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Car Forum / BMW Cars / April 2004

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Am I being ripped off?

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Michael Anthony - 03 Apr 2004 00:27 GMT
My 1988 E32 is emitting a knocking sound under low-speed acceleration like
the drive shaft center support bearing ($60) has finally worn out. My local
drive shaft specialist insists that damage to the center support bearing
indicates a deeper problem with the drive shaft, necessitating a complete
driveshaft replacement ($425 + $80 labor). He says that's a good deal
"because BMW charge $1000."

Am I being lied to?

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Michael A
dizzy - 03 Apr 2004 04:11 GMT
>My 1988 E32 is emitting a knocking sound under low-speed acceleration like
>the drive shaft center support bearing ($60) has finally worn out. My local
>drive shaft specialist insists that damage to the center support bearing
>indicates a deeper problem with the drive shaft, necessitating a complete
>driveshaft replacement ($425 + $80 labor). He says that's a good deal
>"because BMW charge $1000."

Hell, you're lucky if BMW changes your oil and rotates your tires for
much less than $1000...
Alex - 03 Apr 2004 05:53 GMT
No. My only question is how he knows its the driveshaft and not just the
center bearing.
Are you sure he is doing all of this for $80/ If so that is a good price. A
rebuilt driveshaft I think
is about $400.

> My 1988 E32 is emitting a knocking sound under low-speed acceleration like
> the drive shaft center support bearing ($60) has finally worn out. My local
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> Michael A
XpUser - 05 Apr 2004 13:46 GMT
After careful thought and consideration Michael Anthony typed:
> My 1988 E32 is emitting a knocking sound under low-speed acceleration
> like the drive shaft center support bearing ($60) has finally worn
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>
> Am I being lied to?

Sounds like you are being ripped of.  I had a problem with a heater matrix.
The garage would charge ?200 for a new heater matrix, but would only charge
for 1.5 hours labour.  I asked somebody else and they said to change the
heater matrix, is approx 4 - 5 hours, as you have to remove the dash to get
to it (my previous car, was not a BMW).

Took it to another garage, and he said that somebody had been at the heater
martix input pipe (accessable from under the hood) with a pair of pliers,
thus lossening the hose attachemnt and casuing the leak.

The reason why they charge a very small amount of labour, is because they
try to make out they are doing you a favour.  So you will go ahead with the
work. In my case he would havecharged for a heater matrix, which he would
not have replaced, and around ?60 for labour.  Thus making ?260 to
straighten a pipe, that he bent to start with.  All in all 2 mins work, and
he get ?260.

Since them l am always weary of "small" labour costs.  Vest thing to do is
get a second opinion - however dont tell the second garage about the first
garage.  Let him work it out himself.  It will give you more peace of mind.
KMS- Brett Anderson - 06 Apr 2004 06:42 GMT
> After careful thought and consideration Michael Anthony typed:
> > My 1988 E32 is emitting a knocking sound under low-speed acceleration
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> >
> > Am I being lied to?

How about some relevent info?  Primarily, mileage.

If you have over 80K miles, chances are very good that your universal joints
are binding.  That puts a lot of stress on the centre support.

Only way to tell for sure is to pull the driveshaft and check the joints by
hand.

Brett Anderson
KMS
www.bmw-stuff.com
 
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