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Car Forum / BMW Cars / September 2008

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Any opinions on the X5?

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Ivan Marsh - 18 Sep 2008 16:40 GMT
Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt sitting
in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking for a new
ride.

There's a 2001 4.4L X5 for sale. I haven't checked the Carfax report yet
but I was wondering what X5 owners have to say about them.

thx-

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R. Mark Clayton - 18 Sep 2008 18:22 GMT
> Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt sitting
> in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking for a new
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>
> thx-

As I have had 4off 735i, one 740i and driven a relatives X5 (but not owned
one), I would say that although the performance and internal space of the X5
are fine, you will probably find the drive disappointing - it's a great big
wallowy 4X4, although it still drives better than any US car I have ever
driven or even been in.  Thirsty too.
Ivan Marsh - 18 Sep 2008 18:40 GMT
>> Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt
>> sitting in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking
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> it's a great big wallowy 4X4, although it still drives better than any
> US car I have ever driven or even been in.  Thirsty too.

Unfortunately everything is most likely going to be a bit of a
disappointment compared to my 740.

Any troubles with mechanical/maintenance problems on the X5 that you know
of?

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R. Mark Clayton - 19 Sep 2008 02:11 GMT
>>> Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt
>>> sitting in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Unfortunately everything is most likely going to be a bit of a
> disappointment compared to my 740.

So why not get another one?

> Any troubles with mechanical/maintenance problems on the X5 that you know
> of?

Well its a 4x4 so lots of things to go wrong in the drivetrain.

It's NOT a Range Rover, so if you actually drive it over ploughed fields,
you will break it.

It really is thirsty (even compared with  740i with the same engine) and
with a lot more metal and the aerodynamics of a garden shed (a Range Rover
has the aerodynamics of a brick ****house).  You are going to notice this on
acceleration and high speed (except US).

It is not going to corner nearly as well as a 740, and if kerbed etc. is
much more likely to roll.

In short if you just drive up and down the freeway you are unlikely to
notice except at the pump and the machine shop, where your bills will be
higher...
Ivan Marsh - 19 Sep 2008 04:00 GMT
>>>> Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt
>>>> sitting in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> So why not get another one?

I'd love to, but I think the newer model BMWs look Japanese rather than
European (not to mention I can't afford a new model). Mine was a 2000,
had one previous owner... used as a fleet car to shuttle people to the
airport, had 68,000 miles on it and was pristine. I've never heard an
insurance appraiser sound more sad to total a car out.

It took me eight months to track it down and I'm driving a borrowed car
so I'm not going to have that option this time around.

I'd buy something else but I pretty much think any American car made
after 1972-74 is ugly as hell and I can't stand Japanese cars.

>> Any troubles with mechanical/maintenance problems on the X5 that you
>> know of?
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> It's NOT a Range Rover, so if you actually drive it over ploughed
> fields, you will break it.

I'm interested in the 4x4 more for the nasty snow and ice around here
rather than taking it trail blazing.

> It really is thirsty (even compared with  740i with the same engine) and
> with a lot more metal and the aerodynamics of a garden shed (a Range
> Rover has the aerodynamics of a brick ****house).  You are going to
> notice this on acceleration and high speed (except US).

That's not too much of a concern. I'm more into the smooth cruise than
being street racer guy.

> It is not going to corner nearly as well as a 740, and if kerbed etc. is
> much more likely to roll.

I drove a '72 Bronco for quite a while so that's pretty expected.

> In short if you just drive up and down the freeway you are unlikely to
> notice except at the pump and the machine shop, where your bills will be
> higher...

Cool. I've heard a lot of, what I consider BS, about the 7's being high
maintenance and didn't have any issues with it until someone decided to
drive a Ford Aerostar, literally, over the top of it.

I've heard some of the same things about the X5's that sound like they're
in the shop all the time. I just want to make sure I'm not thinking about
buying a money pit.

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Scott Dorsey - 19 Sep 2008 16:08 GMT
>>> Unfortunately everything is most likely going to be a bit of a
>>> disappointment compared to my 740.
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>airport, had 68,000 miles on it and was pristine. I've never heard an
>insurance appraiser sound more sad to total a car out.

So get an old used one.  They are out there.  And realize that just because
your car has been totalled by the insurance company doesn't mean it might
not still be repairable.  It just means the insurance company won't spend
the money to repair it.

The X5 is an SUV.  If you like SUVs, it might be a good vehicle for you.
Personally, I hate SUVs, and the X5 still drives like one.  It's like a
pig wallowing down the road when you get to the twisty parts.  It's probably
a lot better than other competing SUVs, but it's still an SUV.

