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Factory specification on speedometer

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Court - 02 Apr 2004 04:51 GMT
How accurate is the speedometer supposed to be?  i.e. what is the factory
tolerance?  +/- 2 miles per hour, or 2% or what?  I drive my typical speed
and get passed like I'm standing still.
Robert W. Heyde, Jr. - 02 Apr 2004 06:05 GMT
My 1998 740IL is off by 5 miles an hour accross the  board.  BMW tells me
this is normal.
> How accurate is the speedometer supposed to be?  i.e. what is the factory
> tolerance?  +/- 2 miles per hour, or 2% or what?  I drive my typical speed
> and get passed like I'm standing still.
Randolph - 02 Apr 2004 06:55 GMT
This was mentioned in another thread some time in the past few days. The
factory spec is that the speedometer can show up to actual speed + 10%
+2.4 mph. Check http://ackthud.com/shawnfogg/pics/speed.jpg

> How accurate is the speedometer supposed to be?  i.e. what is the factory
> tolerance?  +/- 2 miles per hour, or 2% or what?  I drive my typical speed
> and get passed like I'm standing still.
Court - 02 Apr 2004 14:17 GMT
Thanks,

The Dealer said +/- 10% but this makes more sense.  I wonder why?  My Ford
is right on the money checked both by timing mile posts at 60 mph and via
GPS.

Court
> This was mentioned in another thread some time in the past few days. The
> factory spec is that the speedometer can show up to actual speed + 10%
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> > tolerance?  +/- 2 miles per hour, or 2% or what?  I drive my typical speed
> > and get passed like I'm standing still.
Randolph - 02 Apr 2004 18:50 GMT
For the speedo the be spot on is very unusual. Most places it is not
permitted for the speedo to read too low, so the manufacturers adjust
them to read a little bit on the high side. Does your Ford have the
original size tires? If the tires are larger than stock (or over
inflated) the speedo will read lower.

> Thanks,
>
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>
> Court
Court - 03 Apr 2004 01:30 GMT
My Ford, an Expedition, has original size tires.  Given an earlier post,
+10% +2.4mph would at 60 on the speedometer actually be 57.6 to 52.36mph.
The +10% means they expect that tires will reduce in diameter by 10% over
their life.  Assuming a tire is 24" in diameter that would equal 2.4".  I
doubt that the average tread depth on a car like the Z3 is 1.2".  More like
0.3 to 0.5".  I think this just allows them to put a wider range of tire
sizes on the car without making special adjustments to the speedometer.

Just so I know how fast I'm really going, I'm going to take my portable GPS
and take a run down the highway.

> For the speedo the be spot on is very unusual. Most places it is not
> permitted for the speedo to read too low, so the manufacturers adjust
> them to read a little bit on the high side. Does your Ford have the
> original size tires? If the tires are larger than stock (or over
> inflated) the speedo will read lower.
Randolph - 03 Apr 2004 03:06 GMT
> My Ford, an Expedition, has original size tires.  Given an earlier post,
> +10% +2.4mph would at 60 on the speedometer actually be 57.6 to 52.36mph.
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> 0.3 to 0.5".  I think this just allows them to put a wider range of tire
> sizes on the car without making special adjustments to the speedometer.

The speedo is not set to +10% +2.4 mph from the factory, those numbers
are for the maximum allowable error. Most people find that their
speedometers are quite a bit more accurate than that.
Dave Plowman - 03 Apr 2004 09:36 GMT
> The speedo is not set to +10% +2.4 mph from the factory, those numbers
> are for the maximum allowable error.

Tell me why in this day and age there should need to be this sort of
tolerance? Even in the days of mechanical devices - the old eddy current
types - many makers could easily better this.

BMW - and some other makers - use this 'legal' tolerance to *deliberately*
make their speedos over read. You can draw your own conclusions as to why.

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Dave Plowman - 02 Apr 2004 21:22 GMT
> The Dealer said +/- 10% but this makes more sense.

Don't think any speedo is designed to under read - it would break C&U regs
in many countries. Over reading by up to 10% is a common reg - but a
nonsense in these days of pulse counting devices. A cheap DVM will better
1% when measuring frequency, so apart from tyre wear there's no reason why
a speedo shouldn't be at least as good. So saying, the clock on my E39 is
rubbish as well, losing about 3 minutes per week.

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dizzy - 03 Apr 2004 04:13 GMT
>> The Dealer said +/- 10% but this makes more sense.
>
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>a speedo shouldn't be at least as good. So saying, the clock on my E39 is
>rubbish as well, losing about 3 minutes per week.

I love that word - rubbish.
Jeff Strickland - 02 Apr 2004 20:05 GMT
In my experience, the speedo is accurate within 2 mph at 85mph.

If I set the Cruise so the needle is dead nuts on 85, then reset the Speed
button on the OBC, the average speed the OBC displays settles in after a few
seconds to within 2mph of the indicated speed. The indicated speed is always
higher than the speed shown on the OBC.

> How accurate is the speedometer supposed to be?  i.e. what is the factory
> tolerance?  +/- 2 miles per hour, or 2% or what?  I drive my typical speed
> and get passed like I'm standing still.
 
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