serviced cars are running with too much oil in the sump as the mechanic may not have removed all the old oil, but refilled with max quantity anyway, leaving too much in there. I know that some stealers actually 'suck' the oil out through the dipstick hole, leaving all the crap sediment in the sump anyway. Smart cars, I hear, do not have a sump plug. Very handy. David > >>Today I phoned my local BMW agent for an oil change on my X 5. >>...not an urgent repair, but one month is a little long to wait? Thanks for all the replies. I left a voice mail complaint with the service manager, previously I had spoken to appointment scheduler. BMW phoned me later in the afternoon saying they can get me in this Friday. Thanks also for the suggestions that I should do the oil change myself. I looked on the X5world website and it is not such a huge challenge. gw >Today I phoned my local BMW agent for an oil change on my X 5. I put >less than 5K miles a year, I do an extra oil change (before the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >george Why go to BMW? SignatureSir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen hsg@h-gee.co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK >Today I phoned my local BMW agent for an oil change on my X 5. I put >less than 5K miles a year, I do an extra oil change (before the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >What are the experiences of this group? I can get a next-day "first thing in the morning" oil change from my dealer when I call. |
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