Go look for a used 740.
--scott
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Ivan Marsh - 19 Sep 2008 17:21 GMT
>>>> Unfortunately everything is most likely going to be a bit of a
>>>> disappointment compared to my 740.
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> it might not still be repairable.  It just means the insurance company
> won't spend the money to repair it.

If you saw it you wouldn't question it being totaled out. Half the front
end is gone. The driver side doors are crushed together. The rear end is
smashed up. There's damage to the frame and possibly the engine.

The nearest 740 is over 100 miles away and I just don't have time to go
looking at cars that far away.

> The X5 is an SUV.  If you like SUVs, it might be a good vehicle for you.
> Personally, I hate SUVs, and the X5 still drives like one.  It's like a
> pig wallowing down the road when you get to the twisty parts.  It's
> probably a lot better than other competing SUVs, but it's still an SUV.

I wouldn't mind having a truck again.

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Jean-Yves - 19 Sep 2008 18:12 GMT
> >>I'd love to, but I think the newer model BMWs look Japanese rather than
> >>European (not to mention I can't afford a new model). Mine was a 2000,
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> The nearest 740 is over 100 miles away and I just don't have time to go
> looking at cars that far away.

why dont you look after a 5 series with awd ? 530x 540x ?
you will still have a comfortable car, and the 4 wheels drive for the
snow ?
I have a 330x and it's a real pleasure.
I also hate the suv: they eat too much !
not the right car to go pick up some bread...

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Floyd Rogers - 19 Sep 2008 19:05 GMT
> Ivan Marsh <ivanmarsh@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> The nearest 740 is over 100 miles away and I just don't have time to go
>> looking at cars that far away.
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> I also hate the suv: they eat too much !
> not the right car to go pick up some bread...

Ivan is almost certainly in the US where the AWD versions of the 5
series were not imported (we now have the 535xi - for $60K or more).

FloydR
Dean Dark - 19 Sep 2008 19:38 GMT
>> Ivan Marsh <ivanmarsh@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>Ivan is almost certainly in the US where the AWD versions of the 5
>series were not imported (we now have the 535xi - for $60K or more).

There's also the 528xi in the US.
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bfd - 19 Sep 2008 17:58 GMT
> >> Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt
> >> sitting in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Any troubles with mechanical/maintenance problems on the X5 that you know
> of?

According to Mike Miller, Roundel's tech talk editor, one problem you
should check for is the tailgate. Supposedly as it ages, the tailgate
will begin to rattle. Further, the electrical cord that attaches to
the gate can/will break and cause electrical problems with things like
rear defogger, brake/tail lights, etc.

I'm sure there's other specific issues, but the key is to find one
with complete service records and by all means, have it checked out by
a competent independent who KNOWS BMWs! Good Luck
Major Disaster - 19 Sep 2008 01:40 GMT
> Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt sitting
> in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking for a new
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> --
> I told you this was going to happen.

Check out www.x5world.com

Lots of info there.
Ivan Marsh - 19 Sep 2008 04:02 GMT
>> Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt
>> sitting in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Lots of info there.

Excellent, thanks.

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Black - 20 Sep 2008 21:14 GMT
>Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt sitting
>in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking for a new
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>thx-

You should test-drive a Range Rover Sport :)
R. Mark Clayton - 21 Sep 2008 11:28 GMT
>>Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt sitting
>>in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking for a new
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> You should test-drive a Range Rover Sport :)

X5 - all the aerodynamics of a garden shed.

RRS - all the aerodynamics of a brick ****house, and most of the weight too.
Can drive over ploughed fields without damage (but then so can a Russian
tractor).
Major Disaster - 21 Sep 2008 21:49 GMT
On Sep 21, 6:28 am, "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclay...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> >>Now that my 740IL has officially been laid to rest and is no doubt sitting
> >>in a warehouse in a square foot cube it's time to start looking for a new
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> Can drive over ploughed fields without damage (but then so can a Russian
> tractor).

You forgot to add,

"...when it's not stuck in the dealer's repair bay."
Jean-Yves - 22 Sep 2008 07:15 GMT
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<06bf5d55-bd00-4d60-99f6-8e6798b6fa08@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,

> On Sep 21, 6:28 am, "R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclay...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
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>
> "...when it's not stuck in the dealer's repair bay."

+1 ...:)
a friend of mine had a new one that went 3 times to the dealer for the
engine exchange...
(the RRS not the x5 !)

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