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e30 325I

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Donovan Colbert - 05 Nov 2003 20:02 GMT
I've got a weird question I was hoping someone here could answer.

What is the theoretical top speed of a completely stock e30 325I with a
Barvarian Autosports chip that removes the top-end governor? We're talking
stock gearing, stock 14" rims, stock intake and exhaust. If you had a long,
smooth, straight road, what is the top end of the e30 engine with the
governor removed?
Bob - 06 Nov 2003 01:09 GMT
> I've got a weird question I was hoping someone here could answer.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> smooth, straight road, what is the top end of the e30 engine with the
> governor removed?

Well, let's see.  Tires roughly 24 inches diameter, max rpm around 6500,
final drive ratio about 2.5:1 ... ...
2600x24xpi=196035 in/min.  /12 /60 = 272 mph.
You did say "theoretical" did'nt you?
Donovan Colbert - 06 Nov 2003 06:35 GMT
Oh... I forgot... I'm talking about the convertible, not the coupe or sedan!

:)

But, thank you, Bob. That information really illustrates my point,
nicely...

> > I've got a weird question I was hoping someone here could answer.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> 2600x24xpi=196035 in/min.  /12 /60 = 272 mph.
> You did say "theoretical" did'nt you?
Frank Kemper - 08 Nov 2003 14:49 GMT
> Oh... I forgot... I'm talking about the convertible, not the coupe or
> sedan!

My E30 325i convertible automatic (german specs, no modifications, 15''
factory rims with 205/65 R tires, hardtop attached, redlines at approx. 220
kph (Speedometer shows about 230 then). Usually I do not reach that speed
in normal traffic,  but there is a part of the A9 Autobahn from Munich to
Nuremberg, where the road s wide and straight, and goes to a slight slope
down. There you can test such things. Without the slope my car reaches
approx 205 kph (Speedometer reads 215). It is almost impossible to get the
car to red line then.

Frank

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Leon - 19 Dec 2003 15:12 GMT
Interesting, what have you found is the best profile tyre size and shock
absorbers for best handling?
I've just replaced my shocks all 'round, and the handling suckz!! I have
195/65 R tyre size rear, and 195/55 R size front. (Pirelli)

> > Oh... I forgot... I'm talking about the convertible, not the coupe or
> > sedan!
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>
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Frank Kemper - 20 Dec 2003 01:02 GMT
"Leon" <leon@morolo.co.za> hat in Betrag news:To2dnb9b6oe8iH6iRVn-
sA@is.co.za dies gedichtet:

> Interesting, what have you found is the best profile tyre size and shock
> absorbers for best handling?

My car is equipped with BMW 15'' factory wheels and 205R55 tires, I chose
Firestone. The car came off the assembly line with the factory M technic
suspesison package, which lowers the body by approx. 15 mm. I did not like
that suspension, because I had problems with the ground clearance when
entering my garage ramp (garage is in the basement). After approx. 100.000
miles on the clock (bought the car at 50.000 miles) my mechanic told me
that the factory shocks were worn out. So I decided to have the ordinary
factory springs and Sachs gas shock absorbers installed. This makes the
suspension a little bit softer and gives me additional ground clearance. I
like the softer suspension, because the convertible body is not very stiff.

Frank

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joka - 14 Nov 2003 03:34 GMT
Since we are talking about theory you cannont drive on "smooth" road, you
need friction for picking up speed (of course anyone who lives in Minessotta
could have told you that). In fact, there's an optimum friction coefficient
on which "theoretically" you can drive forever without wearing your tires
EVER.

> I've got a weird question I was hoping someone here could answer.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> smooth, straight road, what is the top end of the e30 engine with the
> governor removed?
bmwdominican - 03 Jan 2006 19:20 GMT
how do you removed the top speed governor on a bmw 325is if there si any?
thank in advance.
Psycho - 03 Jan 2006 23:55 GMT
Slow down a bit boy racer... You'll live longer...

>how do you removed the top speed governor on a bmw 325is if there si any?
>thank in advance.
John Burns - 04 Jan 2006 11:29 GMT
> how do you removed the top speed governor on a bmw 325is if there si any?

Don't think there is one. There might be a rev limiter though, if there
is you'll need a new chip.

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Fred W - 04 Jan 2006 11:55 GMT
> how do you removed the top speed governor on a bmw 325is if there si any?
> thank in advance.

It's in the firmware.  You would need to re-chip the ECU

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Chris D'Agnolo - 07 Jan 2006 21:44 GMT
Just for grins, does anybody know what it's set at? Also, a rev limiter is a
different animal from a top speed governor.

Chris

>> how do you removed the top speed governor on a bmw 325is if there si any?
>> thank in advance.
>
> It's in the firmware.  You would need to re-chip the ECU
Psycho - 08 Jan 2006 04:15 GMT
If I recall correctly, the rev limiter will kick in a few hundred RPMs
over the redline on the tach. The top speed governor limits the car to
roughly 150 MPH. But of these limits are modified on most aftermarket
chips...

Rev limit on my son's 87 325is comes up quick when I'm burning through
1st gear... Damn gear is mighty short....

>Just for grins, does anybody know what it's set at? Also, a rev limiter is a
>different animal from a top speed governor.
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>>
>> It's in the firmware.  You would need to re-chip the ECU
Fred W - 09 Jan 2006 19:24 GMT
> Just for grins, does anybody know what it's set at? Also, a rev limiter is a
> different animal from a top speed governor.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>>It's in the firmware.  You would need to re-chip the ECU

I do not know what those limits are, but they are seperate and distinct.
 One limit for redline and one for max speed.

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Frank Kemper - 11 Jan 2006 20:25 GMT
Fred W <Malt_Hound@*spam-me-not*yahoo.com> haute in die Tasten:

> I do not know what those limits are, but they are seperate and
> distinct.
>   One limit for redline and one for max speed.

My '92 BMW 325iA Convertible German Spec. car definitely does not
have any sort of speed limiter. Accordng to the speedometer reading,
it reaches 212 kph on a straight road, which is approximately 202 kph
in reality. When going slightly downhill, I have reached more than
220 kph. If the 212 kph would have been limited by a limiter, the car
would not have gone faster downhill, I suppose.

Frank

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